September 21, 2021

EP. 123 — Confronting a Future without Roe v. Wade with Mary Ziegler

The right to an abortion has been in legal limbo in America for years. What does the passage of SB8 in Texas mean for abortion access in this country, and what is the future of Roe v. Wade? On the show this week to answer this question is Professor Mary Ziegler. You can check out her book, Abortion and the Law in America: Roe v. Wade to the Present, at


FACT-123-20210920-Ziegler-RCv02-DYN.mp3 Speaker 1 [00:00:22] Hello, and welcome to Factually. I’m Adam Conover, thank you so much for joining me once again. Let’s just jump right into it, because we have an important issue to talk about today. For my entire life, the Democratic Party has been saying that if Americans don’t vote for them then Roe vs. Wade is going to be overturned. That’s been their pitch for basically all of the decades that I’ve been on this Earth. ‘If you do not vote for Democrats then Roe versus Wade is going bye bye.’ Then it seemed like somewhat of an apocalyptic prediction: not impossible, but off in the misty future. Maybe it could happen one day, but that’s just what they’re saying to get everybody riled up. It didn’t seem super likely that a right that was bestowed by the Supreme Court could be overturned that easily, or that at least there were a lot of steps between us and that reality. But lately t

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