EP. 179 — Sasheer is Creating Her Own Seasonal Beverage Party

Sasheer [00:00:13] Nicole. 

Nicole [00:00:14] How are you? 

Sasheer [00:00:16] I am good. How are you? 

Nicole [00:00:18] Listen, I am good. I just had a weird Atkin’s bar. 

Sasheer [00:00:25] Oh. 

Nicole [00:00:27] I don’t know. I was hungry, and I wanted chocolate, but I didn’t want, like, a chocolaty chocolate thing. So, I ate one of those, and it was weird. And then I also eat a Quito chocolate thing that my friend had in the freezer. And I don’t know. I don’t know, Sasheer. I think I made some bad choices. 

Sasheer [00:00:48] Oh, no. Like too much chocolate or, like, protein, or whatever is in there? 

Nicole [00:00:55] Too much artificianal– “Artificianal?” Am I dying? Artificial sweetener. 

Sasheer [00:01:03] For some reason, I thought Atkins wasn’t a thing anymore. 

Nicole [00:01:07] Oh, it’s still a thing. They make lots of money. 

Sasheer [00:01:11] Oh, wow. All right. 

Nicole [00:01:12] Dr. Atkin’s isn’t a thing anymore because he’s dead. He passed right away. But I feel like he fell off a Segway–or maybe that the inventor of Segway. Someone died on a Segway. How did Dr. Atkins die? 

Kimmie [00:01:33] Oh. He fell and hit his head on an icy New York sidewalk. 

Sasheer [00:01:37] Oh no.

Nicole [00:01:38] Dr. Atkins? 

Kimmie [00:01:39] Yeah. 

Nicole [00:01:40] Oh no. That’s sad. 

Sasheer [00:01:43] Damn. That’s sad. 

Nicole [00:01:45] And then the inventor of Segway–how did he die? 

Kimmie [00:01:48] That one, I think, on a Segway. Let’s see. I think he drove off a cliff on accident. Yeah, on a Segway. 

Nicole [00:01:59] Oh no! You know, I’m probably sure that, like, that’s the best-case scenario for someone who invented the Segway. 

Sasheer [00:02:07] Yeah. Just right off into the sunset. 

Nicole [00:02:10] Like Thelma and Louise? Have you ever ridden a Segway? 

Sasheer [00:02:16] Yeah. I have. Not on, like, the street. I think it was always, like, a little goof. Like, it was in an office building. And it’s like, “Can I try that?” And then I try it and get off. But I’ve never done, like, a Segway tour or traveled far on a Segway. Have you? 

Nicole [00:02:33] I don’t think I’ve ever been on a Segway. I’ve driven a golf cart, which is not the same. Two very separate vehicles. 

Sasheer [00:02:46] I actually think the Segway should be what people use as opposed to, like, a scooter when you’re renting something to go around because it seems safer. A scooter is so thin. And I feel like you could fall off it really easy. But Segway–you have to work real hard to fall off that. I think it’s, like, sturdy. I think the tires are kind of meant for the road, or they can be for the road. 

Nicole [00:03:11] How fast does the Segway go? 

Sasheer [00:03:15] This I don’t know. Kimmie’s on it.

Nicole [00:03:18] I just think you look a little weird on Segways. 

Sasheer [00:03:22] Weirder than how you look on a scooter? 

Nicole [00:03:26] Wait. Are you talking a razor scooter or a sit-down scooter? 

Sasheer [00:03:28] Like, a razor scooter. 

Nicole [00:03:30] Okay. I would prefer a Segway than a razor scooter. 

Sasheer [00:03:35] Right? 

Nicole [00:03:38] Scooters are crazy. Like, truly wild. But also, like, a treat if you think about it because it’s like what if there is a world where we stop taking cars places and we scoot everywhere. 

Sasheer [00:03:48] But like, for far distances, you need a car. You can’t scoot to the next state. 

Nicole [00:03:55] Try hard enough, you probably can. Scooter stations. Rest stations. Yeah, you’re right. If you’re crossing state lines, you can’t take a scooter. 

Sasheer [00:04:05] Wait, Kimmie, did you find out how fast they go? 

Kimmie [00:04:08] “A standard Segway goes 12.5 miles an hour.”

Nicole [00:04:11] That’s not fast at all. 

Sasheer [00:04:14] Well, how fast are those, like, Lime scooters going? 

Kimmie [00:04:16] Let’s see. I don’t think much faster. 

Sasheer [00:04:20] ‘Cause sometimes people are in the street, like, taking left turns at intersections. That’s so annoying. 

Kimmie [00:04:25] “They max at 15 to 17 miles an hour.” 

Sasheer [00:04:29] A little faster than a Segway. 

Nicole [00:04:31] Yeah, just a little bit faster, which is crazy because there’s, like, less stuff there to brace you when you fall down. 

Sasheer [00:04:38] Yeah. 

Nicole [00:04:39] I watched one video on Instagram of a woman flying off the scooter. Hilarious. Very funny. She gets up. She’s not hurt. Instagram is like, “This is all you want. You only want to watch people fall down.” And they served me a terrible video that I laughed and laughed at. It’s a very old woman taking a cart on an escalator going down, but she should not have taken the cart there. And she does a full front flip over the cart. It’s not funny, but it’s really funny. 

Sasheer [00:05:14] How do people know to film? 

Nicole [00:05:16] Oh, this looked like security cam footage. Yeah. So, I think someone’s, like, watching the camera, and they were like, “I can’t help her. I have to just watch this.” 

Sasheer [00:05:28] That’s great. People falling down is fine as long as they don’t get hurt. I mean, there was a whole TV show. America’s Funniest Home Videos? Mostly falling down. 

Nicole [00:05:36] You said “was.” “Is.” It still exists. 

Sasheer [00:05:39] What? 

Nicole [00:05:40] Carlton hosts it. Alfonso Ribeiro. 

Sasheer [00:05:46] Are you kidding me? 

Nicole [00:05:47] I would never joke about America’s Funniest Home Videos. 

Sasheer [00:05:51] This is no laughing matter. 

Nicole [00:05:55] A. V. A. A. V. V? 

Sasheer [00:05:59] No. AFV. What channel is it?

Nicole [00:06:02] I believe still ABC. 

Sasheer [00:06:08] I would love to keep watching it. I had no idea it was still on. I can’t believe I’ve missed years of this. 

Nicole [00:06:16] “I would love to keep watching this.” I don’t think anyone’s ever said that about America’s Funniest Home Videos. “Me? I would love to keep watching it.” 

