EP. 187 — Sasheer Is Fascinated By The Blue Man Group

Sasheer [00:00:14] Hi, Nicole.

Nicole [00:00:22] Hi, Sasheer. How are you? 

Sasheer [00:00:25] I’m good. How are you? 

Nicole [00:00:28] Overwhelmed. I’ve been watching too much DIY on Instagram. And a lot of it is people who have painted their countertops or tiles with epoxy. There’s, like, one camp that’s like, “No epoxy! It’s not going to be good!” I’m part of that camp. I think you should just retile. 

Sasheer [00:00:50] It’s called “epoxy” or “poxy?” 

Nicole [00:00:54] Guess what? I don’t know. I think it’s E.P.O.X.Y., so it might be “poxy.” But I call it “epoxy.” 

Sasheer [00:01:06] And what does it do? What does it look like? 

Nicole [00:01:09] So it just looks like a coat of paint over your tile. 

Sasheer [00:01:12] Oh, I see, I see. Yes. 

Nicole [00:01:14] And it’s a way to, like, update them. Give you ugly beige tiles. You can paint them Hunter Green or white. No one ever paints them a fun color, which is, like, really upsetting to me. And people are like, “So people told me not to paint my tiles. Here they are four months later, and they look good!” Instagram is only showing me those videos. And then there’s this girl I really like. Ooh, I should find her, but I can’t remember. Wait, I’m going to try to find her real quick. But I just keep watching these videos of people doing things themselves, and I’m like, “I can do stuff myself.” So, you want to know what I did? 

Sasheer [00:01:55] Oh, boy. What do you do? 

Nicole [00:01:57] I bought a sample of paint in cilantro. Sherman Williams cilantro. Discontinued, but my dude at Home Depot–my assistant did this, I didn’t do this–but this man at Home Depot mixed it for her. Can you even? He knew the color. How did he know? I’ll never know. So, he mixes it for her. She buys me a sample. And then I painted the grate in my bathroom because my windowsill was painted cilantro. The door was painted cilantro. But they left the grate white. And it’s been like that for almost a year. And every time I sit on that toilet, I go, “That grate should be cilantro.” So, then I painted it, and I did a fine job, but it tuckered me out. And then I bought more paint because I wanted to paint the crown molding on my guest bedroom. And then I was like, “I can’t do that.” It took me out–doing this little grate. I’m so overwhelmed. I want to do things. And then I opened a cabinet today and I said, “This cabinet should have wallpaper inside. So, there’s a fun pizzazz inside.” 

Sasheer [00:03:01] In the cabinet? 

Nicole [00:03:03] So then I bought removable wallpaper that’s coming to me. And you know, the trouble I had the first time I did the whole removable wallpaper. But I did it again. 

Sasheer [00:03:17] Why don’t you just get someone else to do it?

Nicole [00:03:19] Because I keep watching Instagram videos where people are doing it themselves. 

Sasheer [00:03:23] Yeah, that’s the problem. 

Nicole [00:03:25] This couple last night, Sasheer–they did a disgusting thing. They removed their cabinets. They painted them seafoam green. They put the cabinets back up without the doors to make it look like open shelving. But the whole point of open shelving is a shelf not a casing around it. That’s, like, captured shelving because it’s still captured in something. It’s not open. It certainly is not open. Oh man, it made me so angry. Oh boy, oh boy. 

Sasheer [00:04:01] Yeah. These DIY things are making people believe in themselves too much. 

Nicole [00:04:05] Yes. And I shan’t be believing it myself. It’s really upsetting that it makes me think I can do it, you know? 

Sasheer [00:04:16] Yeah. There was, like, an opening outside my house where rodents were getting in. And we had pest control come by, and they were like, “We can put a little netting over this, but it’s gonna be, like, $300.” And I was like, “All you’re going to do is put netting over this little hole. I can do that myself.” And I shooed them away. And then midway through I was like, “I should have paid $300. I don’t want anymore.” I’m, like, using wire cutters to clip this wire. And I’m, like, bleeding–I’m cutting myself. 

