October 12, 2023
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329.5 — Last Looks: Bats
Paul Scheer [00:00:00] Jason and I are the new Simon Cowell and Randy Jackson. Plus, we’ll get in deep with guano and you will find out about one of the best shows that’s happening in Los Angeles that you didn’t even know about. All of this and more on today’s Last Looks. Hit the theme.
Music [00:00:21] [Intro Song]
Paul Scheer [00:00:40] Hello, all you cigar smoking sheriffs and jacked Bats. I’m your host, Paul Scheer, and welcome to How Did This Get Made Last Looks where you, the listener, get to voice your issue or issues on Bats and as always, I reveal next week’s movie. But first things first, a big, huge shout out to Quinn for that spooky John Carpenter inspired opening theme song. I got to say, that was great. And we love your Last Look theme song, so please keep it coming. And not only do we want your Last Look themes, but we are potentially looking for a new theme song for our regular movie episodes too. In fact, Jason is going to join me later and we’re going to critique the first batch we’re going to go through. It’s going to be like American Idol for your theme songs. I can’t wait to hear what you think of them as well. So tell us if we got it right or wrong. Anyway, we want more songs and it will give Jason and I more to critique anyway. If you think you have what it takes to oust our current theme song, send it in and you’ll see after this episode what we are looking for. All right. And send them in to HowDidThisGetMade@Earwolf.com or you can post it on our Discord in the theme songs channel. Yeah, we got a channel for that. The very least, Jason and I will judge your song on air. And you know what? That sounds like a true pleasure. I know that would instill so much anxiety in me, but you know what? You’re better than us. Anyway, people. How Did This Get Made is on the road. That’s right. Next week we’re going to be in Maine. We’re going to be in Providence, Rhode Island. We are going to be in New Haven, Connecticut, and Brooklyn. Come out, see us, come dressed in costume, come singing a song, come asking your questions. Just go to HDTGM.com for tickets. And I also want to just call out one thing, one really awesome thing. I am putting together this charity event. It is called the Give Backular Spectacular. It’s a night of comedy, music and variety, some games with amazing people like Lily Tomlin, Jeremy Allan White, Patton Oswald, Ray Romano, Michael McKean, Rachel Bloom, Janelle James, Nicole Byer, LeVar Burton, Drew Carey. Myself. June Diane Rayfield, Simon Helberg. Jack Quaid, Jack Black. The list goes on and on. Sam Richardson is going to be there. It’s going to be a great night. And it’s all to help our crew who are struggling due to this Hollywood strike. And the money is, the money we’ve raised has been impressive. I’ve co-founded this organization and we’ve raised over half a million dollars in four months. It’s a ragtag group. All the money goes through the motion picture Television fund. Emergency Health Care Fund. And I’m going to give you a thing right now. You go check out the Orpheum Theater on 1025, the Give Backular spectacular. And I’m going to give you a code. A code is SOLIDARITY. It is solidarity. You enter that and you get your second ticket for half price. That’s two tickets for about 75 bucks. Not a bad deal. Also, it’s going to be live streaming. I’ll tell you more about that. But you can just watch it live on Veeps.com or on my Twitch channel. Anyway, I’m trying to create content. I’m trying to get it out there. I’m trying to raise some money. I’m trying to do a good thing. Anyway, I want to see you on the road, and I want to see you either in that theater or on that live stream. Okay, now let’s talk about today. Let’s talk about Bats. All right? Because Bats was a fun a fun episode. We had to cut a lot out. And this is a deleted scene from our bat show where we got sidetracked talking about Mr. Beast. Yes. The Internet personality.
Paul Scheer [00:04:25] Your name and your question.
Audience Member [00:04:28] Hi, I’m Margo. And my question is, can we just talk about the kid who kept on playing the video game at the diner? While his father was being attacked by Bats.
Ike Barinholtz [00:04:39] While his father was thrown across the counter.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:43] Dragged down the dragged down the rent, the diner.
Ike Barinholtz [00:04:45] Kind of like in Superman, too. Like it’s like, how did he do that?
Paul Scheer [00:04:49] And it’s like and here’s the version of it that I would buy a kid listening to his headphones. Headphones. Exactly. And just like, you know, But he’s no headphones on, seemingly. He’s in a perfect vantage point.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:05] A scathing indictment of how videogames are turning our kids.
Ike Barinholtz [00:05:08] Yeah. For real. That kid is four feet from that man that is being killed. He’s right here.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:14] He’s oblivious. He’s so into the video game.
Paul Scheer [00:05:17] Yeah, well, sometimes when I call my kids and they’re watching Mr. Beast, it is the same thing. Like, guys, breakfast. Guys, breakfast.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:26] He’s giving $11 million to a school of fish. Asking them to do better on the AP exams.
Ike Barinholtz [00:05:36] He’s making all the different ethnic groups fight in a giant gladiator style. And he’s going to pay all their medical bills for a year.
Paul Scheer [00:05:47] Oh, my gosh. He did have a challenge that I found odd. He did his own version of Survivor where I think people couldn’t pee for 24 hours. Was that it?
June Diane Raphael [00:05:56] No.
Ike Barinholtz [00:05:56] He’s going to get someone killed eventually. That’s not good.
June Diane Raphael [00:06:00] Think that was the one, Paul, where he drew a circle in a big warehouse and saw how long people could stand in the circle. But then every day, the circle got smaller and smaller. But then there was a part two, and I never could find it on the Internet. So I don’t I actually don’t know what happened.