Sasheer [00:06:25] “I would love to keep watching this.” 

Nicole [00:06:27] I can’t remember where I was, but it was me and several friends gathered around a television just watching America’s Funniest Home Videos and laughing so hard. 

Sasheer [00:06:38] I mean, it’s great. It’s funny. 

Nicole [00:06:40] It really is just very funny. And then someone, like, wins at the end? 

Sasheer [00:06:49] Yeah. 

Nicole [00:06:50] There’s like Video of the Day or something? 

Sasheer [00:06:53] Maybe. Or does America vote on something or no? 

Nicole [00:06:55] Oh, America might vote. 

Sasheer [00:06:58] On the funniest video? And then, yeah, they would bring that person to the studio and… 

Nicole [00:07:02] Yes. And they’d be like, “Look. That’s that child that ate a rat.” Everyone’s like, “Wooo!”

Sasheer [00:07:14] “There’s that child who ate a rat. Is he okay?” 

Nicole [00:07:22] Wait. Who hosted before Carlton? 

Sasheer [00:07:25] Well, Bob Saget hosted for years, but clearly, I don’t know the history of this show anymore. So, I don’t know if there was someone after Bob Saget. 

Nicole [00:07:35] I believe there was someone in between Alfonso and Bob. 

Sasheer [00:07:39] Look at all these people. 

Nicole [00:07:41] Wait Bob hosted for a very long time. 

Kimmie [00:07:44] I think that’s how long he was alive. 

Nicole [00:07:49] Oh. I see. 

Sasheer [00:07:51] “Daisy Fuentes?” 

Nicole [00:07:52] I guess America’s Funniest Home Videos was not around in 1956. 

Sasheer [00:07:58] I mean, I also wouldn’t be surprised. 

Nicole [00:08:00] Yeah, Daisy Fuentes is… 

Sasheer [00:08:04] “D. L. Hughley?”

Nicole [00:08:06] “Gary Owens?” 

Sasheer [00:08:08] Wait, which Gary Owens? 

Nicole [00:08:09] Not the Gary Owens you’re thinking of. 

Sasheer [00:08:12] No, because I don’t recognize this man. 

Nicole [00:08:16] “John Fugelsang.” I’m not sure who that is. 

Sasheer [00:08:20] He looks familiar. 

Nicole [00:08:22] “Tom Bergeron.” He does Dancing with the Stars now, maybe? 

Kimmie [00:08:29] I think he did. I don’t know if he does anymore. 

Sasheer [00:08:31] ‘Cause Tyra does it now. 

Kimmie [00:08:31] Yeah. 

Nicole [00:08:35] “Tyra…?” 

Sasheer [00:08:36] Banks! 

Nicole [00:08:37] Dancing with the Stars? 

Kimmie [00:08:39] She’s a host. 

Nicole [00:08:40] Wow. I didn’t see that one coming. Wait, where is Daisy Fuentes now? 

Sasheer [00:08:46] Doesn’t she have a line of purses? 

Nicole [00:08:50] I believe she does have a line of purses that sold at Kmart. Is Kmart still a store? 

Sasheer [00:08:54] I don’t think so. 

Nicole [00:08:56] Wow. Times have changed. “Kmart.com!” 

Sasheer [00:09:00] Oh. This is an active website. 

Nicole [00:09:03] Kmart has Reeboks? Is there a Kmart near us? Can we go to Kmart? That one’s closed. 

Sasheer [00:09:20] A lot of them say, “permanently closed.” Maybe it’s more of an online store, but why would you buy anything online from Kmart? 

Nicole [00:09:26] Why would you ever go to Kmart.com? 

Kimmie [00:09:29] Looks like there’s one in Costa Mesa if you want. But I’m not sure. 

Nicole [00:09:31] I’m not going to Costa Mesa. 

Kimmie [00:09:33] Understandable. 

Nicole [00:09:35] I don’t even know where that is. But also, that store looked like it had wall to wall carpeting. Are you kidding, Kmart? 

Sasheer [00:09:42] Interesting. 

Nicole [00:09:43] Yeah, they all seem to be really closed. 

Sasheer [00:09:46] Yeah, a lot of permanently closed locations. 

Nicole [00:09:48] Wow. Seems like they should just get bought up by, like, target or something. Okay, here’s the craziest thing. Kmart was here before Target. How did Target usurp Kmart? 

Sasheer [00:10:00] Maybe the merge with CVS. I don’t know why that would be a big deal, but– 

Nicole [00:10:04] Target merged with CVS? 

Sasheer [00:10:05] Or they have, like, a partnership, right? ‘Cause there are CVSs in Targets. 

Nicole [00:10:09] Oh, wow. I don’t think I knew this. I grew up with one of those stores called Caldor. 

Sasheer [00:10:17] I have never heard of that. 

Nicole [00:10:19] I loved Caldor. And then there was Bradlees, and I loved Bradlees. 

Sasheer [00:10:25] Do you know Meijer? 

Nicole [00:10:26] Fred Meyer? 

Sasheer [00:10:29] I don’t think so. 

Nicole [00:10:31] Fred Meyer might be a Portland thing. 

Sasheer [00:10:34] It’s just Meijer. It’s like M.E.I.J.E.R? 

Nicole [00:10:38] Oh, yes, I do know Meijer. That’s what I call it. Meijer.

Sasheer [00:10:44] Meijer.

Nicole [00:10:48] It is crazy that all these stories just get, you know, taken over by the big bull’s eye. 

Sasheer [00:10:55] By the big bull’s eye. They all got a target on their back. 

Nicole [00:10:58] They really do. And then Target comes for them. But I do love Target, Sasheer. There is nothing like taking a Xanax and walking around Target like nothing is wrong in the world. It has everything you need. You don’t have to leave for a while. You’re welcome at Target. After many a tooth drama and trauma, I go to Target, and it’s a nice time. Soothing, therapeutic. Also, Sasheer, I got a fabulous swimsuit cover up at Target. 

Sasheer [00:11:36] Ooh, nice. 

Nicole [00:11:38] Sometimes Target really comes through with the fashion.

Sasheer [00:11:42] I have some nice clutch bags I got from Target. 

Nicole [00:11:45] Clutches? 

Sasheer [00:11:46] I need a clutch in a clutch! And it was Target! 

Nicole [00:11:50] Target coming through in a clutch for a clutch. It was from the evening, right? 

Sasheer [00:11:58] Yes.

Nicole [00:11:59] Who would have thought you go to Target for evening wear? 

