May 16, 2023
Reality TV scholars Anna Hossnieh & Molly Lambert (Deckheads: Chief Stews!) stop by TV Club to help Ashley highlight the must-see reality shows currently airing and to give an in-depth look at the current season of Below Deck: Sailing Yacht. If you’ve ever wondered “What exactly is Summer House?” or “Why hasn’t there been a gay Bachelor called the Bi-chelor?” or “Why are so many women on Below Deck horny for Gary?” then this episode is for you.
What We Watched:
Below Deck: Sailing Yacht
Summer House: Martha’s Vineyard
You, Me & My Ex
I Am Jazz
90 Day Fiancé: The Other Way
The Ultimatum: Queer Love
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S2E43 — Reality Check-In w/ Molly Lambert & Anna Hossnieh
[00:01:01] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Hello. It’s us.
[00:01:04] ASHLEY RAY: I’m so glad you’re here.
[00:01:05] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Thank you for having us.
[00:01:06] MOLLY LAMBERT: We are so excited.
[00:01:08] ASHLEY RAY: You, to me, are the experts on Below Deck. I actually got into it much later, and I notice that you, like, have the Twitch stream and stuff. And that’s when I was like, “Okay, this must be something good.”
[00:01:20] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I mean, it’s kind of the perfect show.
[00:01:23] ASHLEY RAY: That’s how I feel about it now.
[00:01:25] MOLLY LAMBERT: It’s like the most high stakes, low stakes reality television.
[00:01:29] ASHLEY RAY: And now there’s so many spin offs. We’re going to get to all of the Below Deck. First, we’re going to do a little reality TV watchlist. I’ve been watching a lot of reality TV. I’m really curious. Are there other reality shows you’re watching right now?
[00:01:42] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I watch everything.
[00:01:44] ASHLEY RAY: Okay. What’s his name?
[00:01:47] MOLLY LAMBERT: Anna watches literally everything. I watch mainly Vanderpump Rules. And we both watch Housewives.
[00:01:55] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Housewives, Summer House. Both Summer Houses now.
[00:01:58] ASHLEY RAY: So, Summer House–I don’t understand this one. What are they? Who are they?
[00:02:04] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Well, so, the original series is a bunch of New Yorkers. They rent a summer house and then every weekend they go to the summer house. And that’s basically the premise of the show.
[00:02:12] MOLLY LAMBERT: It’s a thing called a share house that I think is an East Coast thing that’s very strange to my mind, where they commute back into the city to work all week, every week.
[00:02:22] ASHLEY RAY: And on the weekends…
[00:02:22] MOLLY LAMBERT: Weekends, they go to the summer house, and they have to share it because nobody can afford it on their own. But it’s about a bunch of young yuppies getting incredibly wasted all the time.
[00:02:33] ASHLEY RAY: I mean, I’m into that. That’s kind of what got me with Below Deck. I was like, “Oh, these are just fun people on a boat drinking. And then sometimes they are in charge of people’s lives.”
[00:02:45] MOLLY LAMBERT: And they just introduced a second Summer House.
[00:02:47] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Summer House: Martha’s Vineyard.
[00:02:49] MOLLY LAMBERT: Summer House: Martha’s Vineyard.
[00:02:51] ANNA HOSSNIEH: All Black cast. It’s different than the original Summer House, which was an all-white cast for a very long time.
[00:02:57] ASHLEY RAY: I can believe that.
[00:02:58] ANNA HOSSNIEH: But I watched the first episode, and I’m in.
[00:03:01] ASHLEY RAY: Okay. I didn’t know Black people had a thing with Martha’s Vineyard.
[00:03:04] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I didn’t either. This is where I learned. Apparently, there’s a section of Martha’s Vineyard called Oak Bluffs or something like that. And that part is historically a place where Black people went to vacation.
[00:03:15] ASHLEY RAY: Wow.
[00:03:16] MOLLY LAMBERT: Summer House is, like…
[00:03:19] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Educational.
[00:03:20] MOLLY LAMBERT: Educational about, like, the East Coast is crazy. It’s like the East Coast is another planet that you learn things about.
[00:03:27] ASHLEY RAY: I love that, though.
[00:03:29] MOLLY LAMBERT: A Lobster boil? Okay.
[00:03:32] ASHLEY RAY: I love when I’m like, “Oh, I’m learning about a weird little culture.”
[00:03:35] MOLLY LAMBERT: It’s like a subculture, but it’s American WASP culture. So, it’s the biggest, most dominant subculture in the universe.
[00:03:42] ASHLEY RAY: I just really want to understand Connecticut.
[00:03:44] MOLLY LAMBERT: It’s truly an explainer of stuff like that–guys in salmon-colored pants and things.
[00:03:52] ANNA HOSSNIEH: They’ll be like, “These are my white pants.” And you’re like, “Oh, you’re, like, really proud of these white pants.”
[00:03:58] ASHLEY RAY: Are there a lot of Sperrys?
[00:04:01] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Dude, actually there’s a crossover. They’re not technically on deck. But they’re all wearing deck shoes.
[00:04:06] MOLLY LAMBERT: They dress as if they might go boating at any moment.
[00:04:09] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Exactly.
[00:04:10] ASHLEY RAY: You never know when they might go yachting.
[00:04:12] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Which is almost, like, a sick fascination because you’re like, “These people are nuts.”
[00:04:17] ASHLEY RAY: Anna, do you have another show?
[00:04:19] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Oh my God. Yeah, I watch all the Housewives, Summer House… Oh, there is a new one that just dropped on Bravo called Dancing Queens.
[00:04:27] ASHLEY RAY: I’ve been seeing previews for this
[00:04:29] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I watched the first episode, I’m in. I love it.
[00:04:32] ASHLEY RAY: So, I assumed this was like Dance Moms but focusing on adults who dance. Is that basically–?
[00:04:39] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yes.
[00:04:39] ASHLEY RAY: Okay.
[00:04:40] ANNA HOSSNIEH: It’s moms with sort of bored, rich husbands. And they, like, are very competitive ballroom dancers to a point where they hire a professional–a young, professional, sort of foreign, interesting guy who’s a professional dancer. And they pay him for, like, a year to be their dance partner to compete. And they pay up to six figures. They pay their hotels, food, everything, have this, like, companion–while their husband is at home with the kids–and are super into it, like, super competitive, and, like, cutthroat.
[00:05:14] MOLLY LAMBERT: Like pageants kind of?
[00:05:15] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yes, it has that energy because it’s like, “The clothes costs money, this costs money, that costs money, and if you’re not here to win, don’t go to the competition.” And you’re like, “Jeez, what if you were my mom?”
[00:05:25] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. Are there people with, like, long standing rivalries?
[00:05:29] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yes.
[00:05:29] ASHLEY RAY: Okay, okay, I’m in. I might be in on this.
[00:05:31] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I recommend it. I mean, the best part about reality shows–they find the perfect, like, kooky person, who’s, like, willing to be themselves on camera.
[00:05:40] MOLLY LAMBERT: Ashley, do you watch Vanderpump Rules?
[00:05:42] ASHLEY RAY: So, I don’t. I’ve started it, but I’m, like, very behind. People have said it doesn’t count because I’m on, like, Season Two. I don’t know anything about this, like, Tom Sandoval stuff.
[00:05:54] MOLLY LAMBERT: When someone told me to watch it the first time, I was like, “I would never watch that show. I can’t imagine caring about a bunch of dumb cater waiters in LA and what they do.” And then you’re like, “They’re just like us.” They’re young professionals trying to make it in Los Angeles in creative fields and, like, working shitty day jobs. But then it follows their lives for ten years.
[00:06:18] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Wow. Okay. See, I don’t think I realized it’s, like, the same cast of people.
[00:06:21] MOLLY LAMBERT: That’s what’s crazy. It gets insanely deep. And then I was trying to explain to somebody because they were like, “What’s satisfying about it?” And I was like, “You know how in a good prestige TV show you see people try to change, learn, grow, and then they just, like, can’t and don’t?” That’s what Vanderpump Rules is like. And it’s incredible. In this season there’s been this character–she’s a person–her name is Raquel. But…
[00:06:48] ANNA HOSSNIEH: She’s a character.
[00:06:49] MOLLY LAMBERT: A villain emerged. She’s the mistress.
[00:06:52] ASHLEY RAY: She’s the mistress. Okay. I picked up this from Twitter. Yeah.
[00:06:55] MOLLY LAMBERT: And her thing is that she’s an evil pageant girl.
[00:06:57] ASHLEY RAY: Oh my God.
[00:06:58] MOLLY LAMBERT: Because she was in pageants. She was allegedly Miss Sonoma. And then people looked into it and were like, “Some of the titles you can buy; you don’t actually win them.”
[00:07:12] ASHLEY RAY: Ohhh, that’s so embarrassing.
[00:07:15] MOLLY LAMBERT: It’s really fascinating because the whole thing this season was that she aged out of pageants.
[00:07:20] ANNA HOSSNIEH: You hate to see it.
[00:07:23] ASHLEY RAY: Tough time in a woman’s life when you age out of pageants.
