December 28, 2022

EP. 297 — ICYMI: Do Beauty Standards Need A Glow Up? with David Yi

As we wind down for the year, we’re re-releasing one more essential beauty episode from the Getting Curious archives! Jonathan and David Yi celebrate the history of gender-inclusive beauty, and spotlight beauty influencers across millennia—like Neanderthals who used highlighters, Korean warriors who invented three-in-one sticks, and ancient Egyptians who developed anti-aging creams.


David Yi is the co-founder of the gender-inclusive beauty brand good light, and the CEO and co-founder of Very Good Light—a beauty publication dedicated to redefining masculinity. They are also the author of the book PRETTY BOYS, which honors beauty icons past and present who have redefined masculinity and gender expression.


You can find David on Twitter and Instagram @seoulcialite; good light is on Instagram and TikTok, and at; and Very Good Light is on Instagram at @verygoodlight and


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JVN [00:00:00] Welcome to Getting Curious. I’m Jonathan Van Ness and every week I sit down for a gorgeous conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious. This holiday break, not only do I hope you’re having a gorgeous one, but we’re also celebrating beauty from all angles. Science, history, self-care, and beyond! So far, I’ve answered your beauty questions, we explored the science of hair variation, and today we are rereleasing the episode all about gender inclusive beauty. It’s such a freaking smash, you guys, stay around to listen. Without  further ado, here’s our conversation with David Yi, where I ask them: Do beauty standards need a glow up? Spoiler alert: yes! But also it’s been kind of, like, really cool throughout history so take a listen. Thank you for creating this book. For writing this book. For taking me on that journey. I was moved. I was enlightened. And I’m so excited that you’re

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