Ike Barinholtz [00:06:18] On the record, we all love, Mr. Beast. We’re all going to be working for him in a couple of years.
June Diane Raphael [00:06:22] He will end these strikes.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:23] Here’s the thing you are listening to how did this get beast. And we and we love Jimmy and Jimmy loves us. How did this get beast.
Paul Scheer [00:06:34] By the way, a Mr. Beats basketball just arrived at our house tonight.
Ike Barinholtz [00:06:39] He’s got his own basketballs?
Paul Scheer [00:06:41] Yeah, I mean, I bought it for my son for his birthday. It came a couple of weeks late, but. But a mr. Beats basketball did arrive.
Ike Barinholtz [00:06:47] Does he play a lot of basketball? Is he a hoops guy?
Paul Scheer [00:06:51] Well, that I know. My son loves Mr. Beats. Then I went to go look on his gift store, and I was like a basketball, that works.
Ike Barinholtz [00:06:57] So that’s the kind of thing that my son could get into that would make him not like Mr. Beast.
Paul Scheer [00:07:05] The whole car ride, the whole carpool the other day was talking about how Mr. Beast is being sued. And they’re like, Well, what? Like for how much is everybody in the carpool? And I said, $100 million. “Whoa. He’s got it.”
June Diane Raphael [00:07:19] Yeah, he does.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:22] I like that every kid knows what Mr. Beast is worth.
Paul Scheer [00:07:27] They’re not worried about the lawsuit. They’re like, He got it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:30] Your kids are all in the backseat reading the Robb Report.
Paul Scheer [00:07:38] All right. Welcome back. Last week, we talked at length about Bats, a movie that discord user Fun Facts 47 thinks could have had the tagline “Bats. It’s guano be crazy.” I like that guano. I like it. Well, we have questions about Bats, and we might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set a straight. Fact Check us, if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions.
Music [00:08:13] [Corrections and Omissions Song]
Paul Scheer [00:08:44] Thank you 4Angels4Wins. Love that name as a great theme song and a great name. All right. Let’s go to the Discord right now. Cameron says “In defense of the second opinions writer who said that Bats could happen, not only could it happen, it did happen, at least in terms of weaponizing Bats and having similar disastrous results.” What? Cameron, what are you talking about? Well, he says “During World War Two, while Oppenheimer was developing the atom bomb, the U.S. Navy had a competing program called Project X-ray, the brainchild of a dental surgeon who lived near Carlsbad Caverns, a famous bat hotspot. The plan was to attach incendiary devices to thousands of Bats and drop them over Tokyo just before dawn. The idea was the Bats would look for the most convenient places to roost the, you know, the eves of homes, barns, schools, etc. and then timers would detonate them once they were settled. Not only was this plan incredibly inhumane to the bats, it was especially barbaric as bats can’t be trained to seek out military targets. So most of the casualties would have been civilians. The plan was popular enough that FDR gave it the thumbs up predictably, much like the events depicted in the film. Things went sideways quickly during the first test run. Immediately, the bats caused millions of dollars of damage to their own Air Force base when they blew up several fuel tanks and the new car of the general in charge of the project proving that bats are nobody’s patsies.” Wow. Cameron H let’s just give it to you right now. I mean, who can beat that? We’ll see. Derek chimes in. Derek says, “I have an answer to June’s questions. Do Bats just always have diarrhea? I used to volunteer at the zoo with bats. Basically, flying requires a lot of energy, so bats eat a lot. But most of their food, whether it’s bugs or fruit, isn’t very digestible and would weigh them down. So Bats use a high volume, low processing strategy to get as much energy out while keeping their weight down for flight. So they poop a lot. Bat poop gets a special name because it has high nitrogen content, which makes it very useful for pre-industrial fertilizer and gunpowder. You can check out a whole Reddit about that at Reddit.com/r/batfacts for more bat info.” But the guano talk continues with Dr. Guts. Dr. Gut says “When LDP” That’s Lou Diamond Philips “and Dina Myers are wading in the river of Guano, LDP lights a flare to help them see. But guano is highly flammable. In fact, during the Civil War, the Confederate Army actually resorted to using bat guano for ammunition in reaction to the Union’s blockades. The moment LDP would have lit that flare, the entire mine would have ignited into a fireball from all the methane gas in the air. In fact, something similar happened. Oh, my God. In real life and the 1800s, lightning struck the mouth of a bat cave located in a small Texas town, causing a massive explosion. The townspeople actually found humor in this and renamed their town Blowout Texas.” Holy shit. These are blowing my mind. Corgi herder writes, “If you are creating the ultimate predator and you are a mad scientist like Dr. McCabe, how far down the list are Bats? He couldn’t find something bigger and already dangerous?” Yes, Corgi Bats. It seems like a I don’t know. Maybe it was jungle warfare. I don’t know. I can’t pronounce this person’s name, but it looks like it’s just the image of a bat “When the guys are talking about not being maternal, about Bats. I had to come here to share this video.” All right, So this is wild. This is a clip from a 1978 episode of the BBC News program Nationwide, where zoologist Sherri Bramwell talks about her relationship with the pet fruit bat named Balls. That’s right. That’s her pet fruit bat named balls. As you listen to the clip picture of the bat hanging upside down from her neck like a necklace, because that is exactly what is happening.
BBC Video [00:12:54] But my relationship began by having him as a sweet little baby bat. He was only about six inches long. And I sort of tamed him first. And he began to look at me as his mother.