Sasheer [00:12:02] Yes! And they just had, like, nice, basic clutches. I think the brand was, like, Universal Standard or something like that. 

Nicole [00:12:10] Yes. And they had these Ava and Viv jeans that fit my butt so nicely. 

Sasheer [00:12:18] Ooh, nice. Wow. Target. 

Nicole [00:12:26] And then they got the cool teen line, Wild Fable. 

Sasheer [00:12:29] Oh, I didn’t know. Why do you know about the teen line? 

Nicole [00:12:36] Because sometimes I dress like a child. Yesterday I was dressed like a child. I was wearing two tone jeans with big flower patches on them and then a ribbed sweater with heart buttons on it. I’m just a child. And then I went out to dinner, and there was these two women in the bathroom who were talking. They were like, “Yeah, I thought he was, like, our age.” “Yeah, 25 because we’re 25.” And then I came out of the bathroom, I was like,” I am dressed like a child. These are my mommies. They look so much older than me.” 

Sasheer [00:13:11] Well, you’re going to be forever young. 

Nicole [00:13:13] Yes. “Forever young! Nicole’s gonna be forever young!” I did a bad melody. 

Sasheer [00:13:26] It was close. 

Nicole [00:13:27] Thank you. 

Sasheer [00:13:28] Yeah. 

Kimmie [00:13:29] Can I ask the question? 

Nicole [00:13:30] Please. 

Kimmie [00:13:31] If you guys could stay one age forever, is there an age that you think you would want to be? 

Sasheer [00:13:35] Whoa. 

Nicole [00:13:36] Oh, my God. 

Sasheer [00:13:39] This is hard because I feel like I enjoy each age more the next year. So, I don’t want to stop at an age that I’ve already experienced because I feel like the better years are to come. 

Nicole [00:13:55] Wow. That was so lovely. Oh, my God. My answer sucks in comparison. 

Sasheer [00:14:06] What were you going to say? 

Nicole [00:14:07] I mean, I don’t want to say any age either because life hasn’t been great and I’m hoping it gets better. 

Sasheer [00:14:17] Bullshit. Okay. 

Nicole [00:14:21] I’m hoping that the next year is better than the year before. 

Sasheer [00:14:27] Your life’s been shit. Is that what you said? 

Nicole [00:14:31] Did I say life’s been shit? It hasn’t been great. I mean my personal life. My professional life is great, and I think it’s just going to get better and better. But, like, my personal life–I would very much like it to be better than what it’s been. 

Sasheer [00:14:47] Okay. 

Nicole [00:14:49] You know? Maybe I find love in one of the years coming. Maybe somebody is going to love my old, wrinkly body. 

Sasheer [00:14:58] You never know. Getting the late in life love. 

Nicole [00:15:01] Hopefully I find love before I’m all wrinkly and shit. Or not? I don’t know. Or maybe I don’t find love. And then maybe I just die alone. 

Sasheer [00:15:11] You’ve got friends. 

Nicole [00:15:12] Well, friends can’t do what a lover can do. I have never had a friend tickle my clit… happily. 

Sasheer [00:15:23] Unhappily? Yes. 

Nicole [00:15:26] Seriously? Yes. 

Sasheer [00:15:29] Begrudgingly? Sure. 

Nicole [00:15:33] Wait. Kimmie, is there an age that you would want to stay? 

Kimmie [00:15:36] I’m also comfortable with aging, but I felt like 28 was really nice. Sometimes my parents told me they forget they’re not 19 still. Like, they feel the same now as they did when they were 19. Their body is older. I think for me that’s 27 or 28. I feel like that’s when I hit a moment where, like, my brain is always going to be around that age. I feel like I really matured those years. 

Nicole [00:15:59] Oh! Well, I mean, we’re talking brain stuff, I think I stopped evolving at probably 20… Or maybe 15. I think I’m pretty… Not, like, immature, but, like, I’m still a pretty whimsical person. I don’t really think I’m much of an adult. 

Sasheer [00:16:22] I think I was an adult when I was a kid, so I think I was 35 when I was, like, six years old. 

Nicole [00:16:29] I would love to have met business baby Sasheer. 

Sasheer [00:16:36] She loved to organize. We would go to grocery stores, and the bottom shelf of any aisle–if it was unorganized–I would straighten it up. 

Nicole [00:16:46] Really? 

Sasheer [00:16:49] If there were, like, messy paper towel rolls, I would just, like, stack them back how they’re supposed to be. 

Nicole [00:16:54] That’s very adorable. 

Sasheer [00:16:56] Yeah, I like to order. 

Nicole [00:16:58] So cute. Yeah. That’s not my vibe at all. I’d be like, “Yes! More mess!” Oh, I don’t love mess but live in mess–if that makes sense. Like, for a hot two weeks because I was busy, Jenga’d all of my laundry. I did my laundry, folded it, took it to my room, and then stacked them on top of each other, much like Jenga, and then would pull things out very slowly every morning to get dressed instead of just putting it away. 

Sasheer [00:17:34] The last step. 

Nicole [00:17:35] Yeah, but I did it all last night. I put almost everything away. I do have to fold some of my athletic wear. And then I moved stuff out of drawers. I’m, like, getting better at organizing. So, you know that, like, little dresser in my hallway upstairs? So, I put all my sweatpants and sleepwear in there. And what was in there? Suits. 

Sasheer [00:18:01] You had suits in there? 

Nicole [00:18:02] Yes. I should hang up suits and put them somewhere far away. I’m never wearing a suit. 

Sasheer [00:18:08] Yeah, they shouldn’t be, like, the most accessible thing. 

Nicole [00:18:11] Yes! Silly, silly girl I am. 

Sasheer [00:18:13] Silly girl. Laundry is something I want to outsource because I don’t need… Maybe I need a housekeeper. I don’t know. But I want someone to come over and just do my laundry. I feel like I spend so much time washing. And then you take that load out, you put it in the dryer. You put another load in the wash, and then you take that one away–put that in the dryer. You put another load in. And then you fold all those things, and then you put them away. I want someone to know where everything has to go. I want them to know which things need to be washed cold, which things need to be hung dry, and then just do it for me. 

Nicole [00:18:50] Here’s the thing. You can get a housekeeper to do that, like, twice a week. They will make mistakes, and you will get annoyed. 

Sasheer [00:18:59] Yes! That’s the thing. And that’s why I don’t like handing things off to other people because I’m like, “Well, I’ll just– I know how to do it.” 