[00:07:25] MOLLY LAMBERT: She was like, “Donald Trump said that women over the age of 27 can’t do Miss USA anymore.”
[00:07:32] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Is that an actual rule?
[00:07:34] MOLLY LAMBERT: Yes!
[00:07:34] ASHLEY RAY: Oh, wow.
[00:07:35] MOLLY LAMBERT: Yeah. That’s, like, the oldest a woman can be is 27.
[00:07:39] ASHLEY RAY: You can’t have anyone older than that representing America.
[00:07:41] ANNA HOSSNIEH: But you know what’s interesting? On Below Deck…? Was it regular? The one Captain Lee. There was a group of older women who were, like, pageant women. So, she could start competing in that, like, older…
[00:07:51] MOLLY LAMBERT: I was thinking maybe she could get into ballroom dancing. But she doesn’t get into anything, and she doesn’t pursue anything. She has a crisis because she’s too old for pageants. And then instead, she starts competing with all of the women on Vanderpump Rules who don’t know that they’re competing with her and keep trying to be friendly to her and bring her into the group. And she’s this absolute, like, type of psycho you meet who’s like a woman who just fights other women because she has to win. And so, people keep being like, “Yeah, it’s like she’s in a rom com, but nobody else knows that.”
[00:08:28] ANNA HOSSNIEH: She is in her own show.
[00:08:30] MOLLY LAMBERT: She is in her own show. Most people understand that you’re engaging in a type of war, but she doesn’t understand where the boundaries are at all. And everyone is like, “No, you’re just, like, destroying people’s lives.”
[00:08:42] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah. You’re just being a dick at this point.
[00:08:44] ASHLEY RAY: Okay. If I jump to this current season, will I understand what’s going on?
[00:08:50] MOLLY LAMBERT: She made somebody’s mom cry. Yeah, they provide, like, the back story.
[00:08:55] ASHLEY RAY: Like most reality shows where they’re like, “And here’s flashbacks to every single thing.”
[00:08:59] MOLLY LAMBERT: And then you’ll go back. But it’s also crazy because Raquel’s been on the show for many seasons already and was completely, like, a non-entity, like a non-character. She was somebody else’s girlfriend. She just seemed dumb.
[00:09:14] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I used to feel bad for her. She was in kind of a toxic relationship.
[00:09:18] MOLLY LAMBERT: She was in an abusive relationship. But then she got out and became, like, a completely insane person.
[00:09:26] ASHLEY RAY: Hurt people hurt people.
[00:09:27] MOLLY LAMBERT: Lala called her a “very dumb demon.”
[00:09:31] ANNA HOSSNIEH: That seems accurate.
[00:09:33] ASHLEY RAY: Wow, that’s kind of cold. Okay, I’m going to watch this.
[00:09:37] MOLLY LAMBERT: You’ll see, though. It’s, like, people who aren’t as smart as they think they are trying to get away with this thing. And it’s crazy.
[00:09:45] ASHLEY RAY: I think I’m going to love how LA it is, too. I tend to love a reality show set in LA. I have been watching You, Me & My Ex. Have you done this one on TLC?
[00:09:57] ANNA HOSSNIEH: No, I don’t watch that one.
[00:09:58] ASHLEY RAY: It’s about people who have inappropriately close relationships with their exes, even though they’re in new relationships.
[00:10:04] MOLLY LAMBERT: TLC finds the weirdest things to make shows about.
[00:10:06] ASHLEY RAY: Truly. And I don’t know why I love every single one.
[00:10:10] MOLLY LAMBERT: I can’t handle it.
[00:10:11] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. Whenever they’re like, “These sisters are too close. These moms love their sons too much.” I’m like, “I need to watch.” I Am Jazz–I watch it mostly because there’s all this controversy around it. And people are like, “Even if you’re pro or against, it just, like, you know, makes everyone mad on either side. And I watched it. I was just like, “This shouldn’t exist. Why am I watching this little girl’s first kiss? Like, this is creepy.”
[00:10:36] MOLLY LAMBERT: Sorry, what is I Am Jazz?
[00:10:37] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, I Am Jazz is about Jazz Jennings, the first, like, youngest trans girl to come out. She was, like, six years old, and she went on 20/20 with Barbara Walters. And so, her and her family became really famous because she’s, like, the youngest one to be, like, out. And so, then TLC was like, “Well, then she deserves a reality show.” And her mom was like, “I would love the money from a reality show.”
[00:11:00] MOLLY LAMBERT: Okay.
[00:11:00] ASHLEY RAY: And it’s basically her being like, “I would really love to just, you know, like, be a normal teenager and have crushes,” and her mom being like, “Well, you’re not allowed. Anyway, I’m going to put a camera in your face.”
[00:11:13] ANNA HOSSNIEH: “We need storylines.”
[00:11:14] ASHLEY RAY: “We need storylines.”
[00:11:15] MOLLY LAMBERT: What a nightmare.
[00:11:16] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. And her whole childhood is on it. And you see her go from, like, 15 to 22. And it’s like, “Oh, I shouldn’t have seen any of this. Please, someone just give her privacy.” And that’s the biggest thing.
[00:11:32] MOLLY LAMBERT: Is it over now?
[00:11:33] ASHLEY RAY: I guess? Well, she’s deciding if she wants to do another season. So, she’s in college now, and everyone is hoping that she’s, like, away from her mom and is like, “I’m just not doing this.”
[00:11:43] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I do hope she gets out. I’ve seen clips on Twitter, and I’m always like, “Is this still happening?”
[00:11:48] MOLLY LAMBERT: I remember when it came out, and I remember being like, “It’s still happening.”
[00:11:51] ASHLEY RAY: It’s still happening. It’s just too much detail. There’s no one who needs to know this much stuff about a little girl. And there’s no TV show that should be, like, telling– Like, if she was cis, there would be no reason for us to know, like, her bra size and all this stuff. And so, it’s just very intrusive of TLC and is, I think, a great example of what they do horribly wrong. And it’s like, “Cancel it, please. Have a backbone.” Whereas You, Me & My Ex? Oh, see, this is TLC at its best. Everyone involved is a consenting adult. And basically, they’re all like, “Yeah, I am married to this new lady. And I am still, like, obsessed with my first ex-wife. And so, she lives right next door to us. And I go over to her house, like, every day to do chores and errands. And my new wife is just kind of like, “Whatever.”
[00:12:42] MOLLY LAMBERT: That’s weird. Do these people know about polyamory?
[00:12:46] ASHLEY RAY: They do. There was one guy who tried to bring it up.
[00:12:51] MOLLY LAMBERT: This seems like probably it’s all people that are, like, trying to bring it up.
[00:12:55] ASHLEY RAY: Trying to bring it up.
[00:12:56] MOLLY LAMBERT: Like, “What do you think?”
[00:12:57] ASHLEY RAY: Like, truly, this guy was like, “Oh, my ex-girlfriend didn’t find a new place before her lease was up, so she needs a place to stay.” And he lets her move in with his fiancée. And the whole time he’s just making passive aggressive comments that are just like, “Oh, well, you know, Cindy–my first wife–she knows exactly how I like dinner and breakfast. Her tits look so much better than yours. I’m so happy she got a boob job, like, after we broke up.” And the fiancée is just sitting there like, “My parents are coming over for lunch.” It is the wildest show and people who have no boundaries. There’s this one guy who clearly wants to be in an open relationship because he’s bisexual, but the woman he ends up with and is engaged to gets pregnant. And she’s like, “I need to believe you’re completely straight for me.” But his ex is this guy he dated for, like, ten years, who’s around all the time. They FaceTime for two hours a day. The guy came to visit and was like, “I want to be the godfather of your children.” It’s just totally inappropriate.
[00:14:03] MOLLY LAMBERT: Do you think this show is there to, like, just reinforce straightness? to be like, “This is fucked up. This is weird.” You’re making me think about it, where I’m like, “Some people are friends with their exes.”
[00:14:16] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah. Dolores and Frank. New Jersey.
[00:14:18] MOLLY LAMBERT: That’s what I was truly just going to say is, like, “This happens on Housewives sometimes that people have a former partner.” But usually it’s clear that they’re not–
[00:14:31] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, they’re not romantic.
[00:14:32] MOLLY LAMBERT: They’re not romantic. They’re not sexual anymore.
[00:14:34] ASHLEY RAY: This isn’t that. Like, it’ll straight up be a guy with, like, the ex-girlfriend just, like, braiding her hair and, like, being like, “Come let me cuddle with you.”
[00:14:44] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah, that’s odd.
[00:14:45] ASHLEY RAY: It’s all over the place.
[00:14:47] MOLLY LAMBERT: Like, are they trying to start cults?
[00:14:48] ASHLEY RAY: That’s kind of what it feels like. There is this one couple where the woman has dated every other person. So, she was originally married to this one guy, divorced him to date her neighbor’s husband, they ended up getting divorced, she dates the neighbor’s husband, then they end up getting married, have a huge fight, separate, and then she gets with the neighbor’s wife. And so now they’re together, and it’s like…
[00:15:14] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Oh, so she’s just literally hitting up the neighborhood.
[00:15:18] MOLLY LAMBERT: She loves love.