BBC Video [00:13:06] Does he hang around like that all day?
BBC Video [00:13:07] I love having him around my neck, especially in the winter. It’s like a sort of electric bat, neck warmer. Wonderfully warm on a cold winter day. I take him out with me. I take him out shopping, and I take him to parties, and he wakes me up. Which he does by hanging from the heat of the bed. And he knows you’re asleep because your eyes are closed. But you see, what he does is he takes his thumb, which is just which is this bit here. And he’s very, very delicately with it lifts open your eyelid and lifts it open and then wakes you up like that. And that is amazing because he knows he’s got to get the eyes open to wait till he knows not to hurt you.
Paul Scheer [00:14:00] Please find this clip. That is too good. It is too good. Thank you for sharing that. Oh, my God. Mitch KAPAA Chung style writes, “I had a couple issues with the fortifying the school montage. First, I’m afraid their electric fence wouldn’t work because Jimmy was connecting both the positive and negative wires to the fence. That will just create a short circuit. And at most, the small area of fence between the two cables just might get hot. But the larger issue was why did they pick such a big location to fortify in the first place? They had their run of the town at that point. Find yourself a nice, small and secure spot with way fewer windows. If LDP took them there just because of the turntable and PA system, I question his commitment to the mission.” Wow. Okay, well, last but not least, Cameron H returns with a follow up to his earlier comment. Cameron, you come at the front, you come at the back. Cameron writes this. “Holy shit. I was researching more into Project X-ray and discovered that the youngest member involved, Jack Colfer, ended up writing a book about his experience on the project in 1992 called Bat Bomb. After World War Two, he worked in Hollywood for a time as a documentarian and a cinematographer, ultimately getting nominated for an Academy Award for best Cinematography for a little film called Jonathan Livingston Motherfucking Seagull.” Holy shit, Cameron, I thought that you would have lost your perch, but you regained it, doubling down two times. No need for debate. Cameron is our winner, and as such, he gets this amazing song. Hit it.
Music [00:15:46] [Winner’s Song]
Paul Scheer [00:16:03] Thank you, Katie Morse for that song. Remember, if you want to submit an alt movie tagline or chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode. Hit us up on the discord at Discord.gg/HDTGM Or call us at 619-PAUL-ASK. That’s 619-PAUL-ASK. Stick around after the break. Jason will join me to judge theme song submissions. American Idol style, baby. Be right back.
Paul Scheer [00:16:31] All right, everybody, let’s go and check out what’s been happening on Matinee Monday. Every Monday, we rerelease an older episode back into the rotation. This week’s matinee Monday was Lake Placid with Paul F. Tompkins and Nate Corddry. I love that episode. And since today is Friday the 13th. Next week we will be rereleasing our episode on Friday the 13th part six: jason lives. So keep on checking out these replays of classic episodes every single Monday. All right. Now, with any further ado, it’s time for Jason to join me in a little just chat. Jake Holstein, play us in.
Music [00:17:22] [Just Chat Song]
Paul Scheer [00:17:35] Jason. A couple of weeks ago, I put a call out to our listeners. I said, You know what? We have had some great themes, themes that have been made by our listeners for our show. The main How Did This Get Made theme and I said, You know what? Why don’t we open it up once again? The show has grown. We have amazing, talented people that are making great songs every week for Last Looks. Why don’t we open it up and give them an opportunity to trump to best what we already have?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:06] Yeah. I just want to say to exactly the point you were just making. Only in these last, you know, a few years have I been dropping in and hanging out with you on Last Looks. Yes. And boy, is it so impressive to hear all of these fan submitted theme songs, you know, ancillary songs, all the all the original music that you guys are doing is incredible. And I was listening back to one of our segments because I couldn’t remember if I’d recommended something or not. And so I heard a song that I hadn’t heard when we were doing it that featured vocals by James Kochalka. You referenced.
Paul Scheer [00:18:45] Oh yes.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:45] Which for me was a blast from the absolute past. James Kochalka, AKA was a, is a indie comics creator, a like indie music creator, someone whose music and comics were very much a part of. I think I spoke to James Kochalka, aka on the phone when I was my college radio station’s general manager in like 1993 or 4, which at that point I was really delighted by that. So I just wanted to shout that out because I was like, Whoa, whoa.
Paul Scheer [00:19:21] I love that. Oh, that’s amazing. All right. Well, that’s what I’m saying is we got great, talented people here. I wanted to give them a shot. Not saying that we’re going to replace the theme, but we’re.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:31] Don’t freak out.
Paul Scheer [00:19:33] We’re just opening it up, opening it up to say, hey.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:37] We’re encouraging creativity. Exactly. And if we find something that works, great. And what we’re going to do right now is kind of like, you know, it’s kind of like a reality show, our reality show. We’re going to we’re going to listen to a little bit of these and we can comment on them. We can listen to the whole thing. We are going to Simon Cowell the shit out of these people. Rob from Long Island, watch out. We’re coming for you like Jeff Olander, get ready.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:05] Huge mistake the Action Jackson five.
Paul Scheer [00:20:09] All right. So I haven’t heard these. You haven’t heard these. Our producer Scott has heard these. And we got three. We got three. And Scott, do you have any other ones or just three total three.
Scott Sonne [00:20:22] I might have one or one or two more if we want to add some into the mix.
Paul Scheer [00:20:25] All right.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:26] But these these are the these are the cream of the crop, according to Scott.