Nicole [00:19:06] I will say, my assistant has changed– I do not answer emails anymore. And nobody has yelled at me about missing emails because she, like, bothers me for answers. It’s great. But my cleaning lady–I do have to set some stuff up for her. What a bougie conversation, you know? But this is where we are in life. I’m literally too busy to do some things in my house. So, it is nice that I have some help, but she doesn’t know where things go. I know where things go. And then I get upset when things get moved because I’m like, “That’s not where it goes. I have a system.” And even though it looked like Jenga, it was a system. 

Sasheer [00:19:49] Yeah. It’s hard. 

Nicole [00:19:51] It is. It’s hard to be a working professional. It’s also hard to be an unworking person. I think just existing sometimes is really hard. 

Sasheer [00:20:02] For sure. 

Nicole [00:20:06] At dinner last night, there was this man who I think was, like, not having a great time mental health wise, but, like, we’ve all been there. And he threw a pumpkin in the street and dirt on the sidewalk. 

Sasheer [00:20:21] Okay. 

Nicole [00:20:22] I was with Tess, and Tess is like, “I don’t know. I think he’s getting out some aggression.” And I was like, “You know what? Yeah!” I was like, “Yeah! I hope they had a nice time, and I hope they felt better after that.” 

Sasheer [00:20:34] Yeah. 

Nicole [00:20:35] Because sometimes I’m like, “Yeah, I want to throw a pumpkin, too.” 

Sasheer [00:20:39] Yeah. We should go to those anger rooms. Is that what those things are called? 

Nicole [00:20:47] Yeah, where you break shit? I thought you were going to be like, “Do you want to go to a pumpkin patch?” And I was like, “Sasheer, we can’t throw pumpkins in a pumpkin patch.” 

Sasheer [00:20:54] If we buy them all, yes, we can! 

Nicole [00:20:57] LOL. Imagine we walk into a pumpkin patch like, “Give us the patch.” And then we just destroy all the pumpkins. I’ll go to one of those rooms where you break stuff. 

Sasheer [00:21:08] Yeah. That can be fun. 

Nicole [00:21:10] I think it’ll be a lot of fun. Get out some aggression. I threw something the other day ’cause I was mad. Oh, I think it was a towel. 

Sasheer [00:21:19] Okay. Low stakes.

Nicole [00:21:22] Oh, yeah. Very low stakes. I’m not going to throw, like, something that’s going to break ’cause then I have to clean it up, and I’ll be even angrier. 

Sasheer [00:21:31] I was talking to my therapist about the holidays, which can be loaded for pretty much everyone. And she was talking about re-parenting your inner child. And she was like, “Maybe there’s some new traditions you can come up with around this time that’ll make your inner child happy since you didn’t get some stuff when you were younger.” And I was trying to think, “What’s a tradition?” ‘Cause I don’t do anything, really. I don’t put Christmas lights up. Other than, like, eat other people’s food, I don’t do anything. Or, like, get a tree–just, like, avoidance for all of it. And I was like, “Well, what do I actually like in this time of year?” I really like hot chocolate. And I was like, “What if I do a hot beverage party?” 

Nicole [00:22:30] That’s nice! That’s a nice, fun thing to do. 

Sasheer [00:22:34] I can make hot chocolate, mulled wine, hot apple cider, hot toddies. 

Nicole [00:22:40] Oooh. 

Sasheer [00:22:42] Eggnog, even though it’s not hot. These are, like, holiday drinks, I guess. 

Nicole [00:22:45] I think that’s nice. 

Sasheer [00:22:47] Right? 

Nicole [00:22:48] Yeah! I mean, I don’t love birthdays, so that’s why I throw that big birthday party. It’s, like, I’ve only done it three years. 

Sasheer [00:22:58] That’s something. 

Nicole [00:22:59] Yeah. Yeah, I hate birthdays, and I don’t have a good reason. I think it’s because it’s attention that you get just for existing, and I’m like, “Give me attention for being adorable and funny.” 

Sasheer [00:23:15] You think you don’t get attention for that? 

Nicole [00:23:18] No, no, no. That’s good attention that I love. So, like, if I’m working and everyone’s like, “Ha ha ha. That’s funny,” you know, during a rehearsal or whatever, I’m like, “Yes, that’s the attention I love and need.” But when everyone’s like, “Happy birthday,” it’s like, “I didn’t do anything.” It just burns. That’s why I throw the party because we’re like, “Look, I threw a party. Now pay attention to me.”

Sasheer [00:23:35] Yeah. I like that.

Nicole [00:23:37] I like a hot beverage party or a seasonal beverage party. 

Sasheer [00:23:41] Yeah, right? Would you come?

Nicole [00:23:43] Of course I would come. Are you fucking kidding? What kind of question is that? Truly. 

Sasheer [00:23:51] I know you would. 

Nicole [00:23:53] I’ll come to every fucking party. 

Sasheer [00:23:54] Yay. Great. 

Nicole [00:23:56] What? “Zipline Pumpkin Smash?” 

Kimmie [00:24:01] I’ve been seeing these on the Internet, and this is the only one in Southern California. In Big Bear, they have a thing where you pay, and you can zipline and smash pumpkins. So, if you guys want to do some pumpkin smashing in the mountains, you’re more than welcome. 

Sasheer [00:24:13] But now I know for next time. For next year. 

Nicole [00:24:20] Since I have an assistant, I’m going to try to be more organized with activities because I do think I’d like to have gone to a pumpkin patch this fall. I want to go to–I think it’s called Descanso–Descanso gardens or something. They have a pretty winter holiday light thing that I want to go to. I just don’t know what things are happening until people post about them and then I’m like, “Oh, it’s too late for me to go.” 

Sasheer [00:24:49] That’s a good point. 

Nicole [00:24:50] And I want to see shows. 

Sasheer [00:24:52] Shows? Theatre?

Nicole [00:24:57] And then also, how do you figure out, like, what new restaurants are in town? 

Sasheer [00:25:02] That I don’t know. There must be, like, some sort of restaurant column in the paper. 

Nicole [00:25:11] What is this, 1942? A restaurant column in the paper? 

Sasheer [00:25:15] Well, I guess online. 

Nicole [00:25:18] Yeah, I guess so. I feel like I’ve asked this before on the podcast–people who live in Los Angeles to send me their food recommendations. 

Sasheer [00:25:27] Oh, yeah. 

Nicole [00:25:28] I still need to take you to Mother Wolf. It’s so good. 

Sasheer [00:25:31] Yes, please. 