[00:15:21] ASHLEY RAY: They’re my favorite couple because she’s still not technically divorced. So, like, her and the other guy are just, like, constantly bickering at each other.
[00:15:28] MOLLY LAMBERT: I want to see one where they all get along or at least where everybody’s like, “Yeah, it’s weird, but we’re doing it.”
[00:15:36] ASHLEY RAY: There’s one where the lady and her ex-husband separated, but then she was like, “Well, I’m a lesbian now.” And so, she’s now with a woman. And they were like, “Let’s use your ex-husband’s sperm for our children so that, like, your other kids can be related to these kids.” And so that was kind of a mess. But then they all were just like, “Whatever.”
[00:15:58] MOLLY LAMBERT: Yeah, that seems fine.
[00:16:00] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, that seems like a sitcom on ABC. That’s just Modern Family.
[00:16:06] ANNA HOSSNIEH: That’s Modern Family.
[00:16:08] MOLLY LAMBERT: TLC hates blended families.
[00:16:08] ASHLEY RAY: They hate blended families.
[00:16:13] ANNA HOSSNIEH: And you’re like, “Isn’t this weird?”
[00:16:14] MOLLY LAMBERT: “I guess I’m watching.”
[00:16:16] ASHLEY RAY: How about 90 Day Fiancé?
[00:16:18] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I do watch 90 Day Fiancé, but I go in and out.
[00:16:21] ASHLEY RAY: Fair.
[00:16:23] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Here’s the thing with 90 Day Fiancé–I get the ick with people really quickly, and then I can’t watch them because I’m like, “This…” God, because there’s been some dark, dark stuff on 90 Day Fiancé.
[00:16:36] MOLLY LAMBERT: It’s too dark for me.
[00:16:37] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. And this season–right now there’s 90 Day: The Other Way. And usually, I like this one because it’s, like, the Americans going to the other country and it’s, like, people who are genuinely in love. But there’s this woman from, like, Alabama who genuinely looks like a witch. Like, I don’t mean that in a… If you opened a cartoon drawing of a witch, that is what she looks like–the nose, everything. And she went to Colombia to be with this beautiful woman who, like, just came out of the closet and is like, “I’m so in love with her!” And at first, I was like, “Well, this is odd, but I support women loving women. Let’s do this. Yeah. We finally have solid lesbians on 90 Day.” And of course, their relationship by the finale is the one that is turning violent and is, like, terrifying. And you’re just like, “Someone get this, like, evil witch lady away from this woman and, like, help her.” I might need a break after this.
[00:17:32] MOLLY LAMBERT: It’s representation for toxic–
[00:17:35] ASHLEY RAY: Toxic lesbian representation.
[00:17:39] ANNA HOSSNIEH: There is a new Ultimatum coming out, which is all queer women. I’m actually excited for that.
[00:17:44] MOLLY LAMBERT: I just feel like people should see that because you know when straight women are like, “Oh, I wish I was a lesbian because women are so much easier than men”? You’re like, “Do you not know any lesbians?”
[00:17:54] ANNA HOSSNIEH: It’s called a relationship. It’s not just easy because it’s two women.
[00:18:00] MOLLY LAMBERT: Everyone’s insane.
[00:18:02] ASHLEY RAY: Please. That’s going to be really good. Yeah, I am excited for that. I do wish they’d somehow figure out a way to do, like, a gay Love Is Blind.
[00:18:10] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I mean, it doesn’t seem like it’d be that hard, right?
[00:18:13] MOLLY LAMBERT: There’s never been a gay Bachelor, right?
[00:18:16] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Well, in Australia, they had the first pansexual Bachelorette, and she had both men and women competing for her love.
[00:18:25] MOLLY LAMBERT: How has nobody made it and called it The Bi-chelor.
[00:18:29] ANNA HOSSNIEH: The Bi-chelor is pretty good.
[00:18:29] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, that’s good.
[00:18:32] MOLLY LAMBERT: Thanks. We’re selling it right now. No scabbing.
[00:18:36] ASHLEY RAY: No scabbing. Any other shows?
[00:18:39] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Actually, you know what I’m excited for? I really want Selling Sunset to come back now that Chrishell is with G Flip.
[00:18:45] MOLLY LAMBERT: They got married!
[00:18:49] ASHLEY RAY: I want to see that so bad.
[00:18:51] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Those little super hetero fucking twins are going to be so perturbed.
[00:18:55] ASHLEY RAY: I don’t think they’re going to know what to do in G Flip’s presence. And I need to see it break Jason’s brain when she comes to some open house birthday party celebration. That is what I mean.
[00:19:09] MOLLY LAMBERT: I think she’s Australian.
[00:19:11] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. Oh, yeah. They were in an episode of The L Word: Generation Q. They did a cameo at a wedding where they both, like, hit on Shane the whole time.
[00:19:23] MOLLY LAMBERT: They’re like, “Oh, wow. Chrishell and G Flip are here.”
[00:19:26] ASHLEY RAY: Yep. Truly. It’s Bette and Tina’s wedding. Like, finally the big day.
[00:19:29] MOLLY LAMBERT: That’s so funny because also, like, that’s exactly who would be friends in The L Word. They’d be friends with Chrishell and G Flip.
[00:19:37] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
[00:19:39] MOLLY LAMBERT: They’d be part of the West Hollywood scene.
[00:19:41] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Chrishell should just join the show. She used to be an actor.
[00:19:43] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. I mean, I thought she was going to get an arc. She just is in the one episode trying very hard to sleep with Shane and never comes back. And sadly, that show–also canceled.
[00:19:54] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Wait, so they’re playing themselves?
[00:19:54] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, they truly play themselves, being like, “Maybe we could all do it together. Open relationship. She understands.” And the whole time, Shane is just like, “Please don’t do that. Stop.”
[00:20:06] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I actually like that storyline. They’re like, “Guys, don’t worry. We’re chill.”
[00:20:10] ASHLEY RAY: “We’re chill. We’re going to get you in, and you’re going to look so cool with young queers. They’re going to be like, ‘Wow. We get it.’”
[00:20:14] MOLLY LAMBERT: That’s the Generation Q part of it.
[00:20:15] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, that’s the G Q part of it. That show–that’s a talk for another time. We’re going to take a quick break. And when we come back, we’re going to get into the current season of Below Deck Sailing Yacht. We’ll be right back. We’re going to finally just dig into all things Below Deck. I think since I’ve started the new season of this podcast and binged every spin off every episode, I have been such a dedicated Decky. We had Captain Sandy on the show, which is a really big moment for me. That meant a lot. But now we have Sailing Yacht, that’s what’s currently airing, which is actually the version that got me into the show. This was the first of any Below Deck I watched. So how are we feeling about this current season?
[00:21:05] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I like it so far.
[00:21:07] MOLLY LAMBERT: Yeah, I think we both think it’s a return to form for Below Deck. What do you think?
[00:21:12] ASHLEY RAY: I have to agree. We have a Chief Stew who doesn’t seem sure of herself.
[00:21:18] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Oh, Daisy.
[00:21:18] ASHLEY RAY: Daisy’s overwhelmed, and I don’t know why.
[00:21:22] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I have a theory. I think this is Daisy’s third season now. I saw Daisy at BravoCon dressed to the nines. I think Daisy is like, “I’m a reality star now.” It’s almost like the fact that she has to go back and do, like, labor is kind of starting to wear on her. She’s like, “I’m famous.”
[00:21:42] MOLLY LAMBERT: When somebody gets more than one season on Below Deck… Because Below Deck is the churn and burn show of all time. You never get attached to anyone because they won’t be back. But I like that about it, too. Normally shows just, like, go through new casts every season. This one, you’re like, “It doesn’t matter.”
[00:22:01] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. Like, I like when they bring in fresh blood. There are some… I like seeing Kate over and over. Like, there are some people.
[00:22:12] MOLLY LAMBERT: The best Chief Stews seem a little just flustered all the time. Like, they hate their job and their life, and that’s what makes a good Chief Stew. So, Daisy is really stepping up into the pole position?
[00:22:25] ASHLEY RAY: Oh, yeah. I mean, in this latest episode, I think Captain Gary is just like–
[00:22:31] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Glenn.
[00:22:34] ASHLEY RAY: Here’s the thing. I don’t respect Captain Glenn. No one respects Captain Glenn.
[00:22:39] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Glenn this season–I was texting Molly–is finally like, “No more Mr. Nice Glenn.” And it’s like, “Stop.”
[00:22:45] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. He asked Daisy, “Well, what is the issue getting the courses out on time?” And she’s just like, “I can’t even answer this question. I can’t even get into this right now.”
[00:22:54] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Fuck off, Glenn.
[00:22:56] ASHLEY RAY: And she just, like, walks away. And I’m like, “No one would do that to Captain Sandy. No one would just walk away.”
[00:23:01] MOLLY LAMBERT: Nobody’s afraid of Glenn.
[00:23:02] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. No one’s afraid of Glenn.
[00:23:04] ANNA HOSSNIEH: You would never do that to Captain Lee. If you walked off, you’d be walking off that boat.
