June 29, 2021

EP. 111 — What Do We Owe Wild Animals? with Emma Marris

What are our moral obligations to nature, and the wild animals that live in it? Should we vaccinate them? Should we feed them when they’re starving? Should we kill so called “invasive” species? Emma Marris is back this week to discuss her new book Wild Souls and the complex ethical dilemmas surrounding our relationship with wild animals. You can check out her book at factuallypod.com/books


FACT-111-20210625-EmmaMarris-ACv02-ALT-DYN.mp3 Speaker 1 [00:00:02] Hello everyone, welcome to Factually. I’m Adam Conover, so wonderful to have you listening to the show once again; to an incredible interview with an incredible expert who knows some incredible things that you probably don’t know. Let’s get into it. Part of our fascination with the natural world, with nature, is that it operates according to different laws than we have in our human civilization. In fact, the laws of nature often run counter to the laws of human society. For instance in our society, we don’t really love it when someone gets murdered; we think that’s bad and we think that we should prevent such a thing happening at all costs. But when a creature in nature murders another creature and eats it, well, we don’t send the nature cops out there to bust them and send them to forest jail. No, we say, ‘Wow, look at majestic nature, red in tooth and claw. Why, that’s

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