Nicole [00:04:56] Yeah. I mean, I don’t know what gets into us that we’re like, “I can do this” because surely, we can’t. And we shan’t. 

Sasheer [00:05:05] We shan’t, and I don’t want to. 

Nicole [00:05:07] I don’t want to either. But I have to wallpaper the inside of my cabinets.

Sasheer [00:05:11] Because you gave yourself a job to do. 

Nicole [00:05:14] Yeah. And I don’t fucking know why. 

Sasheer [00:05:16] Yeah. 

Nicole [00:05:17] And then I might paint– Okay. I think what I’m going to do is… If the cabinet has– I don’t know what it’s called but it’s got a trim around and then a middle? Does that make sense? It’s, like, a shaker-style inside. Does that make sense?

Sasheer [00:05:32] I’m not as knowledgeable in home terms as you are. 

Nicole [00:05:35] Okay. So, when you open it, there’s, like, a little border and then a recessed part. 

Sasheer [00:05:42] Okay. Yes, I think I understand.

Nicole [00:05:44] The recessed part in the middle is going to be wallpapered. And then the border around it, I think, I’m gonna paint purple. And then, Sasheer, when I painted this grate, you better believe I didn’t have any tarping or whatever to put under it in case it drips, so I put my hand towel under, and guess what? Paint dripped on it. And then I was mad about it. Who wants to hire me to do your home? I’ll come! I’ll make a mess! I’ll cry! Oh, my God. And then my couch. I bought a couch that’s just down. It’s down feathers. And I don’t– How do you put structure in a couch? 

Sasheer [00:06:32] In the cushions or the frame? 

Nicole [00:06:35] Well, you know how most couches have, like, wood in them or something to keep a shape? This one has no wood. It’s like a big bean bag filled with feathers. Help! Who do I call?

Sasheer [00:06:47] I don’t know. 

Nicole [00:06:49] Me either. If anybody listening knows anybody who can revive my couch, bring it back to life, resurrect it like Jesus, let me know! 

Sasheer [00:06:59] Reupholster?

Nicole [00:07:03] They just do the fabric. Like, if you take the fabric off my couch, you’ll have a pile of feathers. There’s nothing keeping the feathers in, and they poke you. 

Sasheer [00:07:13] Oh, no. You don’t want that. 

Nicole [00:07:16] It’s really upsetting. Help!

Sasheer [00:07:20] “Somebody! Anybody! Help!” 

Nicole [00:07:23] The couch is there. I just needed it to be structured. 

Sasheer [00:07:27] Yeah, yeah. 

Nicole [00:07:29] Lord Jesus. And I’ve been all up and down the websites, looking for a similar couch to mine. I’ve been on Pinterest. Did you know that Pinterest is “pin your interest?” 

Sasheer [00:07:39] I did know that. Yeah. 

Nicole [00:07:40] Oh, you did?

Sasheer [00:07:41] I think that was, like, the whole thing. Yeah. 

Nicole [00:07:43] Fuck. Fuck. I just found out. 

Sasheer [00:07:47] How did you just find out?

Nicole [00:07:49] There was a video of this lady who explained a bunch of stuff. Pinterest is one of them. 

Sasheer [00:07:54] She explained Pinterest? 

Nicole [00:07:57] She explained a bunch of things that I didn’t know. Like, “break a leg” is “break a leg because I want to see you cast.” 

Sasheer [00:08:06] Yes. I think I saw this video. 

Nicole [00:08:09] Yeah. I didn’t know that. I thought we were just trying to, like, kill people. I thought it was like, “I’m wishing you ill will!”

Sasheer [00:08:17] But I guess I didn’t think Pinterest needed to be explained. The word “interest” is fully in there. 

Nicole [00:08:24] Wow. “I didn’t think Pinterest needed to be explained.” Well, some of us don’t catch on too quick, Sasheer. 

Sasheer [00:08:36] It’s just the actual word “interest” is in the title. 

Nicole [00:08:40] Yeah. Okay. Some of us didn’t get it. 