[00:23:07] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. He’d be like, “You’re done.” And Glenn is just like, “Well, I share a bed with, like, a lower deckhand.” He’s had someone drop a water bottle on his head while he was sleeping.
[00:23:22] MOLLY LAMBERT: Even when he flipped out this season, which was, like, the first time we’ve really seen him lose his…
[00:23:26] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Well, no. Remember there was a time the boat hit the back and he was like, “God damn it!”
[00:23:31] ASHLEY RAY: Oh, yeah.
[00:23:31] MOLLY LAMBERT: Even when he flips out, we always say, “Sandy would blame somebody, even though it’s her fault. Captain Lee would, like, just make everybody feel really bad about it. Captain Glenn gets over it so fast.”
[00:23:45] ASHLEY RAY: So fast. And it’s just like, “I’m here with you guys. We’re working. Let’s figure this out.” You know, he was down in the engine room helping Colin when it was like, “Are we going to be able to even sail this season?” But at the same time, the charter guests in the last episode asked if they could have dinner with Gary before Captain Glenn.
[00:24:05] MOLLY LAMBERT: That was funny.
[00:24:08] ANNA HOSSNIEH: “Yeah. So, Gary’s got a lot of charisma.” Who are you? Are you trying to get him into your MLM?
[00:24:17] ASHLEY RAY: The son was also like, “Yeah, Gary, Gary.” And I’m like, “You’re supposed to eat with the captain.” And Captain Glenn was kind of sitting there like, “Oh yeah, no problem. It’s fine.”
[00:24:27] MOLLY LAMBERT: “I’m hungry, but it’s okay.”
[00:24:30] ASHLEY RAY: “I’ll eat with the crew. I’ll eat with the crew.”
[00:24:32] ANNA HOSSNIEH: And Gary sucks. I’m sorry. He’s so insecure. And he’s just, like, actually a terrible manager.
[00:24:39] ASHLEY RAY: A terrible manager. A horrible just, like, chauvinist pig. Like, he acts like he’s so charismatic and good with women.
[00:24:49] MOLLY LAMBERT: He’s such a good character.
[00:24:51] ASHLEY RAY: He’s great reality TV because he just knows how to, like, look at a woman and just continually say, “You’re gorgeous, you’re gorgeous, you’re beautiful,” until they make out with him.
[00:25:01] MOLLY LAMBERT: He has an incredible game plan, which is he just attacks people who don’t know what his game plan is already.
[00:25:07] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah.
[00:25:08] MOLLY LAMBERT: And anyone new, he just starts hitting on. And he goes for girls that have no self-esteem, so they’re going to be like, “Okay, maybe I’ll make out with Gary.”
[00:25:18] ASHLEY RAY: “Yeah. Gary. He’s kind of a big deal. And, like, I’m new on the boat.”
[00:25:21] MOLLY LAMBERT: We saw really his main tactic is just staying out the longest.
[00:25:26] ASHLEY RAY: Persistence.
[00:25:27] MOLLY LAMBERT: If you just are the last man standing in the hot tub.
[00:25:31] ANNA HOSSNIEH: If you last in the hot tub.
[00:25:34] ASHLEY RAY: You’re going to clean up every season.
[00:25:36] MOLLY LAMBERT: That’s what… Maddie is her name? Mads?
[00:25:38] ASHLEY RAY: Mads, yeah.
[00:25:39] MOLLY LAMBERT: She was like, “I didn’t want to make out with him, but the guy I want to make out with passed out. So, like, I had to move on.”
[00:25:51] ASHLEY RAY: And actually, I thought it was funny that he, like, left and then got a second wind and just, like, made food. I was like, “I got a lot of respect for that.”
[00:26:00] ANNA HOSSNIEH: They drink a lot, and then they have to be up on deck by, like, 9:00am.
[00:26:05] MOLLY LAMBERT: That’s what’s crazy. On Summer House, they do all this stuff, and then they just, like, sleep all day and go to barbecues. On Below Deck they do all this work. They have to work so hard and hook up, and then they have to be on a boat all day.
[00:26:18] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. And they’re supposed to be, like, in charge of people’s safety. Like, we had these two people crash into each other and cause this, like, major injury.
[00:26:27] MOLLY LAMBERT: That was not their fault.
[00:26:30] ANNA HOSSNIEH: They’re, like, talking, and you see it happen in the background.
[00:26:35] MOLLY LAMBERT: They told them not to do it. They warned them, like, “Don’t go too close to each other.”
[00:26:43] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Colin goes like, “What if we get them helmets?”
[00:26:45] ASHLEY RAY: When Captain Glenn’s like, “How can we prevent this again?” And they’re like, “I mean, you can’t.” And then Colin’s like, “Hey, guys, I have a helmet.”
[00:26:55] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Can I just say this about Gary, though? I really enjoyed the beginning of the season when Gary finally comes after having COVID, and he finds out everyone went so hard the night before. And you could just see him fuming–that he wasn’t there for that party. And I was like, “That’s Gary.”
[00:27:12] ASHLEY RAY: That’s Gary. That’s his whole vibe.
[00:27:15] ANNA HOSSNIEH: He’s going to, like, punish deckhands for being, like, attractive dudes.
[00:27:18] ASHLEY RAY: He truly hates them because they are hotter than him.
[00:27:21] MOLLY LAMBERT: Yeah, well, this is the first time this has ever happened. He’s always had this advantage that he was the only single guy on the boat. And they all just get, like, sea madness. It’s like summer camp or something. They do all get so horny and they’re at sea and they only have each other really to hook up with. So, people do hook up with Gary, and he’s depending on that.
[00:27:43] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah, it does become, like, Stockholm syndrome.
[00:27:46] ASHLEY RAY: That’s just who’s around. That’s what it seems to be like with Ben and Kate.
[00:27:51] MOLLY LAMBERT: Gary’s depending on a proximity effect. But he also does my favorite thing people do on this show, which is to hook up with somebody and then try to ghost them on the boat.
[00:28:01] ASHLEY RAY: Okay, he is the king of this, and I love when he does it. I truly love that every time he’s in a season, he is just going to make out with some girl on his first night and then try to be like, “Oh, you want to talk about it?”
[00:28:15] MOLLY LAMBERT: Just, like, avoiding seeing them on a thing that’s, like, 200 feet long?
[00:28:20] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Was it the year before last–the deckhand that he hooked up with? She worked with him. Sydney, right? He would try to avoid her, and it’s like, “You’re her manager.”
[00:28:30] MOLLY LAMBERT: It’s really a microcosm of a thing you see happen in real life, where you’re just like, “Did nobody think about how you’d have to see this person?” There’s no HR.
[00:28:38] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. There’s no HR.
[00:28:40] ANNA HOSSNIEH: The captain is just like, “Do your job. I don’t want to hear about it.”
[00:28:43] ASHLEY RAY: Glenn isn’t getting involved. I don’t like that about Captain Sandy because I feel like she does get involved in their relationships.
[00:28:50] MOLLY LAMBERT: She’s, like, a pot stirrer.
[00:28:55] ASHLEY RAY: After watching, I found out everyone hates Captain Sandy.
[00:28:58] MOLLY LAMBERT: Oh, we hate Captain Sandy.
[00:29:00] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Here’s the thing. I started out loving her. Then she started getting too involved. And then she did that thing where she tried to out Malia, and then I was like, “Dude, back off.”
[00:29:09] MOLLY LAMBERT: She’s like a Jane Lynch character. Also, just, like, her type of, like, lesbian, white feminism. Girl boss. She’s a Trump voter.
[00:29:18] ASHLEY RAY: Oh, yeah. She’s definitely just like, “If you just pull yourself up by your bootstraps, you can achieve anything.”
[00:29:25] MOLLY LAMBERT: “Yeah, I’m a boat captain. I’m a gay woman.”
[00:29:28] ASHLEY RAY: “So I did it.”
[00:29:29] ANNA HOSSNIEH: What is that she says?
[00:29:31] MOLLY LAMBERT: “Teamwork makes the dream work?”
[00:29:32] ANNA HOSSNIEH: She says it all the time.
[00:29:34] MOLLY LAMBERT: She does the thing where she tries to be friends with the crew. And then she uses things they tell her against them.
[00:29:43] ASHLEY RAY: I’m always like, “Why are they trusting her? Don’t tell her, you guys. Come on.”
[00:29:46] MOLLY LAMBERT: She’s a terrible boss. And the best part is she thinks she’s an incredible boss, that the crew loves her, and she’s friends with everybody.
[00:29:53] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Don’t tell Captain Sandy we said any of this.
[00:29:55] ASHLEY RAY: She’s definitely listening, but we’re not mentioning this. But, like, it’s true.
[00:30:02] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Look, like I said, I started out really liking her. And then I was like, “You actually need to step back and be more like Captain Lee, who’s like, “I don’t give a fuck.”
[00:30:10] MOLLY LAMBERT: The Hannah thing was the turning point.
[00:30:14] ANNA HOSSNIEH: And Malia and her maritime law. Say maritime law one more time.