Nicole [00:25:32] It’s Italian. And they have this white wine that is so fucking delicious. He, like, buys it all up from somewhere in Italy. And he’s explained it the two times I’ve went. And he remembered me from the first time. He was like, “Oh, you love that wine.” Also, I don’t know if he actually remembered me or if he was appeasing me. Do you know what I mean? I do that all the time. 

Sasheer [00:25:58] He’s like, “Oh, good to see you.” You know how you make little folders on Instagram? 

Nicole [00:26:05] Yes. 

Sasheer [00:26:06] I started a restaurant one. 

Nicole [00:26:09] So you’re going to have the list of the hot new restaurants? 

Sasheer [00:26:12] I’m going to try. So, one is called De Buena Planta. It’s a plant-based Mexican restaurant in Silver Lake. And it looks cute. 

Nicole [00:26:29] Perfect. I’ll have to take a look at that. 

Sasheer [00:26:32] There’s always a list. 

Nicole [00:26:33] There is always a list. But this other place I went to–Ka’teen–it’s very hard to get a reservation there. I think I told you about this. It’s the best fucking quesadilla I have ever had in my whole goddamn life. And they were like, “When it comes to the table, you fold it yourself.” And I was very, very angry. I said, “I must do it?” But Sasheer, so good. 

Sasheer [00:26:55] That’s how I feel about Korean barbecue. I’m like, “Really? You just put the grill in front of me, and I do all the work? 

Nicole [00:27:02] I feel you on that. But that’s why I love a Benihana because they do put a grill in front of you, but you don’t have to do anything. They put on a show, and you will be there for three hours. 

Sasheer [00:27:16] Yeah. We love a food show. 

Nicole [00:27:18] I just love when they light up that little onion volcano. 

Sasheer [00:27:22] That’s fun. 

Nicole [00:27:25] There should be more fun food time. Like, I love a movie with food. I love food with a show. I love Medieval Times. More of that, please. 

Nicole [00:29:24] Here is a fun thing. I started pole dancing again. 

Sasheer [00:29:27] Yay! 

Nicole [00:29:28] I had to take a little break because too busy and… I really hate that with physical things, if you don’t do them for a minute, you lose them. 

Sasheer [00:29:40] Yeah. 

Nicole [00:29:41] I, like, lost my pole set. So, I had to, like, relearn how to fucking do that all over again. 

Sasheer [00:29:49] That’s annoying. But was the relearning shorter than the actual learning? 

Nicole [00:29:54] Yes. It was way shorter. We did it twice, and I had it again. But I was like, “Oh, my God. I forgot how much this hurts my thighs.” Oh boy. 

Sasheer [00:30:05] Oh boy. I’m glad you’re back on the pole. 

Nicole [00:30:07] Thank you. I’m sad I ever got off the pole. I just want to stay on the pole. Oh, shit. I had a fucking question. A query. A quandary. And I can’t remember! Oh, what are you wearing? That’s right. I’ve been wanting to know what this outfit is. 

Sasheer [00:30:23] It’s a romper. My jean romper. 

Nicole [00:30:26] Where is this from? 

Sasheer [00:30:29] I got it at Beacon’s closet years ago. 

Nicole [00:30:31] So I have seen it. 

Sasheer [00:30:33] Many times, I’m sure. It’s a favorite. 

Nicole [00:30:38] Maybe I haven’t seen you in shorts in a while. 

Sasheer [00:30:41] That’s possible. 

Nicole [00:30:42] It’s been a lot of pants. 

Sasheer [00:30:48] I do love wearing pants. Yeah. 

Nicole [00:30:50] It’s a weird way to say that. “Been a lot of my pants. Too many pants.” 

Sasheer [00:30:55] Yeah, I do have my shorts drawer–I have a lot of shorts. But I haven’t worn a lot of them in a long time. I guess I just like wearing pants. 

Nicole [00:31:04] I think we go through phases in life. And, like, leggings in a skirt/dress had a hold on me for many years. And then I rediscovered jeans because they started making them with some more stretch, so they fit me a little bit better. But I can’t bear to get rid of my dresses, and I have so many of them. 

Sasheer [00:31:28] I get that. 

Nicole [00:31:31] Maybe I’ll go back to wearing dresses. I don’t know, Sasheer. I don’t know. It’s so confusing–fashion. 

Sasheer [00:31:39] Did I tell you about how many times I went to Crossroads to sell clothes? 

Nicole [00:31:43] I feel like you told me about one time but tell me about all of the times. 

Sasheer [00:31:47] I went once, sold a bunch of stuff, sold everything, and I was like, “Ooh, baby! This is good.” I love not having to bring stuff home. And then I was like, “You know what? I need to get rid of more shit.” So, I put more stuff in a bag, went to a different crossroads. They took hardly anything. Hardly a thing. And I was like, “Are you kidding me? I have good stuff.” Then I was like, “Should I go to another Crossroads, ” and I had a friend who was like, “Is the amount of time that you’re putting into this equaling the money that you’re going to get back?” No, it’s not at all because it took hours. There’s a wait to even get your stuff to be looked at. Then you have to wait while they’re looking at your stuff. Then you have to go get the assessment at the end of it. And then you, like, maybe can get your cash or store credit. And then you’re probably buying something ’cause you’re waiting hours in the store. 

Nicole [00:32:50] It’s a racket. 

Sasheer [00:32:50] Yes. That’s how they make their money. I’m just perusing while they’re looking at my stuff.

Nicole [00:32:58] I would sell stuff to Beacon’s Closet, and they would never take anything. And then sometimes Buffalo Exchange would take stuff. But it’s such a shock to your system that you’re like, “Sure, I’m getting rid of it–but I got it in the first place, so like, it’s fucking cool. So fucking take my shit.” 

Sasheer [00:33:16] “Take my shit! I have good taste.” 

Nicole [00:33:18] But then sometimes I’m like, “Maybe I do have bad taste?” Okay, here’s something that I really want to wear, and I think it’s in bad taste. I bought, like, a dressy vest to go under a suit. But I just want to wear it–just the vest and jeans. 

Sasheer [00:33:38] Oh, that might be cool. 

Nicole [00:33:41] Do you think? 

Sasheer [00:33:42] Yeah. Feels very 90s. A vest and jeans. I think I just saw a lady at a restaurant wearing it like that. And I was like, “Oh, my God. This is the coolest lady I’ve ever seen.” But also, I was like, “Is it dated? Does it look weird?” 

Sasheer [00:33:57] I don’t think so. 