Sasheer [00:08:42] And then the only thing you do on that app is pin things. So, you’re pinning. You pin it. 

Nicole [00:08:51] Some of us don’t pin. Some of us just look at Pinterest and they get really upset when they can’t find that picture. They didn’t realize that’s what they’re supposed to be doing. Some of us don’t think things are as intuitive as they are. I’m going to talk about myself, you know. You’re just talking about some people, okay?

Sasheer [00:09:10] Yes. Right. Of course. Not you. You got it. You understand. 

Nicole [00:09:13] I knew. I watched that lady’s video. I scooped all that knowledge right up. 

Sasheer [00:09:28] Thank you for buying me an iPhone. 

Nicole [00:09:33] Oh, yeah. You’re welcome. I thought I did something I didn’t know about. 

Sasheer [00:09:38] Yeah, Nicole went to the Apple Store to get herself some stuff and then was like, “Hey, I know you got an old ass phone. Do you want me to buy you an iPhone while I’m here?” And I was like, “Oh, my God, yes, please!” And you were like, “I mean, you have to pay for it.” And I was like, “Oh, yeah, of course.” 

Nicole [00:09:58] I love giving you gifts, but I was like, “This gift is too wild.” And if I saw you, like, throwing it around, I’d be like, “Hey, man.” You know what I mean? You surely have to pay me back. 

Sasheer [00:10:10] No, I understood that you weren’t buying me a phone. You were just doing the act of buying for me. But even that was super helpful because I’ve been wanting to buy a phone, and I just haven’t gotten around to it. And my phone still works. I have a ten and it works fine. 

Nicole [00:10:29] You I cannot say it works fine. It surely doesn’t. You leave countries, and then your phone goes, “I’m so sorry, I can’t be of service.”

Sasheer [00:10:37] Yeah, there’s some things it doesn’t do. But it works fine enough. So, I’m, like, not in a rush to get a new phone. Obviously, I haven’t been in a rush. I’m a few generations behind. So, the fact that you were like, “I’m going to help my friend out” is huge. 

Nicole [00:10:56] Aw. You’re welcome. You know my harrowing experience at the Apple Store, but everyone else doesn’t. Okay, my computer, I believe, is from 1982. No, I’m kidding. How do you find out when your computer is from? About this Mac?

Sasheer [00:11:13] Yeah, I think so. 

Nicole [00:11:15] Oh, okay. So, I got it in 2019. And so, this is pre-pandemic. So, like, the computer was living good. We went through the pandemic together. It’s not thriving anymore. She gets so hot, and then sometimes she’ll be like, “Nah.” And I was like, “Uh oh. Time for a new one.” And I was like, “I want a bigger screen,” because you know me. I love big things. So, I go to get the 16-inch MacBook Pro, which apparently is a powerful, big computer used by professionals. And everyone at the store judged me for wanting it. They were like, “What are you going to do on it?” And I was like, “You know, Zoom, type, fucking anthropologie.com, buy curtains. I don’t know.” And they were like, “Then get a MacBook Air.” And I was like, “Yeah, but I don’t want an air. I want a big, thick book.” And they’re like, “All right, fine.” And then I was like, “And then I’ll travel with an iPad.” And he was like, “I just think you should get the MacBook Air.” And I was like, “I do not need a man telling me what to do.” And then he was like, “All right. Come back at 1:30. And that was at 11:00.” And I said, “Okay. I’ll go see a movie.” And he looked in my eyes and said, “Okay.” Sasheer, I marched right over to the movie theater. It’s not open. He knew that it wasn’t open. He knew that it wasn’t open. He knew that movies didn’t start there till 5 p.m. He knew it. And he looked me in the eyes, and he let me walk over like an idiot. 

Sasheer [00:12:47] He’s like, “I don’t care what you do. You just can’t be here.” 

Nicole [00:12:51] He’s like, “Whatever.” So, then I spent two hours in Barnes and Noble, and I rediscovered books. Sasheer, I spent 2 hours laughing and tee-hee-heeing through books. 