[00:30:20] ASHLEY RAY: The Malia thing–that was when I was finally just like, “Okay, she’s being ridiculously silly.” And she acts like Malia is such an example of how good she is at being a mentor and a leader. And I’m just like, “I feel like Malia would go on any other ship if she could. Like, she would go work for anyone else.”
[00:30:37] MOLLY LAMBERT: Yeah, Malia’s just a good suck up. And Hannah is a great Chief Stew. When they turned on her–the show–you’re not going to side with Sandy.
[00:30:48] ANNA HOSSNIEH: But, you know, I feel like we are getting these Chief Stews towards the end of their careers where you’re really seeing how fed up they are and how they’re so over it.
[00:30:58] MOLLY LAMBERT: Both Kate and Hannah were like, “I got into this business to meet a rich guy. And I thought it would be fun and glamorous, and instead, it’s like a real job that sucks.”
[00:31:08] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah. “Now I have a Valium prescription.”
[00:31:12] ASHLEY RAY: “I have anxiety. I get panic attacks. If someone says they love me…”
[00:31:16] MOLLY LAMBERT: It’s a classic thing of like, “Maybe I’ll meet somebody working at my service job.” And then it’s like, “No, they’re not going to treat you like a person. You work a service job.”
[00:31:23] ASHLEY RAY: You’re a service worker to them. You’re the person who gets them towels, Hannah.
[00:31:27] ANNA HOSSNIEH: And the person who tells you he loves you is, like, a 23-year-old. Get out of here.
[00:31:33] ASHLEY RAY: Get out of here! And Daisy’s hitting that wall. And my hope is that now we finally have Colin single for the first time.
[00:31:42] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Finally!
[00:31:43] ASHLEY RAY: Let’s get into it.
[00:31:46] MOLLY LAMBERT: Colin’s the hot one.
[00:31:47] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah, Colin is the hot one!
[00:31:49] ASHLEY RAY: He’s always been the hot one.
[00:31:51] MOLLY LAMBERT: He’s genuinely hot. He’s genuinely charming. But he’s not, like, love bombing people–putting it on. He talks to women like they’re people.
[00:32:01] ANNA HOSSNIEH: And he has the no hot tub rule when he had a girlfriend.
[00:32:04] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, no hot tub rule.
[00:32:05] MOLLY LAMBERT: That’s just, like, very hot to people that they’re like, “Wow, this person respects his girlfriend.”
[00:32:12] ASHLEY RAY: Boundaries. His only real drama was when he was like, “My dog back home is sick.”
[00:32:17] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I will say last season also, he was playing a producer role because he was stirring shit up.
[00:32:21] ASHLEY RAY: He was. He was so good at stirring shit. He really does poke the bear.
[00:32:27] ANNA HOSSNIEH: He’s like, “Look, I’m not hooking up with anyone. I need to, like, maintain my spot on this cast. I’ll just start being like, ‘Ashley, what do you think about this?’” He was really talking to people and getting them riled up. He was getting Ashley and then the other girl–oh, gosh–what is her name? Gabby. He was actually stirring the pot between them. And I was like, “Wow. He wants to stay.”
[00:32:48] ASHLEY RAY: He wants to stay. He’s really in it. And I was like, “He’s really in the drama.” And so, I think he’s getting in the drama this season.
[00:32:55] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Well, here’s the thing. Fingers crossed he hooks up with Daisy. Gary fucking out of his mind.
[00:33:00] ASHLEY RAY: Off the deep end. That is what I want. I want Colin and Daisy. And I want Gary to lose it because I think Gary loves playing the whole, like, “Daisy and I maybe were meant to be.”
[00:33:10] ANNA HOSSNIEH: “While I try to fuck every other girl in front of her.”
[00:33:15] MOLLY LAMBERT: I think he really likes Daisy because she doesn’t put up with his shit. He doesn’t respect girls that fall for his fucking bullshit, you know? If somebody goes for it, that’s classic insecure person. You’re like, “Who would, like, fall for this dumb act I do?”
[00:33:33] ASHLEY RAY: Even Mads was like, “I didn’t even want to.”
[00:33:36] ANNA HOSSNIEH: “This guy’s a fucking idiot. But you know what? I’m wasted. I’ll make out with him.” Then when she’s sober, she’s like “Ew.”
[00:33:40] ASHLEY RAY: I guess the lady needs her needs met and, like, whatever.
[00:34:04] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I have a question. Would you guys take the room with Captain Glenn?
[00:34:06] MOLLY LAMBERT: No.
[00:34:07] ASHLEY RAY: Absolutely not.
[00:34:08] MOLLY LAMBERT: Is it bigger?
[00:34:09] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I think slightly.
[00:34:12] ASHLEY RAY: Yes, because it’s, like, a little longer because when they had that really tall guy…
[00:34:16] MOLLY LAMBERT: Oh, Jean.
[00:34:17] ANNA HOSSNIEH: The one who had a baby and denied it.
[00:34:20] ASHLEY RAY: He had to sleep in there because they were like, “It’s the only one that’s a little bit bigger for you.”
[00:34:27] ANNA HOSSNIEH: What was it? Jean-Paul? That guy was a real piece of shit.
[00:34:29] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. Jean-Paul something.
[00:34:32] ANNA HOSSNIEH: “That’s not my baby.
[00:34:33] ASHLEY RAY: He was truly just like, “Not my baby. Not my baby.”
[00:34:36] MOLLY LAMBERT: There were some plotlines in the past few seasons that were a little dark–a little bit too real maybe, like with real life consequences for people’s lives back on land.
[00:34:48] ASHLEY RAY: I mean, straight up, that girl was like, “I want to have a baby with you,” drunk on the boat. And I was like, “Oh no. You should not do that.”
[00:34:56] ANNA HOSSNIEH: And then she went and hooked up with her friend.
[00:34:57] MOLLY LAMBERT: There’s been some, like, gray rape stuff that’s happened on the show.
[00:35:01] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I think all of Below Deck is a very questionable–
[00:35:03] ASHLEY RAY: A very gray territory.
[00:35:06] MOLLY LAMBERT: It brings up larger reality TV questions of getting people really wasted.
[00:35:11] ANNA HOSSNIEH: But even, like, remember the season that Sydney kept getting into Gary’s bed?
[00:35:15] ASHLEY RAY: Yes! Oh my gosh. Yeah, that was a big one. And straight up just, like, got on top of him and was like, “Oh, it’s already in.”
[00:35:25] ANNA HOSSNIEH: That was Ashley. This has happened multiple times. There was Sydney when she was the deckhand who worked with him who would just get in the bed with him when he was wasted and she was wasted, which is like, “You can’t do that.” And then there was Ashley who also in the guest cabin insisted he put it in. And then they, like, I guess decided it wasn’t happening.
[00:35:44] MOLLY LAMBERT: That was horrifying because it’s happened multiple times. And it is truly like, “Oh my God. You tell everybody you’re a slut. And then you get disrespected.” He won’t accept that it’s fucked up.
[00:35:59] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Like, I don’t want to feel for Gary. It’s like, “Girls, please.” It’s still rape if it’s a woman.
[00:36:05] MOLLY LAMBERT: I mean, have you ever known a guy–something fucked up happened, he’s telling you about it, and you’re like, “Yeah, that’s bad. You got sexually assaulted.” And they’re like, “No, that’s not what that was.”
[00:36:17] ASHLEY RAY: And the next day, Gary was like, “I don’t remember anything.” And then I know people online were like, “Hey, this is really messed up.” And Gary, like, came out and was just like, “No, I’m not mad at it. We had a whole convo.”
[00:36:30] MOLLY LAMBERT: “Men can’t be victims.” Like, “Yes, they can.”
[00:36:33] ASHLEY RAY: Gary, they can.
[00:36:36] MOLLY LAMBERT: This season feels wholesomely horny so far. It feels like a return to the sort of thing that gets you into Below Deck in the first place, which is like, “Okay, a bunch of young, fun people who have this weird, kind of cool job. Beautiful settings, really fun vacation porn, a bunch of insane rich people, and then everybody getting really horny in a hot tub every night.”
[00:36:57] ASHLEY RAY: And then they go drink on land sometimes and they make out. It’s great.
[00:37:02] MOLLY LAMBERT: Sometimes you get someone who’s, like, an angry drunk or, like, an incoherent drunk, you know, like, a bad energy drunk. A drunk who goes in a bad direction
[00:37:13] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I will say.
[00:37:14] ASHLEY RAY: Those are my favorites.
[00:37:15] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Drunk Rachel, like, going up to some band in the Caribbean and being like, “Hit it! Do you know this song?” And them being like, “No…” That was great.
[00:37:23] MOLLY LAMBERT: Rachel in the kitchen being like, “Suck my dick.”
[00:37:27] ASHLEY RAY: One of my favorite chefs. Yeah. How do we feel about this season’s chef?
[00:37:32] MOLLY LAMBERT: I think she’s interesting because she’s not your traditional Below Deck chef. Usually, the chefs are…
[00:37:38] ANNA HOSSNIEH: They’re, like, aggro men
[00:37:39] ASHLEY RAY: Yes, angry, angry men.