Nicole [00:33:58] Okay, I’m going to do it! 

Sasheer [00:34:00] Yes! 

Nicole [00:34:01] Excited! 

Sasheer [00:34:03] I don’t know if I’m going to do this now, but I saw a pair of Crocs that I might get. 

Nicole [00:34:12] Ohhhh! Which ones? Welcome! 

Sasheer [00:34:17] Well, here’s the thing. You have to join a fricking raffle or something. 

Nicole [00:34:20] What? Crocs raffle? 

Sasheer [00:34:24] There’s, like, these Crocs that only get released at a certain time. 

Nicole [00:34:31] Oh, the Kuwatas? They look like Yeezys? 

Sasheer [00:34:33] Yeah. 

Nicole [00:34:33] Yeah. The drawing for the Kuwatas is open. 

Sasheer [00:34:37] A drawing! And then you have to, like, sign up, and then you might get drawn? I’m like, “Why can’t I just buy it?” 

Nicole [00:34:43] Because they sold out. 

Sasheer [00:34:48] Make more. All these people like them. 

Nicole [00:34:51] How funny. Well, that’s how they’re keeping the allure and the mystery alive of that Croc. 

Sasheer [00:34:56] That’s true. 

Nicole [00:34:58] And you can’t put Jibbitz on that Croc. 

Sasheer [00:35:00] No, but I’m not in it for the Jibbitz. 

Nicole [00:35:03] I don’t understand. How else will people know that I like Sonic if not having a Sonic Jibbit on my leopard print Crocs that say, “Good Pussy.” How will they know I like the song WAP if not for my Megan Thee Stallion Cardi B WAP Jibbit? How will they know? Did I tell you I bought a Sonic rug? 

Sasheer [00:35:28] You did. Did it already deliver? 

Nicole [00:35:30] No. And I contacted the company, and nobody has reached out. 

Sasheer [00:35:35] Uh oh. 

Nicole [00:35:36] And I’m a little upset about it. I’m going to do a little bit more investigating at a later date–I don’t know–when I think about it again. 

Sasheer [00:35:45] But you found this on Instagram? 

Nicole [00:35:49] Yes, and I think I need to stop buying stuff from Instagram. 

Sasheer [00:35:53] It’s always possible it’s, like, one person is doing by hand. 

Nicole [00:35:58] Oh, you’re right, you’re right, you’re right. Maybe I’ll just send a gentle email to be like, “Hey, when will this ship? 

Sasheer [00:36:03] Yeah. 

Nicole [00:36:04] I also bought–I sent you the picture–an elephant shaped purse. It came. It’s huge. I can’t wait to carry it. It is so big, Sasheer. But the pouch where things go is so small. It’s a leather stuffed animal with a pouch for a whisper of a wallet. I’m just collecting dumb stuff because right now I’ve got, like, a little pouch on my keychain that looks like a metro card. I can’t wait to shove that in my elephant purse. I can’t wait to carry that purse. It is so dumb. I squealed. 

Sasheer [00:36:48] How small is the compartment? Like, what can you put in there? 

Nicole [00:36:52] So I can probably fit my wallet, my phone, my keys, and maybe a pouch for lip gloss. But then there’s a whole head, a trunk, and four legs that nothing can go in. And it has tusks. It is incredible. It is a fucking work of art. I am obsessed with it. 

Sasheer [00:37:16] I’m so glad. 

Nicole [00:37:17] I wish they had a pig one. 

Sasheer [00:37:20] Yeah, that’d be nice. 

Nicole [00:37:21] Oh, I love a pig. 

Sasheer [00:37:25] Did I send you that picture of Sarah Jessica Parker holding that pigeon purse? 

Nicole [00:37:31] Yes. 

Sasheer [00:37:34] In Just Like That. 

Nicole [00:37:35] Yes. And I loved it. 

Sasheer [00:37:37] And there’s no strap. It’s just you’re holding a pigeon. 

Nicole [00:37:40] That’s like a lot of– Oh, shit, I can’t remember the name of the designer. Oh, Judith Leiber purses. They’re, like, crystal hamburgers or french fries. You have to hold most of those. Some of them have straps, some of them don’t. They are so expensive. And I love them. I like silly fashion. Like Balenciaga–they have a garbage bag purse, and then they have a chip bag purse. 

Sasheer [00:38:11] Oh, that’s fun. 

Nicole [00:38:11] It’s great. I love it. I love fashion! Fashion can be fun! You know who has the most fun with fashion? Julia Fox. 

Sasheer [00:38:20] Oh, she’s having the best time. 

Nicole [00:38:22] She is funny. I like the way she speaks. And she did this video–she’s like, “I bleached my eyebrows because it’s triggering for my son’s father.” 

Sasheer [00:38:36] Oh, God. 

Nicole [00:38:38] It made me laugh so hard. I was like, “You, ma’am, are truly a dream.” I love her. 

Sasheer [00:38:46] Wait, the bleached eyebrows are triggering…?

Nicole [00:38:52] For her child’s father. And I was like, “How funny that she maybe did it as fashion–he was like, ‘Oh, I hate.’ And she’s like, ‘You’ll never see me without them.’” She sometimes takes pictures next to, like, refrigerators in dirty rooms. She does this winged eyeliner tutorial that’s perfect. I want to meet her. I love her so much. I’m afraid I’ll meet her and she won’t be as interesting or as fun as I think she is. 

Sasheer [00:39:21] Do you think she still acts? Is she still an actress? 

Nicole [00:39:26] She’s a muse. 

Sasheer [00:39:28] She is a muse. “Uncut Gems.” But, like, if you were a producer, would you be like…? I guess people do want high profile people in their thing, so people will watch it. So, I feel like Julia would probably still get jobs. 

Nicole [00:39:46] I think so if she wanted to be doing that. She’s from making money doing other things. I mean, look at that movie–Hello Darling–with all that drama. 

Sasheer [00:39:53] Don’t Worry Darling. 

Nicole [00:39:55] Sure. 

Sasheer [00:39:56] Took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about. “Hello, darling!” 

Nicole [00:40:03] I knew “darling” was in there. 

Sasheer [00:40:05] Yes, Don’t Worry Darling. 

Nicole [00:40:07] A lot of drama. 

Sasheer [00:40:08] You know what? I still haven’t seen it. You know I want to. 