Sasheer [00:13:11] Whoa. 

Nicole [00:13:12] I was reading Jennifer Lewis’ second book. And I was just going from the table of contents and finding chapters that seemed interesting to me. And I read them. And–ooh–I was laughing. And then every time someone passed me, I would smile at them, and they would smile at me because we’re book people. And there was a camaraderie. 

Sasheer [00:13:38] They were doing that classic book smile. 

Nicole [00:13:43] Where it’s just, like, slightly awkward. And then I bought some books and went back to the Apple Store to pick up my merchandise. Got you your phone, put you on speakerphone to talk to the man, who did not seem happy about it. And then it was a different man. And he’s like, “So what are you going to do with this MacBook Pro?” And I was like, “I don’t know. Learn iMovie?” Because I didn’t want them to judge me anymore. And he’s like, “You’re gonna learn how to do iMovie on this?” And I was like, “Oh my God, he’s still judging me.”

Sasheer [00:14:13] That is a funny response because you can do iMovie on your phone. You don’t need a MacBook Pro to do it.

Nicole [00:14:22] That’s how little I know about computers. They asked me about Ram, and I was like, “A Dodge? I don’t know what Ram is other than a car–a truck.” Long story short, I returned the computer and the iPad the very next day because I didn’t need a laptop that big. So, I got a desktop because that is a very big screen and that will be what I need to have in my office. And then I got a MacBook Air to carry around with me. And then I just wiped my current iPad, so it has nothing on it. So, then I can watch stuff on it. I got a new one because I was like, “I don’t know how to wipe it.” So, I just Googled it. 

Sasheer [00:15:07] Hey, but that’s okay. You figured it out, and then you adjusted. 

Nicole [00:15:13] That’s when my credit card company called to say, “You alright? Is everything good over here? You made some big purchases and returned some big purchases.” 

Sasheer [00:15:22] “What’s the scam? We can’t figure it out.” 

Nicole [00:15:24] Sorry. What were you saying? I rudely interrupted you. 

Sasheer [00:15:31] I wish I had known you were going back to the Apple Store because I think I messed up on the storage of the iPhone that you got me. 

Nicole [00:15:39] Oh no.

Sasheer [00:15:40] I think I should’ve got a bigger capacity. 

Nicole [00:15:42] Isn’t that the biggest? 

Sasheer [00:15:43] No, I think there’s a bigger one. I think I got the middle one. 

Nicole [00:15:47] More than 200?

Sasheer [00:15:47] Maybe, like, a 500 or something like that. 

Nicole [00:15:49] That’s crazy. What do you have currently? 

Sasheer [00:15:52] I think the 200. So, in my mind, I was like, “Oh, I should get the same thing.” But of course, I shouldn’t because I’ve been struggling to keep things on my phone and deleting shit off my phone, so I should get more capacity. 

Nicole [00:16:04] Well, I can’t go back. 

Sasheer [00:16:07] It’s okay. 

Nicole [00:16:09] This is where I leave you, friend. How do I know how much storage is on my phone? 

Sasheer [00:16:14] I think the About or, like, Settings and then…  

Nicole [00:16:20] Settings? General? About? 

Sasheer [00:16:22] Maybe it’s About This Phone. I think it’s the first thing. 

Nicole [00:16:25] Oh, yeah, I have the 512 gigabyte. 

Sasheer [00:16:28] Yeah, that’s what I mean. 

Jordan [00:16:30] You can actually go up to a one terabyte also. 

Nicole [00:16:34] Who’s terabyte?

Sasheer [00:16:35] Sounds like a dinosaur. 

Nicole [00:16:37] It sounds like a delicious dessert. 

Sasheer [00:16:41] “I’ll just have a terabyte. Not very big.” 

Nicole [00:16:43] “Not big. Just a little terabyte.” Or “The terabytes roamed with the brontosauruses.” 

Sasheer [00:16:52] Do you think I’m able to exchange the phone just with the receipt that you have? 

Nicole [00:16:57] Yeah. I can forward you the receipt. 