[00:37:41] MOLLY LAMBERT: Or women. They’re aggro. They’re divas. They’re aggro divas, which is the stereotype about chefs–they’re like aggro divas because they’re perfectionists.
[00:37:52] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Did you watch Adventure? Below Deck Adventure?
[00:37:53] ASHLEY RAY: I did do Below Deck Adventure. That lady was so mean. She was so rough. And I just remember the episode where, like, every plate had hair in it.
[00:38:04] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah. What was that?
[00:38:07] ASHLEY RAY: And she just kept being like, “It’s not me. It’s the waitresses.” And it was like, “I don’t think so. I’m pretty sure…”
[00:38:11] MOLLY LAMBERT: Yeah. No, a lot of them–their main thing is they’re unable to take criticism. The guy who kept putting onions in everything.
[00:38:18] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Adam. The one who lived in his van. He was a real monster.
[00:38:21] ASHLEY RAY: He was a real monster. I hated him.
[00:38:23] MOLLY LAMBERT: However, it must be so hard to cook on a boat. Like, of course they’re stressed out. Can you imagine?
[00:38:31] ASHLEY RAY: Especially in Sailing Yacht. That’s going back and forth.
[00:38:33] MOLLY LAMBERT: Sailing Yacht is the best. The reason Sailing Yacht is great is because the main thing that happens every season is the boat falls over and everything falls off.
[00:38:41] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I like to call it “Below Deck Broken Glass” because it’s just every five minutes there’s broken glass everywhere. And all the Stews are always so pissed when he sails.
[00:38:52] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. They’re always just like, “Here we go.” And it’s like, “Aren’t you guys prepared?” And then it always cuts to Captain Glenn being like, “Oh, now we’re really going. This is great.” And everyone below is just like, “Oh no.”
[00:39:02] MOLLY LAMBERT: There is something about the sailing where I’m like, “Is that why Captain Glenn is chiller? Because it’s a sailing yacht?” Makes me think just, yeah, yacht rock, chill times.
[00:39:12] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Sailing Yacht I think is chiller overall because 1) Parsifal–always broken.
[00:39:16] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, always broken.
[00:39:17] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I don’t know why we still use this boat. It’s always a mess.
[00:39:20] ASHLEY RAY: And to me, it seems like Captain Glenn is not the greatest captain because he has, like, hit that boat against the dock 80 times.
[00:39:28] MOLLY LAMBERT: They always do.
[00:39:30] ANNA HOSSNIEH: It’s always run aground. The engine doesn’t work. It’s hitting a wall because of engine issues.
[00:39:35] ASHLEY RAY: Or he always has a bad team that’s like, “Oh no, we don’t really know how to dock. Oops.”
[00:39:41] ANNA HOSSNIEH: “Oopsies. Oh well.”
[00:39:44] ASHLEY RAY: “Maybe we can have somebody just, like, come out and fix it.” And I’m like, “Captain Sandy would lose her mind if, like, she even graced the side of the dock. Come on.”
[00:39:53] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Oh, yeah. Captain would literally cut somebody’s head. “My thrusters are out.” That’s what they always say.
[00:40:00] ASHLEY RAY: “My thrusters are out.” Yeah.
[00:40:03] MOLLY LAMBERT: This chef is kind of chill. She’s a different type of chef. She’s, if anything, a little bit, like, unsure of herself.
[00:40:09] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, she has no confidence.
[00:40:11] MOLLY LAMBERT: Because chefs are always mad. Overconfident.
[00:40:15] ANNA HOSSNIEH: She’s a little nervous. You can feel just cutting all her fingers off.
[00:40:17] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, she’s cutting herself. She’s, like, freaking out at every little thing. She’s moving kind of slow.
[00:40:23] ANNA HOSSNIEH: “Eels? Eels?”
[00:40:24] ASHLEY RAY: “They sent me a whole filet!”
[00:40:28] MOLLY LAMBERT: That filet-o-fish they sent her was, like, so thick. =
[00:40:31] ASHLEY RAY: That did look really big.
[00:40:33] MOLLY LAMBERT: But just trying to think about doing any of this stuff on a sailing yacht.
[00:40:38] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, I just want to be like, “Girl, you got to get some confidence. You know, you got to be like that girl who made the nacho cheese chips.”
[00:40:43] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Oh my gosh. Mila? She clearly was not a chef.
[00:40:48] ASHLEY RAY: She was not a chef and was just like, “What? I put the cheese. They said they wanted nachos.”
[00:40:53] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Store bought taco shells. I feel like the chef’s food looks good, though.
[00:40:59] MOLLY LAMBERT: The American, like, soul food night that they had. The whiskey tasting.
[00:41:04] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I was actually down for that. The homemade cornbread?
[00:41:09] MOLLY LAMBERT: She’s doing something different than the rest of them all do–like high end cuisine with little squiggles and stuff.
[00:41:15] ASHLEY RAY: Surf and turf.
[00:41:17] MOLLY LAMBERT: She was like, “No, if you’re on a boat all day, like, you want something hearty is what I would imagine.” I would want cornbread and brisket or whatever it was.
[00:41:27] ASHLEY RAY: And I feel like this lady–she seems to be doing okay. She has a frantic energy, and I need her to get it together.
[00:41:34] MOLLY LAMBERT: There was a stressful beach picnic, but the beach picnics are always stressful.
[00:41:39] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Has there ever been a successful beach picnic?
[00:41:45] ASHLEY RAY: I feel like Kate did one. Or that one Chief Stew who was gay. What was his name? Fran?
[00:41:50] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah, it sounds like it’s, like, Fran.
[00:41:51] ASHLEY RAY: Fraser! Thank you to our producer. Yeah, Fraser, I think, did a good one. And then the one in this episode was horrible. The set up they did–it was just, like, four folding chairs and one mini table. And I was like, “What?”
[00:42:08] MOLLY LAMBERT: They were like, “They want American beach snacks.” And by that they meant hot wings?
[00:42:12] ASHLEY RAY: Hot wings, which I was like, “Okay, who does hot wings on the beach?”
[00:42:17] MOLLY LAMBERT: Get all sandy? Sandy hot wings? No.
[00:42:20] ANNA HOSSNIEH: And that guy.
[00:42:22] MOLLY LAMBERT: He didn’t like the hot wings.
[00:42:25] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Remember later when he was like, “Yeah, I own, like, three units in the Trump building”? You just suck. Like, what are you talking about?
[00:42:33] MOLLY LAMBERT: Is that why he was like, “We want American beach food”? You’re in Sardinia. I was like, “What are American beach snacks?”
[00:42:40] ASHLEY RAY: I was like, “Potato chips?”
[00:42:42] MOLLY LAMBERT: That’s what I thought. I was like, “What? Hot dogs?” There’s no traditional American beach food besides potato chips. It’s not like popcorn in the movies. You’re not like, “Wings in the beach.”
[00:42:58] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. Maybe, like, corn dogs? No, that’s not a beach food.
[00:43:04] MOLLY LAMBERT: American beach snacks.
[00:43:09] ASHLEY RAY: I did not like these charter guests. They were just bad people. The kid was clearly very entitled.
[00:43:18] MOLLY LAMBERT: Oh my God. When he was like, “I want a milkshake.”
[00:43:22] ANNA HOSSNIEH: He asked, like, Captain Glenn.
[00:43:28] ASHLEY RAY: “I got to go straight to the top with this.”
[00:43:30] MOLLY LAMBERT: And when the charter guests were complaining about the beach picnic and comparing it to being at a resort, they’re like, “You know when you’re at an incredible resort and you go into a disgusting town where all the people who actually live there go, and then you’re like, ‘This is horrible. Back to the resort’?”
[00:43:47] ANNA HOSSNIEH: They’re on Sailing Yacht. This is the lesser of the whole franchise.
[00:43:53] ASHLEY RAY: This is the one where they’re making do, okay?
[00:43:56] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah.
[00:43:57] MOLLY LAMBERT: It’s such a crazy idea to me to go to a place like that and be like, “I want to never interact with the local culture. I don’t want to meet anybody except the people I came with and people who are working for us.” I want to go to Sardinia.
[00:44:13] ASHLEY RAY: I want to go. And I respect the people who at least are like, “Bring on dancers to the boat. Bring on the local people.” At least I’m like, “Okay, you’re trying.”
[00:44:21] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah, that’s better than them being like, “We want a ’90s party with your crew dressed like Britney Spears.””
[00:44:28] ASHLEY RAY: Sometimes I just think those things are torture. Like, they’re like, “What’s the most evil thing we could make them do?”
[00:44:33] MOLLY LAMBERT: Are theme parties bad?
[00:44:35] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I think theme parties on the boat are weird.
[00:44:39] ASHLEY RAY: I think a theme party in life is fine. But on a boat when it’s, like, with your four friends and you’re doing a theme with, like, five people.
[00:44:49] MOLLY LAMBERT: All they do on Summer House is have themed parties and it’s because they’re all, like, overgrown frat guys.
[00:44:55] ANNA HOSSNIEH: But they, like, invite people in. This is just like you’re hanging out with your dad.
[00:45:01] MOLLY LAMBERT: They had a good theme for a party, which was Studio 54. And they had another one that was, like, a bunch of old adults having a euphoria party that was pretty good.