Paul Scheer [00:20:29] Let’s say this, Scott, let’s start us off.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:31] So these suck. It’s on Scott.
Paul Scheer [00:20:33] Well, that’s what I kind of want to do. I want to kind of say, Scott Let’s start off with one that you didn’t even put into the top three. Only because we need a baseline. We need a baseline. It doesn’t mean that that.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:45] Wow, that’s this is savage for this person like you’re setting this person up as the worst.
Paul Scheer [00:20:49] Yeah I’m not saying you know look there’s many reasons why it may not be the perfect song, but I don’t want this person to feel like you didn’t give me my due. Like you didn’t. I submitted it, and you didn’t even play it. Your producer knocked me out before I even had a chance.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:06] Send your angry emails to Scott.
Paul Scheer [00:21:09] Yes. So I want you to know that we’re on your side. We haven’t heard it. But, Scott, you know who’s titled the folder here these are not the ones that he wants. But again.
Scott Sonne [00:21:19] Wow. Really throwing me under the bus here. But, hey, I’ll take it.
Paul Scheer [00:21:23] No, you don’t have to, honestly, Scott is great and we want to make sure that everyone feels heard. And you know what? If this this stinks, The truth is, it’s good for Scott. It’s good for Scott.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:35] Just so people know, like Scott. Great guy, great producer. I did see him after a Largo show once kick a Dog.
Scott Sonne [00:21:42] That dog had it coming to him, alright.
Paul Scheer [00:21:45] And by the way, it was a puppy. It was a puppy with a bow on it. It was really a vicious attack.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:51] Really. It was brutal.
Paul Scheer [00:21:52] No, but I will say this. We do play a lot of songs on Last Looks that people submit. Some weeks, they’re bangers, some weeks you’re like, okay, that is a song that technically qualifies as a song and that then that’s all we’re doing here. I think we got to take the pressure off. So here we go. The one that didn’t even make the cut. What do we got?
Scott Sonne [00:22:11] This comes from Benjamin Hilton.
Music [00:22:17] Maybe there were 14 different writers, and I think the original was French. If only the ADR were a bit tighter. Regardless of the theory that it made our buttcheeks clench. Now brace yourself for Paul’s explanation. Gird your loins for the Jason of our group. Go to bed for June’s righteous indignation. We know it sounds incredulous, but how did this get made?
Paul Scheer [00:22:52] All right. Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:52] Wow. This is what Scott is trying to keep from us?
Paul Scheer [00:22:56] Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:57] Put it on the show. Put it on every past show. Every future show. This is it.
Paul Scheer [00:23:02] I have to say a couple of things about that. First of all, the length perfect 40 seconds. Can’t get better than that. Second of all, it reminded me a little bit and I don’t want to come across mean here, Ben, but your voice had a little bit of a Kermit the Frog energy.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:19] I thought it was a Kermit the Frog impression at first.
Paul Scheer [00:23:22] And you know what? It endeared me to the song immediately. And the. And the polka music. Very Weird Al. I was engaged.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:31] Here’s where I will say I was engaged as well. I thought it was a blast. But the mix is troubling.
Paul Scheer [00:23:36] Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:37] Because the instrumental track and I’m genuinely curious that I can’t remember if we said Benjamin Helton submitted this. And in the mix, the instrument, the instrumental stuff is mixed. Too loud and your voice too soft. So I’m being assaulted by polka music and can barely, I have to focus so hard to make out the clever lyrics.
Paul Scheer [00:24:00] I also agree. I heard towards the end I got a little bit more into it. There are some funny turns in it. Jason of our group, the ADR needed to be a little bit tighter. I like it. Again, this is just we’re setting a baseline. And I got to say, anybody who submits you’re a hero and I’m not against that one. I thought we’re going to be I thought.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:23] I’m going to be let’s be clear. Let’s be clear. We’re applying the model of the podcast. Which is the show. Yeah. We’re only we’re just doing it to your theme song. So we’re we’re not trying to trash you. We’re not trying to eviscerate anybody. I think Benjamin did a fantastic job. And frankly, I would just like and I would like to hear a redo on the mix.
Paul Scheer [00:24:46] I’m down. Look, and that’s what we’re here for. We’re here to be we’re not here to just knock him out. We’re not here to be like Scott kicking a dog. I got to say, you know, we’re going to give people second chances and we’re going to say, hey, maybe there’s something you could do here. And that that’s our little.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:58] No, no, no. Scott, stop doing thumbs down. Scott, Scott, stop doing thumbs down.
Paul Scheer [00:25:04] Now he’s like, Oh, gosh, he’s making a noose around his neck. Okay. Well, anyway, so now we’re out of the Scott wants to kill Himself folder. That’s the folder that Scott has just used puke emojis on. And we’re going to now get to some different ones.
Scott Sonne [00:25:22] All right. This next one comes from Rob from Long Island. Long time theme submitter and Jason, you’ll be happy to know he is the one who had James Kokoschka featured on his song as well.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:35] Oh, hey, nice. Oh, great job Rob from Long Island.
Paul Scheer [00:25:38] I love this.
Music [00:25:39] Welcome, everybody. Come on in and have fun. Watch the strangest movie under the sun. Paul and June and Jason says, they talk about the movies that confuse us the most. Like Mac and Me, Sucker Punch, Jingle All the Way, Geostorm, The Wicker Man with Nicolas Cage. Boogie, Rhinestone Ladybugs and Runaway. How did this get made?, How did this get made?, How did this get made?, How did this get made?, How did this get made?, How did this get made?, How did this get made?, How did this get made?