Sasheer [00:17:01] Okay, great. I’ll just do that. 

Nicole [00:17:01] And then you can have fun. But it’s waiting for you. I was going to wrap it, but then I was like, “Well, she’s just going to open it.” But now, I certainly won’t wrap it because if you bring it back to the store wrapped, they’ll be like, “This ungrateful woman.” 

Sasheer [00:17:15] “I got a gift, and I don’t want it.”

Nicole [00:17:18] “Sir, I don’t want this. Please. I don’t. I simply don’t want it.” Yeah, but it was a real treat that you were so excited.  

Sasheer [00:17:26] Yes! I mean, it’s like, you know, I love acts of service.  It was very kind that you thought about me. 

Nicole [00:17:31] Oh, my friend. I’m constantly thinking about you. I think that day I also called you, like, 86 times. 

Sasheer [00:17:44] But I was fine with it. I was around. 

Nicole [00:17:48] Oh, my God! How was Blue Man Group? Oh. 

Sasheer [00:17:52] I went to Vegas. 

Nicole [00:17:53] I forgot about it. 

Sasheer [00:17:56] I went to Vegas a couple days ago by myself. No one else could go because it was a random Thursday, and I found out about this gig that I had to do like days before. So, I was like, “Well, while I’m here. I’m going to see Blue Man Group. I’ve never seen them before.” And I loved it. It was really fun. They explain nothing. They’re not like, “Here’s why these men are blue. Here’s where we are.” There’s no, like, story at all. It’s just these blue men. I was like, “Why are there no blue women after all these years? Nary a blue woman?”

Nicole [00:18:33] But do they wear clothes, or are they naked? 

Sasheer [00:18:35] They wear clothes. They wear just black clothes. And then their hands and their heads are blue. And they all drum. They drum on different tubes, pipes, and things. They make different sounds. And then they also drum–they put paint on it–and the paint splashes everywhere. And it’s cool. I was in the splash zone. I didn’t realize. I got good seats close to the stage, then they gave me a tarp to put on myself, and I was like, “Are you kidding me?” And they’re like, “Yeah! Here. You’re close to the stage, you might need it.” And I was like, “Wait, no! I didn’t know this is what I was signing up for.” I had white sneakers on, and I was like, “I don’t want to get paint on my white sneakers.” And they were like, “You’ll be fine.” I was like, “But you gave me a tarp!” I asked for a second. They’re like, “We only have enough for all the seats here.” I was like, “But I don’t want to get my white shoes dirty.” I didn’t. It was fine. But yeah, they’re splattering paint all over the place. And then there was a moment where they made a picture in the show because a guy had caught paintballs in his mouth then spat them onto a canvas, and was, like, spinning it. And in my mind, I was like, “I’m going to buy that.” 

Nicole [00:19:45] Sasheer! 

Sasheer [00:19:45] Because I was like, “That’s really cool.” 

Nicole [00:19:50] “I’m going to buy that.”

Sasheer [00:19:52] But I didn’t know that was an option, but it was. And as we were exiting the theater, a guy was standing by the door, holding it. And I was like, “I’m going to go over there.” And then some bitch ran in front of me and claimed it. And she’s like, “I want that!” And he’s like, “Right this way,” and led her to the cash register. And I was like, “That’s it? That’s all you had to do?” There was no other, like, raise your hand if you want this, a contest, or anything. It’s just whoever exited it and wanted it–first come, first serve. And they only had one. And so, this lady got it before I did. 

Nicole [00:20:27] I’ll take you back to the Blue Man Group because I would like to see the visual enli– What did you…? You phrased it in the funniest way. 

Sasheer [00:20:37] I said, “An audio and visual spectacle.” 

Nicole [00:20:41] Say it again. I laughed too hard before even hearing it. 

Sasheer [00:20:45] Because you were like, “What even is this show?” And I was like, “Well, by the looks of it, it’s an audio and visual spectacle.” And you were like, “Who talks like that?” And it was. I got to tell you; it was. 