[00:45:12] ASHLEY RAY: That’s pretty funny.
[00:45:13] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I liked when they had the, like, bondage party. That was fun.
[00:45:18] ASHLEY RAY: Oh yeah.
[00:45:19] ANNA HOSSNIEH: So, they do fun themes on that. But again, on a boat–you’re on the boat!
[00:45:23] ASHLEY RAY: Let the boat be the theme. That’s how I feel.
[00:45:26] ANNA HOSSNIEH: You don’t need, like, shitty balloons everywhere.
[00:45:30] ASHLEY RAY: The decoration is so bad.
[00:45:32] MOLLY LAMBERT: They don’t know what they’re celebrating unless there’s a tablescape.
[00:45:34] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, there has to be a tablescape.
[00:45:35] ANNA HOSSNIEH: That’s the only thing that matters is a tablescape. I think we could get into, like, podcast table tablescaping.
[00:45:41] ASHLEY RAY: I would be into that. Yeah. Just make it gorgeous while you’re, you know…
[00:45:48] MOLLY LAMBERT: Anna got Bugsy’s book.
[00:45:49] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah, I bought Bugsy’s tablescaping book. Never tried to tablescape off it because it truly is like, “What, do I spend all my days at Michael’s?”
[00:46:00] ASHLEY RAY: That’s what it seems like. They just have all these, like, baubles and shit that they’re just like, “And cover this, and then boom.”
[00:46:05] ANNA HOSSNIEH: And sort of, like, gauzy…
[00:46:08] MOLLY LAMBERT: It seems like a thing that a rich woman would get really into.
[00:46:11] ANNA HOSSNIEH: “This cabinet is strictly tablescaping stuff.”
[00:46:16] ASHLEY RAY: Like, “I’ll really build a scene.” And I love the people who get into it, but I’m always like, “If there’s no tablescaper, it’s fine.”
[00:46:25] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Just make it look nice. I remember Captain Sandy was really into tablescaping and then clearly gave up after a while.
[00:46:29] ASHLEY RAY: That’s her big thing.
[00:46:31] ANNA HOSSNIEH: She hasn’t asked for it as much anymore.
[00:46:32] ASHLEY RAY: I think she realized, like, it’s just not a skill they teach anymore, and she’s like, “I’m just going to accept that.”
[00:46:37] MOLLY LAMBERT: It’s also like nobody cares as much as they think they do. They’re not like, “Wow.” It’s like, “You could put, like, some shells on the table.”
[00:46:46] ANNA HOSSNIEH: When there’s a huge one, there’s no room for food. It becomes about the mini beach you set up in the middle of the table.
[00:46:54] MOLLY LAMBERT: I like when they ask for something that they have no idea how to do. This time they were like, “A gelato buffet.” They were like, “What the fuck?”
[00:47:02] ASHLEY RAY: “Okay. We’ll get dry ice, I guess.”
[00:47:05] MOLLY LAMBERT: There’s one time when they were like, “A candy banquet.”
[00:47:08] ASHLEY RAY: Oh, right. That one seemed a little boring.
[00:47:11] MOLLY LAMBERT: And they did a really bad job with it.
[00:47:12] ASHLEY RAY: Oh, the worst one, I think, was the girl who would do the tablescapes that were edible. And she would just, like, throw the food all over. Oh my God, I hated that.
[00:47:23] MOLLY LAMBERT: Do you remember that? When she, like, threw the chocolate on the table?
[00:47:27] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Oh, wait, that was… Oh my God. What was her name? Didn’t we take, like, an online cooking class with her?
[00:47:33] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Oh, yeah!
[00:47:34] ASHLEY RAY: Oh my gosh.
[00:47:35] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Below deck, like, promotional thing we did with her. And she was not good at teaching how to cook.
[00:47:39] ASHLEY RAY: I would imagine.
[00:47:40] ANNA HOSSNIEH: She was like, “Then you do this, and it’s ready.” And you’re like, “Where were the directions?”
[00:47:43] MOLLY LAMBERT: She didn’t give us any steps.
[00:47:44] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Natasha?
[00:47:46] ASHLEY RAY: Oh, Natasha, yes. Oh my God, she was one of the worst.
[00:47:49] ANNA HOSSNIEH: But we loved her. She escaped the toxic relationship. I was like, “Good for her. Now you’re a boat chef? That’s incredible.”
[00:47:58] ASHLEY RAY: Beautiful. And she just didn’t want to listen to anyone.
[00:47:59] ANNA HOSSNIEH: She didn’t know what hollandaise sauce was. She didn’t know what, like, over easy was.
[00:48:05] ASHLEY RAY: And wouldn’t admit, like, “Oh, I should Google this.”
[00:48:08] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Wasn’t there, like, 20 pitas?
[00:48:12] ASHLEY RAY: And they’re like, “There were three pitas on the thing.” She’s like, “I literally carried the tray up and there were four pieces of pita on it.”
[00:48:17] MOLLY LAMBERT: “I counted them. There are 29–”
[00:48:18] ASHLEY RAY: She was like, “Oh, there were 500 pita slices.”
[00:48:22] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Pitagate. That’s what I remember.
[00:48:24] ASHLEY RAY: Aw, she was great. So, what are you two hoping for the rest of this season?
[00:48:29] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I want Daisy and Colin to just fuck in that cabin. And I want Gary to implode.
[00:48:37] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, I want him to hear it. I want him to be, like, aware.
[00:48:40] ANNA HOSSNIEH: He needs a taste of his own medicine.
[00:48:42] MOLLY LAMBERT: Yeah. I think Mads and Alex are probably going to hook up.
[00:48:47] ASHLEY RAY: I hope so.
[00:48:50] ANNA HOSSNIEH: But that poor Charleston boy who’s just like, “I told Gary I loved her. Gary hooked up with her.”
[00:48:58] MOLLY LAMBERT: I love when they have, like, a Southern hick on the show. It happens every once in a while. And they’re always like, “I served in the Army Reserves. Now, I work on the boat.”
[00:49:08] ASHLEY RAY: “And I love my mother.”
[00:49:10] MOLLY LAMBERT: “I love my mama. And I’m probably secretly racist.”
[00:49:16] ANNA HOSSNIEH: “I used to wash garbage trucks in the day. I had shit in my nose all day, and now I’m on a boat.”
[00:49:19] ASHLEY RAY: “And now I’m on a boat. I can’t believe this life.”
[00:49:21] MOLLY LAMBERT: There’s that one guy who is like, “That’s not how we do it back in Bama.”
[00:49:25] ANNA HOSSNIEH: There was the guy from Texas on Adventure who got fired because he was so aggro.
[00:49:33] MOLLY LAMBERT: He was, like, peeing on people. “That’s what I do in my frat house.”
[00:49:35] ASHLEY RAY: Well, this isn’t that.
[00:49:38] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah. He’d be, like, wasted in his cabin–to his cabin, being like, “You want to go?” Like, that’s the worst guy.
[00:49:45] ASHLEY RAY: He was awful. And yeah, they did bring in a good replacement for him.
[00:49:48] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Oh, that guy was like, “Can I have the Bosun job?”
[00:49:51] ASHLEY RAY: “Could I have the Bosun job? Give it to me.” And they were like, “We have two days left. Like, why does this matter to you?”
[00:49:56] ANNA HOSSNIEH: You don’t just tell the captain you want a bosun job.
[00:49:58] MOLLY LAMBERT: No, it’s like, “I want to get bumped up at the last second.”
[00:50:01] ASHLEY RAY: He was just like, “Fine, if it means anything to you, you’re the bosun. Okay. The last 20 minutes, there you go. Really enjoy it.” But, yeah, I’m excited for the end of the season. I want to see Captain Glenn really lose his shit.
[00:50:18] ANNA HOSSNIEH: The Parsifal is going to sink.
[00:50:19] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, it’s going to sink.
[00:50:22] MOLLY LAMBERT: It never doesn’t.
[00:50:23] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. He’s going to hit something. It’s gonna sink. And that’s what I’m looking forward to.
[00:50:28] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I want to hear him cuss. Whenever he cusses, you’re like, “Wow! Big boy.”
[00:50:33] ASHLEY RAY: “Big boy. Look at him.”
[00:50:36] ANNA HOSSNIEH: “God damn it!”
[00:50:36] ASHLEY RAY: I did think he was going to get close when the charter guests wouldn’t stop talking to him when he was trying to, like, park.
[00:50:42] ANNA HOSSNIEH: He’s like, “I got a lot of rich friends.” And he’s like, “Yeah, yeah.”
[00:50:46] ASHLEY RAY: He’s like, “So what do you do in here?” And he’s like, “I’m trying to listen to them to do the whole thing.”
[00:50:50] ANNA HOSSNIEH: “I’m parking the boat.”
[00:50:51] ASHLEY RAY: “I’m literally doing my job.”
[00:50:53] MOLLY LAMBERT: I liked when he was eating flatbread, and everybody thought it was matzah. They’re like, “Mazel tov, Glenn.” He was like, “I’m not Jewish. It’s just flatbread.”