Nicole [00:40:11] I haven’t seen it either. I just didn’t read the best reviews about it. But you know what? Maybe I’ll watch it when it comes to home video–VOD–video on demand. When’s it going to be on VOD? After you left my house the other day, when my DVD player was still hooked up, I watched Eddie, the Whoopi Goldberg vehicle where she becomes the head coach of the New York Knicks, where she and Frank Langella first meet and fell in love in real life. It’s not as good as I remember. 

Sasheer [00:40:51] Oh no. You’ve described this movie before, and it sounds crazy. 

Nicole [00:40:55] Oh, it’s an insane movie. 

Sasheer [00:40:58] It feels like a lot of Whoopi Goldberg movies were, like, Mad Libs. 

Nicole [00:41:06] Yeah. 

Sasheer [00:41:07] Whoopi Goldberg as a cop with a dinosaur. Or like… Whoopi Goldberg–coach of the basketball team. 

Nicole [00:41:18] A limo driver who becomes the head coach of the New York Knicks. Also, she was in this movie called Fatal Beauty. 

Sasheer [00:41:27] I saw that. 

Nicole [00:41:28] An insane movie, and I love it. Did you watch it with me? 

Sasheer [00:41:32] Maybe. 

Nicole [00:41:34] I love it so much. 

Sasheer [00:41:36] Where she’s supposed to be Italian? 

Nicole [00:41:37] Yeah. Where they’re like, “Come on, Rizzoli. Eat your pasta.” And she’s like, “Yeah, yeah.” 

Sasheer [00:41:46] Oh, my god. 

Nicole [00:41:56] Should we answer queries of the world? 

Sasheer [00:41:59] Yeah. 

Tia [00:41:59] Hey, guys. I do not have a friendship question, but I have a pole dancing question. So, somebody just told me that all poles twist and that you don’t actually slide around the pole. The pole just moves. 

Nicole [00:42:18] Lies. 

Tia [00:42:19] Is this for real? Is this a real thing? I thought the pole was stationary. Please answer this. My name is Tia. I’m a really big fan. Love you guys. 

Nicole [00:42:30] Tia, you were lied to. Some poles spin, some poles are static, and some poles do both. 

Sasheer [00:42:38] Yeah. 

Nicole [00:42:38] Yeah. So, if you see someone stuck on a pole in, like, a position spinning, that’s usually a spin pole. And then if you see, like, low flow, which is a lot of floor work, that’s usually a static poll. And most strip clubs have static poles, but I’ve seen some spinning ones. 

Sasheer [00:42:56] Yeah, but some people are just skilled enough to spin really well on a static pole. 

Nicole [00:43:02] Yeah. Not I… 

Sasheer [00:43:06] But one day. 

Nicole [00:43:08] If I keep trying, one day I’ll be better. And that’s why I don’t want to stay this age. 

Sasheer [00:43:15] I see. I see. Because it’s going to get better. 

Nicole [00:43:18] It has to. 

Sasheer [00:43:19] An email! “Hey, Sasheer and Nicole. Thanks so much for the podcast and all the laughter you provide your fans with during this dystopian apocalypse. I am so grateful to have a wide and varied friendship circle. I moved away from my hometown fairly late in life and getting sober from drugs and alcohol. For context, my fam is pretty shitty. I mostly have written them off as people I don’t need or want in my life because they are fairly transphobic. I am trans and want to continue feeling good about myself and the success I’ve had in spite of generational trauma and abuse. This is a heavy parenthetical. I know. I’m sorry. I’m trying so hard to make this long story short.” 

Nicole [00:44:01] “So no fam. Awesome friends. Especially awesome when I got married several years ago and had a lot of cool queer punks on my side of the aisle whilst my wife’s large New York family paired with them. It was awesome. Less cool: Lots of my friends are getting married now and I want to show up for them in the same way, but I keep not getting invited to their weddings. I appreciate the cards and gifts I got several years ago, and I want to return the favor, but they all have big families of origin or live in different cities. I obviously can’t invite myself, and I’ve sent generous cards and gifts, of course. But real talk–it hurts my feelings a lot and makes me question the dynamics of this friendship to such a degree that it puts real distance between us. I don’t know if there’s a solution to this. I don’t want to make someone else’s celebration about me. But maybe there are some cishet people out there who might not think about inviting non-family to their celebrations. But I thought it was worth mentioning. I’m off social media for a while to sort out my feelings of what seems like familial envy and neglect, but at this point, I’m, like, 900 years old, so making friends is hard. Anywhose, I’m not even sure this makes sense. I’d love to hear your thoughts. Anyway, sad and salty.” So, they are saying they got married, and now their non-queer friends are getting married, and they’re not getting invited to their weddings? 

Sasheer [00:45:21] That seems like what’s happening. 

Nicole [00:45:23] Okay. Hmm. This is a tough one for me. 

Sasheer [00:45:30] I mean, I would hope these aren’t, like, best friends. I hope these are, like, just peripheral or, like, good friends. It depends on how big these weddings are. Like, some people only have so much room for their family, their partner’s family, and some friends. But there’s people I’m friends with that I didn’t get invited to their wedding, but I am friends with them. But, you know, maybe they’re like, “We only have, like, 150 people,” or whatever the hell, you know? You don’t know. And it sounds like maybe this person–their friends are their family since they kind of have protected themselves from their family. So, this person’s wedding was full of their friends, and so to not get invited to their friend’s wedding seems weird. So, I get the weirdness of it, but I guess we don’t know what these individual situations are. 

Nicole [00:46:38] Yeah, I think it might be a case of, like, it’s not you, per se. It’s just the situation of how many people can be at the wedding and things like that. But then it also doesn’t feel good to not have been a thought on someone’s mind. So, I do get that, but I think the way to maybe get around that is if someone’s getting married and you wish you were there, maybe you go out and celebrate with your partner in a way that celebrates love. 

Sasheer [00:47:11] Or if it’s, like, someone who is a friend, where you’re like, “It doesn’t make sense that I’m not there,” maybe you could reach out and be like, “Oh, I see you’re getting married. I can’t wait to see pictures,” or like, “I hope it goes well. I would love to celebrate you some time. Let me know when you’re back in town, and maybe we’ll get dinner,” or like, “I want to celebrate you in some way.” So, it does feel, like, more personal maybe and not like you’re just missing out on the party part. 

Nicole [00:47:43] I think that’s a good idea as well–just to be like, “Hey, I’m thinking about you. You’re important to me, and I want to celebrate you.” 

Sasheer [00:47:49] Yeah. 

Nicole [00:47:50] Without being like, “Why wasn’t I invited?” 