Nicole [00:20:59] Well, we’ll go back. We’re going to get you that painting. I’ll speak to someone before the show starts to be like, “We want the painting that they made.” We’ll get it for you. 

Sasheer [00:21:12] Thank you. 

Nicole [00:21:12] I can’t wait to see the visual and audio spectacle. 

Sasheer [00:21:19] And it did make me want to, like, research the show more because I feel like it started in New York. So, I want to know, like, did they have, like, a Joe’s Pub moment? Like, what was their deal before they got big shows? 

Nicole [00:21:34] “Did they have a Joe’s Pub moment?” 

Sasheer [00:21:36] What were their experimental shows? What was their low budget, like, “We just picked up trash on the street to make sounds before we were able to get a band behind us, all the equipment we could ever need, and like a stage crew…”? 

Nicole [00:21:51] Yeah. Did they start as the Black Man Group, get a note about racism, and say, “Maybe we should just be blue.” 

Sasheer [00:21:57] Yeah. We just won’t be any race. 

Nicole [00:22:02] It’s not the original Blue Men. It’s been going on for so long. 

Sasheer [00:22:06] It’s been going on for so long. They tour. There’s one in Vegas. There’s one in New York. There’s probably one in Chicago. I think it’s like a big corporation. It’s its own thing. And smart, too. Because you’re blue, anyone could be… Well, no, not if you’re a woman. But any man could be a Blue Man. 

Nicole [00:22:29] But how do you know there was no women? Maybe with their titties strapped down? 

Sasheer [00:22:34] This is a good point. I don’t actually know. 

Nicole [00:22:36] You know, there might be. 

Sasheer [00:22:38] There could be. 

Nicole [00:22:39] There could be some NBs. 

Sasheer [00:22:43] You know, there’s a good point. I don’t know. I don’t know how they identify. 

Nicole [00:22:47] No.

Sasheer [00:22:48] That’s true. 

Nicole [00:22:49] Boy, I’m so glad you got to do that. 

Sasheer [00:22:51] Me too. It was very fun. 

Nicole [00:22:52] You sounded so excited. You love a Vegas show. 

Sasheer [00:22:56] I love Vegas. I was also trying to squeeze in Cirque du Soleil, but my agent was like, “You do have to work. You have to actually go to this job that you’re paid to be there for.” 

Nicole [00:23:07] That’s really funny. “Why is Sasheer late?” “Oh, she went to two Vegas shows.” I’d like to go to Vegas for a weekend sometime soon. 

Sasheer [00:23:19] I really want to see Usher. 

Nicole [00:23:21] Oh, my God. That looks like such a fun show. I’d love to see Usher. We should try to figure it out. Our schedules are shitty, though, sometimes. Also, I’m so excited to be visiting you in Atlanta because I told you I want a vintage Bronco, right? 

Sasheer [00:23:38] No. 

Nicole [00:23:39] Oh. Well, “doo doo doo doo doo doo. Here’s a news announcement.” No. Well, how do you say–? 

Sasheer [00:23:52] Newsflash? 

Nicole [00:23:52] Yeah. “Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. Newsflash.” I want a vintage bronco. I want a ’66 through ’74. And I want to lift it. I want it to be lilac. I do want it to be a removable hardtop. And then I want, like, lilac interior with black and white interior seats. And then, like, I want it to be fully restored, so I don’t have to deal with it being a stick because a lot of them are sticks. And this place, Vintage Broncos–I think that’s what the company is called–they’re in Atlanta. And I followed them a couple months ago. And then the owner reached out and was like, “Thanks for the follow. If you have any questions or you’re in Atlanta, you want to take one for a test drive, let me know.” And I was like, “I am going to be in Atlanta next freaking month!” And he was like, “Bring your fat ass over!” I’m kidding. He didn’t say that. He’s a very nice man. 

Sasheer [00:24:53] It’s like, “Whoa! Wait a minute.” 

Nicole [00:24:57] So I’m, like, really excited about it.

Sasheer [00:25:00] Whoa. I’m so glad. I can’t wait to see you drive this Bronco. 

Nicole [00:25:03] Right? A big, purple Bronco. 