[00:50:58] ANNA HOSSNIEH: His career is just starting. He has Postmates commercials. Was it DoorDash or Postmates?
[00:51:07] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. Captain Lee got forced out.
[00:51:09] ANNA HOSSNIEH: They forced him out?
[00:51:10] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, they forced Captain Lee out.
[00:51:13] MOLLY LAMBERT: He’s an insurance risk at this point.
[00:51:14] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Absolutely. He can’t walk around on the boat.
[00:51:18] MOLLY LAMBERT: He keeps getting injured on the boat. It did really fuck with my idea of, like, how being a ship captain works because I really believe you get to do it till you die. And then you go down with the ship.
[00:51:27] ASHLEY RAY: You go down with the ship, and you just, like, sit in a chair.
[00:51:30] MOLLY LAMBERT: Every sea captain I’ve ever, like, seen a drawing of is, like, an old, grizzled guy who’s been doing it forever. So, the idea that you can be forced into sea retirement. Also, he doesn’t want to go back to land.
[00:51:43] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I think it’s like he’s an icon. I have a photo of him from BravoCon. He’s being, like, transported in a tiny, little, yellow, like, golf cart. And he’s in the golf cart in the back, like, pointing at people. People are shrieking at him. “Captain Lee!”
[00:52:00] MOLLY LAMBERT: He’s the new star.
[00:52:02] ANNA HOSSNIEH: You don’t need boats anymore, bro.
[00:52:04] ASHLEY RAY: He does do this tour thing where he, like, goes to–I don’t know–clubs for old people. And he talks and just drinks, and you can go. You pay to spend club time with Captain Lee.
[00:52:20] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah. I had a Zoom meeting with him once for something. I cannot say what. But he was so cool. And he called me “kiddo” at one point, I was like, “I made it, baby. I’ve got the ‘kiddo,’ baby!”
[00:52:33] ASHLEY RAY: That’s the dream.
[00:52:35] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I didn’t say this to him, but in my mind, I was like, “You don’t need this anymore, right? You can do whatever you want. You are Captain Lee. You’ve said some of the craziest shit on TV.” What is it? “I’d rather drag my dick through a bunch of broken whiskey bottles than do that.” You’re like, “What? Write a book of sayings.”
[00:52:52] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah, just go do that, and go be rich forever. I would buy that. Captain Glenn’s the only person who needs the show.
[00:52:58] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah, like, go buy Mary Anne some pearls. Go buy Mary Anne some diamonds.
[00:53:03] ASHLEY RAY: She’d love that.
[00:53:04] MOLLY LAMBERT: That’s beautiful.
[00:53:07] ASHLEY RAY: That’s a beautiful note to end on. And I want to thank you both for joining me today. This was so much fun.
[00:53:11] MOLLY LAMBERT: Yeah. Thanks so much for having us.
[00:53:13] ASHLEY RAY: All things Below Deck. What do you two want to plug?
[00:53:16] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Deckheads, we have a streaming show we do on either Tuesday or Wednesday nights. We have an Instagram and a Twitter. You can follow us. We post when we’re streaming. It’s @deckheadspod. It used to be a podcast. We stopped doing it as a podcast because it was exhausting. So, you can go look up The Deckheads Podcast, which has almost every single episode covered until about a few years ago–until we started streaming.
[00:53:41] MOLLY LAMBERT: That’s where I came in. She replaced someone with me.
[00:53:44] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I replaced my co-host because, look, honestly, he wasn’t as committed.
[00:53:49] ASHLEY RAY: You need to be committed.
[00:53:49] MOLLY LAMBERT: Below Deck is all about cycling new people in.
[00:53:52] ASHLEY RAY: You got to cycle new people in. Fresh blood.
[00:53:54] ANNA HOSSNIEH: So, I brought in my other Chief Stew. And so yeah, you can check us out Tuesday or Wednesday nights on Twitch.
[00:54:00] MOLLY LAMBERT: Tuesday or Wednesday at 6:00 p.m. or 7:00 p.m.
[00:54:03] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Depending on our mood and our schedule.
[00:54:04] ASHLEY RAY: Yeah. That’s the beauty of Twitch. It’s very how you’re feeling about it.
[00:54:08] MOLLY LAMBERT: It’s a very casual stream.
[00:54:09] ANNA HOSSNIEH: We talk about Below Deck, and we all talk about all the Bravo shows really. We talk about a lot of reality TV.
[00:54:13] MOLLY LAMBERT: We also talk about other things. We ended up talking about Ozempic for, like…
[00:54:17] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Ozempic’s a big–
[00:54:18] ASHLEY RAY: That’s a big topic in reality TV.
[00:54:20] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah, we were researching Ozempic and the side effects to be like, “Is this worth it?” And then some guy is like, “Ozempic is out. It’s all about Mounjaro.” And you’re like, “Wow. Ozempic’s already old.”
[00:54:35] MOLLY LAMBERT: Which is fun because commenters will tell you stuff. It’s fun to outsource content to the people that are watching the show and being like, “I have a question. You answer it.”
[00:54:44] ASHLEY RAY: “You answer it. You figure this out.”
[00:54:46] MOLLY LAMBERT: Yeah, but we’re also always trying to get Steven Soderbergh to come on the show.
[00:54:50] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Big Below Deck fan.
[00:54:52] ASHLEY RAY: Oh, I mean, he listens to this. Oh, yeah, he’s for sure probably listening.
[00:54:56] MOLLY LAMBERT: He’s the number one Below Deck fan. He’s also a big reality TV fan.
[00:55:00] ASHLEY RAY: I didn’t know that.
[00:55:02] MOLLY LAMBERT: The reason he loves Below Deck is because it’s, like, a really hard seeming show to shoot. He’s really interested in the logistics of shooting it. So, I think he went to visit the set at one point.
[00:55:12] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Just went to a boat.
[00:55:14] MOLLY LAMBERT: I think he went to a Below Deck filming.
[00:55:17] ANNA HOSSNIEH: That’s actually pretty cool. You’re a deckhand and Steven Soderbergh’s like, “Wow.” Just, like, looking at you while you’re cleaning the deck.
[00:55:24] ASHLEY RAY: “How do you get these shots of them, like, farting in bed at night? Wow.”
[00:55:30] MOLLY LAMBERT: He said it was research for a movie. And then the movie turned out to be that movie with Meryl Streep where she’s on a cruise.
[00:55:37] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Wait. Really? Different vibe, though.
[00:55:40] MOLLY LAMBERT: Totally different vibe.
[00:55:42] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I need a Below Deck directed by Steven Soderbergh.
[00:55:43] MOLLY LAMBERT: I think he just wanted to go see Below Deck filmed.
[00:55:45] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah, he lied.
[00:55:47] ASHLEY RAY: They should let him do his own episode.
[00:55:49] MOLLY LAMBERT: Yeah, they totally should.
[00:55:51] ANNA HOSSNIEH: That would be an incredible episode of Below Deck–directed by Steven Soderbergh. It’s so dramatic.
[00:55:56] MOLLY LAMBERT: Sex, Lies, and Videotape on a boat.
[00:55:57] ANNA HOSSNIEH: Yeah.
[00:55:58] MOLLY LAMBERT: Sold.
[00:55:58] ASHLEY RAY: I’m sold. Well, thank you so much for joining me. Oh, drop your handles, too. Where should they follow you?
[00:56:03] MOLLY LAMBERT: I’m @molly_lambert on Instagram. I’m off Twitter now. That’s where you can find me.
[00:56:09] ANNA HOSSNIEH: I’m @annahossinieh on Twitter, and I’m @sellinghossinieh on Instagram.
[00:56:13] MOLLY LAMBERT: That’s where she does her promotional–
[00:56:16] ANNA HOSSNIEH: That’s where I sell myself to you as a human being.
[00:56:18] ASHLEY RAY: Where the sales happen.
[00:56:19] MOLLY LAMBERT: Where the influencing happens.
[00:56:21] ANNA HOSSNIEH: All the influencing I do.
[00:56:23] ASHLEY RAY: Nice. Thank you so much! TV, I Say with Ashley Ray is an Earwolf production made by me, Ashley Ray-Harris. It’s engineered by Abby Aguilar, produced by Scott Sonne, executive produced by Amelia Chappelow. And our original theme song is by RaFia. It means so much to me if you go rate, review, subscribe. Follow TV, I Say. Let us know what you think and tell your friends. Share with your Golden Girls. Tell your Boys. If you love my TV recommendations, let everyone you know know. For special TV Club members, join my Patreon. And you can also find my full archive of ad free episodes of TV, I Say over on Stitcher Premium. Use Promo code “tvisay”–all one word–for a one-month free trial at stitcher.com/premium
November 28, 2023
Guest Sona Movsesian
Gilmore Girls, Friends, The Office – what TV do you put on to drown out your family during the holidays?
November 14, 2023
Do you remember where you were the first time you heard Meredith Grey’s infamous line, “Pick me, choose me, love me”? Shaun Diston joins Ashley to discuss and act out some of their favorite TV monologues from shows including Grey’s Anatomy, Scandal, Designing Women, Andor, and more.