Paul Scheer [00:26:18] Wow. All right. So the, we’ve upped, we’ve upped it a little bit. Rob always delivers a solid.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:26] That was great.
Paul Scheer [00:26:27] I really liked that. I thought that was really fun.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:29] Giving me a little bit like a it’s the end of the world as we know it vibes, running through all the stuff. I especially like the chorus. The How Did This Get Made chorus.
Paul Scheer [00:26:41] I liked the bouncing, but you know, Jason, I’m going to go back and say what you just said. I think the mix is a little too. Sometimes the mix is a little too low. I feel like the songs we’ve had, the voices are in the front of the music a little bit.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:56] I’m now wondering if that’s a fault that we are, that these maybe mixed better, but what we’re listening to or the way we’re listening to it over Zoom might be affecting it. Could that be possible?
Paul Scheer [00:27:07] I mean, Scott, what do you think?
Scott Sonne [00:27:09] Listening to the the local file, I would have to agree as well. I don’t think it’s just the zoom.
Paul Scheer [00:27:14] Okay.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:15] Okay.
Paul Scheer [00:27:16] Okay.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:16] Okay. Scott is taking a shit on his keyboard.
Paul Scheer [00:27:19] I mean, he’s ready to go.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:23] Scott is literally dumping on his computer, he’s mad at these submissions.
Paul Scheer [00:27:25] I mean, but that’s, you know, that that he’s a taskmaster, you know, he likes to just get in there and, you know, you got you got to you got to appease him and you got to get in there. So, I mean, this is good. I like that. I mean.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:36] I liked this. Here’s what I’ll say. I here’s here’s one of my criteria for a How Did This Get Made theme song or actually. And I’m curious. Paul
Paul Scheer [00:27:48] Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:48] Paul I’m curious how you feel. Are there any criteria or can you think of any shows that have theme songs that you love, that there’s a thing that you like about it? Because I have one, I realized that I feel like those are the two that we’ve heard so far. Well, the the Rob from Long Island could have benefited a little bit more. And one of the criteria I think that is for us, it really meaningful and impactful is that it’s the song is hyping up the show.
Paul Scheer [00:28:17] Yes, I agree. I feel like I figure you got to come in with some high energy.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:23] Not lyrically or anything like that, but I don’t mean like hyping the show, like what you’re saying about the show. I mean, energetically, the song I think should be a little up.
Paul Scheer [00:28:31] Well, to me, what I’m also thinking about is the way the show starts. We have a little intro and then it’s like, boom, and we’re just going, yeah, we’re going boom, right out. And and I do feel like you’re right. Like, I’m trying to think of the songs.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:46] Can we play Rob from Long Island again? We don’t have to listen to the whole. Yeah, but yeah, like, I almost feel like frankly, I would like this this would almost work as an outro theme.
Paul Scheer [00:28:54] Wow, I like that we don’t even have an outro. Alright, I like this.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:57] Okay, so the show ends and whatever the final things are, and then what happens next, Scott?
Music [00:29:04] [Rob’s Theme Again]
Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:13] Okay, so you can stop it here. Now, there’s a little bit of stuff that doesn’t exactly make sense because it feels like an intro song, but the tone of it, I feel like, is a wind down, not a wind up. Does that make sense?
Paul Scheer [00:29:25] Yes, I think you’re right. I feel like I know. Here’s the thing. I still like the song.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:32] Oh, I really do. That’s why I’m advocating it be an end of show theme. Like that. We have, like, an end of show.
Paul Scheer [00:29:38] Yeah, we have, like. Yeah. There’s something about, like, I. I want to come back to this song. I feel like there’s something here that’s good. But I agree with you. Like it has a. It does have a wrap up vibe to it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:49] Especially because if you go further through Scott and start, I feel like it’s dadada. This is a little bit up and then the How Did This Get Made, which I really like, is a little bit down, am I right?
Music [00:30:01] [Rob’s Theme]
Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:13] It’s great. I like, I like this chant along. How Did This Get Made? I like, How Did This Get Made? How did this get me? Like, I feel like, for example, I feel like at a live show, the audience would chant along.
Paul Scheer [00:30:27] I like that. Yes, I agree. I feel like, yeah. So I think that that maybe what we’re saying is we like that there’s something there. Yeah. We need to, you know, look.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:36] Maybe. Maybe Scott set a zoom with Rob from Long Island, we’re going to need to get into
Paul Scheer [00:30:41] We’re going to have to figure out.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:42] What’s the what’s what’s the next level of this on on a reality show?
Paul Scheer [00:30:47] At this point he’d be working with coaches. Yeah, exactly.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:53] Again, we are so grateful for everybody who submitted. I truly love it. It’s great.
Paul Scheer [00:30:58] I love it. I love it. I love it. Okay, so let’s go to our next our next submission.
Scott Sonne [00:31:06] All right. This next one is from Jeff Follander. And I think, you know, you brought up being an outro. This was one I felt could actually be a decent outro, but I don’t want to sway you before you listen. So.
Paul Scheer [00:31:17] All right.
Music [00:31:26] How, how, how? Did this get made? Don’t seem like these folks should have got paid. Well John Paul, Jason and June are going to do their best and a special guest gonna do the rest. Well how, how how, did this get made? The best damn podcast show ever got made.
Paul Scheer [00:32:34] A little bit more and.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:50] Wow.
