May 18, 2021

EP. 213 — We’re Being Watched. Now What? with Meredith Broussard

It’s no secret that we rely on technology in our daily lives. So it shouldn’t be a secret how that technology works, who is developing it, and just how biased it can be. This week on Getting Curious, returning guest Meredith Broussard joins Jonathan to discuss how data rights are civil rights—and how we can all get involved in efforts to defend them.

Data journalist Meredith Broussard is an associate professor at the Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute of New York University, research director at the NYU Alliance for Public Interest Technology, and the author of “Artificial Unintelligence: How Computers Misunderstand the World.” Meredith is featured in the documentary Coded Bias, directed by Shalini Kantayya, now available to stream on Netflix.

You can follow Meredith on Twitter and Instagram @merbroussard, and keep up with her work at For more information on Coded Bias, head over to and follow @codedbias on Instagram and Twitter.

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Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness & Meredith Broussard JVN [00:00:00] Welcome to Getting Curious. I’m Jonathan Van Ness and every week I sit down for a 40 minute conversation. Let’s be honest, it’s really, usually always longer than 40 minutes, I’m sorry, it used to be 40 and now I can’t stop asking questions, I don’t know what happened. But anyway, each week, we sit down with a brilliant expert where I get to ask them all about something that makes me curious. On today’s episode, I’m joined by Professor Meredith Broussad, where I ask her: We’re being watched. Now what? Our guest this week on Getting Curious is-, it’s our second time together. We are obsessed. We learned so much we can’t stand it. You are definitely someone who when I met you, I smashed the follow button I have been following ever since. You also just made a gorgeous, if I do say so myself, debut on Netflix. You are Meredith Broussard, a data journalist. You are also an assistant prof

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