December 24, 2019

EP. 141 — What’s the Difference Between Sunni and Shia and Why Don’t They Love Each Other? with Dr. James L. Gelvin

In December of 2015, Dr. James L. Gelvin joined Jonathan in the studio to discuss the relationship between Shia and Sunni Islam and to record the very first episode of Getting Curious…the rest is history!

Dr. James L. Gelvin is a Professor of Islamic Studies at UCLA. He holds his B.A. and M.A. from Columbia University and his Ph.D. from Harvard. He’s also taught at Harvard, Boston College and MIT.

His most recent book is titled “The New Middle East: What Everyone Needs to Know” where he covers the social, political and economic landscape of the contemporary Middle East.

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