Paul Scheer [00:32:50] Whoa. Okay,
Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:52] That was. That was incredible. Jeff. Jeff, what does it say? Fallonderr?
Paul Scheer [00:32:57] Yes. Jeff Follander. Yes, I. I really. I was. I wanted to say what I liked about that was it felt confident in what it was like. It didn’t. You know, I don’t know if that’s the right launch into our show.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:11] But let me be clear. It is not. We cannot start How Did This Get Made with a minute and a half long blues, acoustic blues song. That being said, Jeff, absolutely incredible job. Like what? Right. I love it as a song, I hear. That’s what made me think. I agree with Scott, who said you could use it as an outro. You could use it in Last Looks. There’s plenty of places to put it. It just can’t. It’s not at all pumping you up for. Are you ready to. Are you guys ready to rock this show?
Paul Scheer [00:33:47] But it also feels like very organic to the show. And that’s the thing I can’t quite figure. I can’t like, oh, it’s like, yeah, the vibe. It’s got vibes for days. It’s not the best opening, but at the same time, like, I like the I like the sound, I like the voice, I like the lyrics. But yeah, that was really fun.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:05] Yeah, I like, I love, I love that. I thought that was great. And it also made me want to and I’m certain we probably can’t do this, but. There’s just so much good stuff that’s been submitted for all this type of stuff. Wouldn’t it be great if it all lived somewhere as a streamable?
Paul Scheer [00:34:21] I mean, yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:22] Like you could just be a YouTube channel or something. I’m certain we it would have we would have all sorts of problems playing other people’s music. Well, but it has to be such that we weren’t, we weren’t making money off of it.
Paul Scheer [00:34:35] Right.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:35] We’re not trying to make. But. But wouldn’t it be cool for people to have access to all of these? Great.
Paul Scheer [00:34:39] Well, yeah. And I mean, it’s not like the songs. It’s not like they can go off and do that much with. It’s not like. It’s not like we’re taking, like, shake it off and making money off. Like there’s a very specific.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:51] But I want to also. Sorry, you didn’t let me finish. I also want to do Shake It Off.
Paul Scheer [00:34:54] Okay, Well, that now we will have to talk.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:56] I want to do it. Will somebody start? Is there a How Did This Get Made Eras concept?
Paul Scheer [00:35:02] I mean, look, I’m all you know, I’m all in on Taylor Swift. Let me ask you a question, Jason.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:06] Sure. Go ahead.
Paul Scheer [00:35:07] Very. You know, look, everyone’s talking about it. Taylor Swift and and Travis Kelce. Would you feel comfortable in, like. Like I’ve never seen this much energy around a newly dating couple. Like, and I keep on thinking this is, I know Taylor Swift is famously quiet about her relationships. She seems like she’s coming out in a big way here, which I like. But at the same time, how would you feel if a casual relationship that you were in was under the microscope like this?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:44] Oh, I mean, please, that that sounds like an absolute nightmare.
Paul Scheer [00:35:47] It really does.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:49] But it’s you know, I think, though, that sadly, both of these people are under a spotlight. Obviously, Taylor Swift, so much more. But I do believe, based solely on what I’ve come to learn in the last few weeks, that Travis Kelsey’s dating life would also be noteworthy because he is one of the top people in the NFL.
Paul Scheer [00:36:13] Is that so? Is he dating? Does anyone have any notes on this? I don’t know who he is dating. He seems like a real lovely guy. Our family, we’ve adopted the Kansas City Chiefs. Not before.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:22] Oh, nice.
Paul Scheer [00:36:23] Before this, because there’s a lot of issues like I we were the Rams house and then June.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:30] Can I ask you a question? And admittedly, admittedly, I am not a sports fan. Any sports fan? I don’t follow any sports. I’m not. I’m a sport. I’m not a sporto. But and so I can tend to look at some things cynically. And I admit this is a cynical point of view. Is there any part of this, football’s reputation has been so terrible for these last bunch of years, CTE, concussions, concussion protocols, people having heart attacks and almost dying on the field, people like all of this crazy negative stuff around it. Isn’t all of this somehow solving football’s greatest problems from an optics point of view and reminding it, it’s making football synonymous with pop star love in a way that is is kind of a masterstroke of crisis management.
Paul Scheer [00:37:27] Oh, absolutely. And the only thing I would say about that is it’s tricky because Taylor Swift doesn’t need to improve her image. Right?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:39] Not at all.
Paul Scheer [00:37:39] And, you know, they’re looking out. They’re getting to like they’re getting the crest of this wave, which is why I think a lot of people feel like, is it publicity? Because Taylor Swift has her concert movie coming out, which is already sold out. It’s already gigantic.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:50] I don’t think she she’s yeah, she’s just made $1,000,000,000 off of this tour. She’s not, she doesn’t need that kind of publicity, anything.
Paul Scheer [00:37:56] But I will say. Better business for her concert movie. Oh, yeah. I mean, it is going to benefit on some level. Like, she is getting like, the only thing that people watch. It seems like is sports as far as audience tuning in and Yellowstone reruns on CBS. But that energy, I think I mean, look she could be getting shrapnels the like she shouldn’t even need it but like she could be any shrapnel, you know.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:29] No it’s kind of, it’s incredible the way it has captured the zeitgeist around a couple in a way that I just don’t know, in a way that I feel like is from the days of old. You know what I mean, like this feels like it, you know? Yeah. This feels like old school Hollywood match making less so like, contemporary, like dating. And now this feels.
