August 17, 2021

EP. 118 — Watching Paradise Burn to the Ground with Lizzie Johnson

The California Camp Fire was the deadliest and most destructive wildfire in California’s history. This week investigative reporter Lizzie Johnson is on the show to discuss her firsthand experience reporting on the fire and its destruction. You can check out her book, Paradise: One Town’s Struggle to Survive an American Wildfire, at


FACT-118-20210812-Johnson-RCv02-DYN.mp3 Speaker 1 [00:00:22] Hello everyone, and welcome to Factually. I’m Adam Conover, thank you so much for joining me once again as I talked to an incredible expert about all the things that they know that you don’t know. I almost definitely don’t know. My mind is going to be blown. Your mind is going to be blown. We’re going to have a great time together. Can’t wait to get to this interview but before we do, I have a little bit of housekeeping I want to do. A couple of weeks back, I had an episode on ADHD where I spoke with Dr. Stephen Hinshaw. We talked about the history of the diagnosis and most importantly, we talked about my own personal history with ADHD. I was diagnosed at a very young age, and I struggled for many years with whether medication was helping me or hurting me and whether I felt the diagnosis even applied to me. I have very complex feelings about the pharmaceutical industry’s influence over the

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