July 7, 2020

EP. 169 — Are We Hearing A Crescendo of Anti-Racism in Classical Music? with Dr. Kira Thurman and Ashleigh Gordon

This week on Getting Curious, Dr. Kira Thurman and Ashleigh Gordon join Jonathan to discuss the remarkable work of Black classical composers and musicians through history and today.

Dr. Thurman is an assistant professor of History and Germanic Languages and Literatures at the University of Michigan. Ashleigh Gordon is the co-founder, Artistic and Executive Director, and violist of Castle of our Skins, a Boston-based concert and educational series devoted to celebrating Black Artistry through music.

Follow Dr. Thurman on Twitter @kira_thurman, and follow Ashleigh on Instagram @violashe and at www.violashe.com. Keep up with Castle of our Skins on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook at @castleskins, and at www.castleskins.org. Castle of our Skins has an incredible resources page with organizations, ensembles, composers, and more.

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Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness & Dr. Kira Thurman and Ashleigh Gordon   JVN [00:00:00] Welcome to Getting Curious. I’m Jonathan Van Ness and every week I sit down for a 40 minute conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious. On today’s episode, I’m joined by historian and musicologist Dr. Kira Thurman and violist and co-founder of Castle of Our Skins, Ashleigh Gordon, where I ask them: Are we hearing a crescendo of anti-racism in classical music? Welcome to “Getting Curious,” this is Jonathan Van Ness. I’m so excited for this episode for several reasons, but one of them is because this is our first episode specifically about classical music and contemporary music generally. And it’s only our, like, third episode ever with two guests at once. So I’m so excited for that. So without any further ado, welcome Dr. Kira Thurman. She is an assistant professor of history and Germanic languages and li

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