Sasheer [00:47:53] Yeah. ‘Cause you don’t know. And who knows? Maybe that reach out could be that person’s reminder–“Oh, wait, I love this person. Why didn’t I put them on my invite list?” Maybe you would get an invite. Who knows? 

Nicole [00:48:05] Yeah, ’cause I’ve done that before–had a get together or whatever, and thought I invited everyone I wanted there, and then see someone the next day and be like, “Fuck. I meant to invite this person. I love them so much.” 

Sasheer [00:48:16] Yeah. Yeah. 

Nicole [00:48:19] Solved! 

Sasheer [00:48:20] Solved.

Caller [00:48:21] Hi, Nicole and Sasheer. Giving you a call today. I want to ask you a question. I actually have a little bit of a problem with a friend of mine–I guess more of a coworker. Uh, you know, recently she was fired from the job that we shared. She’d always been kind of a negative person and kind of starting drama in the office or kind of, you know, talking behind people’s backs. It’s a toxic work environment, but she makes it more toxic by just spreading gossip, and I think that’s why she was probably let go. And at this point, you know, she’s not working there anymore, and I, I don’t know if I want to be friends with her anymore, honestly. And I don’t really know how to tell her that. She’s kind of texting me every other day at this point. “Hi, how are you?” “What’s going on?” “Do you want to hang out?” And then, you know, if I do hang out with her, it just becomes kind of, like, a bitch fest about, you know, all coworkers and anyone in her life. It always seems like there’s a problem in her life or she’s talking about other people’s problems. And, you know, I’m in a place where I’m just trying to have a positive life and live really positively. Just talking once in a while is fine, but I can’t make a whole friendship off of that. I guess I just don’t know how to kind of let her down easy, and, you know, I’m not really interested in being so much friends outside of work. So, hopefully you can help me with this. I love your podcast. Thank you so much. Bye. 

Nicole [00:50:10] That is tough because it is like you got to put up some boundaries. So, I do think if you do end up hanging out with this person, you set a boundary. “I only have an hour and a half.” “I have something after this.” Always have something after it, so you don’t have to spend too much time with that person. And then another option is if you truly don’t want to hang out with them, I think you can say, “I don’t have the bandwidth right now to be a good friend and to, like, help you with these problems. And I’m really sorry about that, but I just can’t right now.” 

Sasheer [00:50:46] Yeah. I mean, part of me is like… I feel bad for that person–the one who got fired–because it seems like maybe they’re just a negative person, but usually that’s a symptom of a bigger problem. Like, they’re hurting in some other kind of way. So that person probably could use a friend, but also, I don’t know. If the person who’s calling in is not interested in being that person, then they are not interested. But, yeah, I don’t know. I imagine it’s not just this person being overly negative. They’re probably sad, or angry, or something. You know, there’s something else going on, but it just comes out in, like, complainy talk. 

Nicole [00:51:36] Or… if you do still want to hang out with them and give it another shot, maybe do a hang out where talking isn’t the main event–like a painting class or a pole dancing class. Yeah, like a group activity type deal. 

Sasheer [00:51:55] An amusement park! 

Nicole [00:51:58] Well, you got to talk in between rides. 

Sasheer [00:52:00] Oh, that’s right. That’s right. Well, you’re in line, too. 

Nicole [00:52:02] Yeah. But something like that, where it’s, like, a group thing. A movie. So, if you like being around this person, but you just don’t like hearing the complaining, give yourself something else to talk about–like the movie. But it is hard. If you don’t want to be their friend, also, you don’t have to hang out with them. 

Sasheer [00:52:22] Okay. So how do we help this person tell their ex-coworker they don’t want to hang out if they do in fact want to stop hanging out with this person. 

Nicole [00:52:33] I think it’s like, “I don’t have the bandwidth.” Kimmie has said that, like, a while ago. To say that “I don’t have the bandwidth right now to be a good friend.” Or also, I’ve just sort of said to people, “I don’t really love talking shit about people that I work with or people I’m friends with. So, like, this conversation is just a nonstarter for me. I’m so sorry. God bless.” 

Sasheer [00:52:57] Yeah. Part of me wonders what would happen if the person who called in did put a boundary there and is like, “I don’t want to talk about work outside of work,” or “I don’t want to talk shit. Period.” Would that change anything? Would this person maybe be able to shift gears and talk about something else? Would their attitude be different? Are they only negative because they’re talking shit about people from work? What happens when they talk about something they like? Who knows? 

Nicole [00:53:28] Yeah. Maybe they like go-karts or something. 

Sasheer [00:53:30] Maybe they like go-karts.

Nicole [00:53:33] And they really blossom, and they talk about go-karts. 

Sasheer [00:53:35] Yeah. Who knows? Yeah. Maybe give that a try first. See what happens if you do give that instruction, like, “Look, I’m not here to talk shit. I still work with these people. It makes me uncomfortable when you talk shit about the people I work with. Let’s talk about other stuff.” And if she cannot talk about other stuff–okay–then you can figure out how to distance yourself. But maybe give it a shot. Maybe this person can be actually cool. 

Nicole [00:54:06] Yeah, I agree. Don’t sign off from them just yet. Log back on and see if you can figure it out. 

Sasheer [00:54:19] I feel like you are the announcer of Next or, like, one of those MTV dating shows. They tie in the theme of what’s happening with, like, the bumper. 

Nicole [00:54:36] Thank you. 

Sasheer [00:54:37] Yeah. If they, like, went to a swamp or something for a date, they’re like, “See you later, alligator.” 

Nicole [00:54:47] “Let’s see if they can get wet and deep with somebody else.” 

Sasheer [00:54:53] Oh, yes. 

Nicole [00:54:56] Yes! 

Sasheer [00:54:57] Yes! 

Nicole [00:55:02] Well… Nicoleandsasheer@gmail.com is an e-mail address that you can email us at if you have any quandaries or queries. And then we have a number for text messages and voice memos, but also those can go to the email. So, the number is 424-645-7003. 

Sasheer [00:55:25] We also have merch at podswag.com/bestfriends. 

Nicole [00:55:28] We have transcripts for our new episodes! Check them out on our show page at earwolf.com. 

Sasheer [00:55:37] Lastly, don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe. That is the easiest way to support this show. 

Nicole [00:55:42] Well, Sasheer, hopefully next time I see you we’ll be in the same country. 

Sasheer [00:55:48] I hope so, too. 

Nicole [00:55:51] Adios. 

Sasheer [00:55:53] See you later, alligator. 

Sasheer [00:55:58] Bye! 

Nicole [00:55:59] Bye.