Paul Scheer [00:38:54] Yeah. And can I say something else that I feel like maybe I don’t wanna be a fuddy duddy here, but they’re both 33. Like, it’s not weird. It’s not like, you know, it’s.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:03] It’s great on all those.
Paul Scheer [00:39:05] Yeah. I mean, like, you know, I think that sometimes we have these, like, bigger relationships versus like, Oh, he’s 57 and she’s 20, you know, and like, you know, and, and it’s I feel like we’re they’re like, they, they seem like down home people like there’s something about it. It all checks all these boxes. It’s like a very. Like you said, it’s pop star love but she’s an adult. They’re like they just for sure feel like they’re in their own personhood. I don’t know. It’s very it’s an interesting.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:30] I’m very curious to see how this plays out because it is so public. Yeah. In in a way that is in a way that I again I guess I just wouldn’t wish on anyone.
Paul Scheer [00:39:40] I don’t want it to be over and if it is even Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:43] Yeah. Even prior to this relationship, I felt I felt bad for Taylor Swift’s prior. Like the actor she was dating. That Joe. Yes. Yes. Oh, Whenever his last name. Alwyn. Yes, Joe Alwyn is tough because I’m like, oh, they’re they are under such a microscope There is that to me seems brutal. And this this now seems like that times 100.
Paul Scheer [00:40:08] I know we talked about it here on the show, or maybe we didn’t. I didn’t even talk to you about it privately. But, you know, I was going a little bit on the deep dive of Taylor Swift like I do. And the one who got to who got bit the hardest was Tom Hiddleston. I mean. Tom Hiddleston Yeah, really took it on the chin and, and you know, and I think has pivoted in a way to just kind of having to avoid talking about and he’s now married and all this other stuff. But man, oh man it’s, you know, it’s hard it’s hard to you know, you don’t want to be on the other side of that. You don’t wanna have a song written about you. That’s the thing that I’m always thinking about too.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:40] Oh, yeah, sure. I would say that it’s really interesting. It’s a it’s a very it is in a time when I feel like most of our narratives are being supplied by, like, reality television. Yeah, like Scandoval or something like that. You’re right. This is happening for everybody live at a game like this doesn’t feel like editing. This doesn’t feel like producers are monkeying around. This feels earnest and honest in a way that people I think are really responding to. And it’s because, I don’t know the last time something like this caught this much fire.
Paul Scheer [00:41:18] Well, it’s like you have you have literally the biggest music star in the world and one of the most popular football teams. And, you know, a legendary Super Bowl champion like, yeah, great, funny guy. Like, it’s a perfect mix. It’s like it’s not even it’s not even Hollywood. It’s not Hollywood. It’s music and sports.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:39] That’s what’s interesting.
Paul Scheer [00:41:40] I think it’s actually I think it actually is more interesting because it’s not Hollywood, you know, it’s but whatever. Anyway, you know.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:47] People want to know what two middle aged podcasters have to say about that.
Paul Scheer [00:41:51] And by the way, no snark. We were just coming at this really from a very general nice place.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:56] Oh, yeah. I mean, listen, I want I want, I want love. I also want everybody to leave them alone. Yes. But I also want to be like the football still seems fucking bananas, but. Okay.
Paul Scheer [00:42:07] Yeah. I mean, look, it’s. It’s tricky. It’s. It’s tricky, too, when I see pictures of him, like leaving her apartment, you know, it’s like it’s a lot of a lot of energy that you don’t want. But I also would imagine that he actually has the best energy for it because he’s actually funny and she’s got her whole thing escaping in popcorn machines or whatever.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:24] Yeah, Yeah.
Paul Scheer [00:42:24] You know, she’s got her shit figured out.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:26] That seems fascinating to me.
Paul Scheer [00:42:28] Oh, I love it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:28] Some day I hope they auction off all of those things. Oh, like an auction of things that Taylor Swift was in. I mean, like a janitors. What was that? A trash can set up? Something like cleaning supplies was the one that I saw.
Paul Scheer [00:42:43] Yeah, the cleaning is the big one. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. All right, so let’s get into it. Last song. Is this the last song?
Scott Sonne [00:42:51] Last song from Taylor Swift herself. Let’s–no, okay.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:55] Wow, wow, wow. Well, that brings. That does bring something up. If you are in a band and you want to write us a song. What? God damn it. Why not? Yeah, I’m looking at. I’m looking at you mannequin pussy. I’m looking at you other bands who are very sweet to say that they listen to the podcast when they’re on tour in the van or on the bus if you’re listening to the show, write us a theme song.
Paul Scheer [00:43:18] Yes. Yes. All right. What do we got?
Scott Sonne [00:43:21] Last but not least, this is from the Action Jackson 5.
Music [00:43:28] How did this get made? Trashcan fires in Jacob’s Ladder. Started out bad. Now it’s getting badder. Jason Statham. Angelino. Down at the lock that is where I seen her. How Did This Get Made? Tall John Scheer and Jason Zouks. Balcony mobs is about to puke. June Daine asks what’s its mission. And where the buck stops is another question. How did this get made? How did this get made? How did this get made?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:34] Wow.
Paul Scheer [00:44:34] Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:35] Wow. That’s good. I mean, that that’s great.
Paul Scheer [00:44:38] That. That is the one that if we had to pick. And I’m going, that’s my vote, because I think it encapsulates everything that we’ve been talking about. Vocals in the front. Right. Yeah, we did that length. Great. Funny.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:51] Minute long.