Sasheer [00:25:06] So you get one from there. Do they ship it to you? Do you have to drive it? 

Nicole [00:25:10] No, no, no. They ship it. That’s how I got my other car. 

Sasheer [00:25:15] Wow. This is great. 

Nicole [00:25:17] I’m turning into Jay Leno. 

Sasheer [00:25:20] You really are. Does a Bronco have…? Like, is there a story? Is there a significance in your life? Or, like, have you seen Broncos in your life and been like, “I got to get one of these?”

Nicole [00:25:33] I just love them. It’s like a big, cute little truck. I just really like them. I think they’re really adorable. And they resemble a wrangler, or wranglers resemble them a little bit. But there’s something about a big heavy-duty truck and then painting it lilac. I just love that look, and I like the aesthetic. And every time I see someone driving it, they look like they have carefree lives. And that’s what I’m trying to bring to me. 

Sasheer [00:26:05] Every time you see someone in a Bronco? 

Nicole [00:26:07] They look like they’re having the time of their life and it’s carefree. 

Sasheer [00:26:10] Unless you’re O.J.

Nicole [00:26:11] Well, yeah. He is a later model. 

Sasheer [00:26:16] That’s why it wasn’t so carefree. 

Nicole [00:26:18] The later model is stressful. Because I was like, “It’s either that or I want a vintage, like, uh…” Oh, God, I can’t think of any cars right now. It was, like, a vintage muscle car. And then I was like, “Do I really want a muscle car–an American muscle car–because I already have a Japanese sports car?” But I don’t want anything past 90s. And then I was like, “Uh oh. If I get any more cars, I’m going to have to get a garage.” This is such a boogie conversation. People who collect cars are out of their minds. 

Sasheer [00:27:02] You know when we were trying to, like, drive on a racetrack?

Nicole [00:27:05] Yes. I’d still really like to do that.

Sasheer [00:27:07] I think there’s something like that in Atlanta, too. 

Nicole [00:27:09] Oh, my God. Atlanta is going to be the place of my dreams. I get to test drive a Bronco. I get to do a racetrack. It’s the Porsche one, right? The Porsche Experience? 

Sasheer [00:27:21] I honestly don’t even know where I saw this or what I was looking at that told me this information. But I was like, “Oh, I think that’s what we were trying to do.” Maybe it’s the Porsche experience. 

Sasheer [00:27:29] Lord Jesus, I can’t wait. 

Nicole [00:27:32] I just love zoom-zoom-zooming around. 

Sasheer [00:27:37] You really do. 

Nicole [00:27:38] Oh, God. I love it. And then my other car–truly the shipping was almost as expensive as the car. Yeah, the shipping gets you. It was truly wild. And then you have to register it. And that was a whole thing. My God. And then the battery died because the alarm system was connected to the battery. And I don’t know how it was draining it, but it only ran for, like, two weeks. And then it was like, “Sorry. I won’t turn on.” So, I had to have it towed from my garage. It was a whole to-do. 

Sasheer [00:28:10] A whole thing. This is what happens when you have old cars. 

Nicole [00:28:12] I know. But guess what? She’s fixed. I tinted those windows. You cannot see inside. I was driving her the other day. I kept looking around, and I was like, “How come no one is oohing and aahing at my dream car?” And then I forgot nobody gives a shit about cars. 

Sasheer [00:28:31] Yeah. Not everyone cares that much. 

Nicole [00:28:34] No, just me and everyone who went to the L.A. Auto Show. 

Sasheer [00:28:38] Oh, yes. Did we talk about the auto show? 

Nicole [00:28:41] I don’t know, but I can’t wait to go back next year. I had a time at the L.A. Auto Show. I had a tarot card reading, I saw a jet ski boat car combo thing, we had nasty pretzels. It was truly delightful. I was very sad because they didn’t have any of the new Lincolns. 

Sasheer [00:29:04] Oh, but then we saw Lincoln on the street. And you stopped and crouched in front of it. And you were like, “Look at it!” And now when I see a Lincoln, I think of you. 