Paul Scheer [00:44:52] Minute long.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:55] Clever, clever lyrics and it’s got a very up tempo It’s got an up vibe. It’s not like it’s not really fast or anything like that, but it’s got an up vibe and I like that I, I, you know, I love a big heavy riff and, you know, hard rock kind of song. It almost, almost tipped into like late nineties rap rock.
Paul Scheer [00:45:17] Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:17] And I and I wasn’t mad at it. I was like, okay, when the guy comes in, it goes and don’t even ask where the buck starts. I was like, Oh, is there going to be a rap rock breakdown?
Paul Scheer [00:45:28] That’s what I kind of loved about it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:30] Like, yeah, I wanted it.
Paul Scheer [00:45:32] Well, here’s the thing we’ve done. We’ve done our like hip hop version. We had our traditional like podcast song. Like when we first had our first podcast song, everyone, every song kind of sounded the same a little bit, right? They had a similar vibe to it, and now it’s gotten a little bit more interesting. But I feel like this this stamp new territory, it laid it down. Let’s hear it again. This is hear a little bit.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:56] I love I love a metal I love a metal hard rock metal theme and the mix is a great addition.
Music [00:46:06] [Action Jackson 5 Theme]
Paul Scheer [00:46:24] I love that.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:25] Great.
Paul Scheer [00:47:10] Wow.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:10] Wow. Incredible. Yeah, I loved it. I liked it even more the second time around.
Paul Scheer [00:47:15] I mean, I’m in. I like.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:17] Here’s my note. Here’s my note to the Action Jackson 5. My only note would be instead of the long ish fade out, pull down that there be a punchier end, you know, almost like how bam, bam, bam, bam, you know, like something that’s like a real cut off point so we can start the show. Yeah, that’s really it because the the decay in between for us, the decay is a problem.
Paul Scheer [00:47:44] I agree. Yes. I mean, look, this. This is great. I hope this inspires people right now, too.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:49] It’s a great one. Yeah. Love it. Yeah, I love it. You know, it’s almost got like it’s got a motley Crue style lyric and vocal performance from the Action Jackson 5, but like, a heavy scuzzy, you know, hard rock kind of vibe. Yeah. Which I dug.
Paul Scheer [00:48:07] I’m in. I like this. Jason. This is a great experiment. We are. We’re in no rush. We’re not going to replace. We don’t even know we’re going to replace it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:14] We might never replace it. How about that? Or we’re replacing it tomorrow.
Paul Scheer [00:48:19] Boom. And that’s it. And it’s going to be that first one with the accordion. And that’s and that’s it’s the polka. And that’s to spite Scott. And I’m sorry we had to do it to Scott like this, but so sorry. Scott.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:29] Yeah. Scott, fuck you.
Paul Scheer [00:48:30] All right. We will be back next week as Jason, we finally discuss what movie you were thinking about. A lot of people have weighed in about this.
Paul Scheer [00:48:42] Thank you, Jason. Thank you, Jake. That was a great theme song right there, Jake. You ever think about submitting? I mean, as a grind, punk, I love it. Anyway, thank you to all of you who submitted the theme song and let yourself be put up to that scrutiny, which you didn’t even know was going to happen. We appreciate everyone who takes time to make music for us. We truly do. We love it. And remember, if you want to make a theme song, send it to us a HowDidThisGetMade@Earwolf.com. Remember to see us out on the road. Tickets are available at HDTGM.com. Go get those tickets now. And now that we got Bats out of the way, let’s talk about next week’s movie. We are going from winged beasts to Italian priests. That’s right. Next week we are watching 2023’s, oh, it feels like yesterday, The Pope’s Exorcist starring Russell Crowe, a movie inspired by actual files from the Vatican’s chief exorcist. You heard me right, the Vatican’s chief exorcist. Here’s a short breakdown of the plot. The Vatican’s leading exorcist investigates the possession of a child and uncovers a conspiracy the Vatican has been trying to keep secret. Anyway. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 48% on the tomatometer. Catherine Bray of Empire magazine writes, “It’s not just the demonic possession victims whose eyes will be rolling in the back of their skulls. None of this should work, really. And yet the film just about gets away with it, proving the Lord truly does move in mysterious ways.” I couldn’t agree with you more, Catherine. Let’s listen to the trailer for The Pope’s The Exorcist.
Trailer Audio [00:50:07] Oh my God.
Trailer Audio [00:50:08] There’s a great evil that only you can help.
Trailer Audio [00:50:11] Inspired by the actual files. The Vatican’s chief exorcist.
Trailer Audio [00:50:20] I think it’s the church is hiding something. You’ve been played. Who will defend you? My faith does not require defense. The Pope’s Exorcists selected are in theaters April 14th.
Paul Scheer [00:50:36] All right, people, you’re going to have a blast. It’s on Netflix. Remember to rate and review the show. It helps. And if you listen to us on Apple Podcasts, make sure you are following us. Tell your friends. Visit us on social media @HDTGM. And a big thank you to our producers, Scott Sonne and Molly Reynolds and our movie picking producer Avril Halley, our engineers Casey Holford and Rich Garcia, and Jess Cisneros, who makes those amazing social media videos. We will see you next week for The Pope’s Exorcist.
November 26, 2023
Guest Conan O’Brien
Conan O’Brien (Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss the 1993 romantic comedy and the final installment in the series, Look Who’s Talking Now starring John Travolta and Kirstie Alley.