Nicole [00:29:15] Well, the grill is slightly different than other generations. 

Sasheer [00:29:19] I don’t think I would have known. I don’t think I would have had any idea. 

Nicole [00:29:25] I really, really liked it. And then I forgot to look at the Cadillacs because those also take you to the airport. And Mono was like, “Why are you so excited to see the Lincolns?” And I said, “Because they take you to the airport and I want to see my future!”

Sasheer [00:29:45] It’s really great. 

Nicole [00:29:46] And then every time Mono saw something he liked, he would go, “Well, that’s New York funky.” And then we all started to say it–it was me, him, and Drew. And then I couldn’t stop laughing after we go, “Ooh, that’s New York funky.” So, I’m pretty sure everyone in L.A. thought there was something wrong with us. 

Sasheer [00:30:03] Well, I mean, they’re also really excited about cars, too. So, they’re probably like, “Yes! They get it.”

Nicole [00:30:11] Volkswagen has an electric division now, and it’s called Polestar. Isn’t that a weird name? 

Sasheer [00:30:17] Polestar? Weird. 

Nicole [00:30:19] P.O.L.E. star.

Sasheer [00:30:22] It sounds like a strip club. 

Nicole [00:30:25] It sounds like “porn star.” 

Sasheer [00:30:27] Yeah. Also, when they did that really stupid ad campaign years ago where they were like, “This is what it would look like if Volkswagen had electric.” 

Nicole [00:30:42] And people were like, “We want that car.”

Sasheer [00:30:43] And they’re like, “Oops, sorry. We’re actually not selling any of these and don’t even have them designed yet.” And people were like, “Why did you even do this?” 

Nicole [00:30:50] Was that Volvo or Volkswagen? 

Sasheer [00:30:52] It was Volkswagen because I remember because they called it “Voltswagen.” That “T”. And people were like, “Holy shit, they’re doing electric!” And they’re like, “Oh, we didn’t know you guys wanted it that bad.” 

Nicole [00:31:04] Yeah, people be wanting electric cars. I think it’s Dodge. Yeah, it’s the Dodge Challenger? I’m having real brain farts this morning. They have a fully electric muscle car where whatever powers the car mimics an engine and shakes the car like it’s an engine. And I was like, “Oh, my God. That’s fucking cool.” And then there was this lady walking around. She was talking about it, and I just, like, made a joke; I was like, “How come she’s not in a bikini?” And then this man was like, “Oh!” And I was like, “Oh, I’m kidding!”

Sasheer [00:31:41] Wait, this is at the auto show? 

Nicole [00:31:41] Yeah. He really hated that joke. 

Sasheer [00:31:46] He’s like, “Hey, we might like cars, but we respect women here.” 

Nicole [00:31:52] And then, Sasheer, at the auto show–I call them rides, but you could just test drive the cars. And Jeep, Ford, they had the Bronco that you could drive. You can go, like, up this big fucking hill and then down this fucking hill. And I was like, “Is this the first time in my life I go to the front of the line and go, ‘Do you know who I am?’” Because it was so long. And then I was like, “I can’t be embarrassed like that at the L.A. Convention Center at the L.A. Auto Show. That’s too much. I think I’d have to just pack it in and never leave my home again.” But I really wanted to. 

Sasheer [00:32:28] I wonder if they would have this thing–those people who… You know, when you’re at Disney World or Disneyland and they have a guide who brings you to the front of the line that you can pay for? I wonder if they have that at the L.A. Auto Show.

Sasheer [00:32:41] If anybody knows, please let me know! 

Nicole [00:32:45] Wait. You like Disney, right? 

Sasheer [00:32:47] I do, yeah. 

Nicole [00:32:48] I have been twice now. I will go with you if wanted. 

Sasheer [00:32:52] Yes! 

Nicole [00:32:53] I will do the front of the line thing with you because waiting for the lines is barbaric. 

Sasheer [00:33:03] Yeah. It’s much better to breeze through.

Nicole [00:33:07] Yeah, I’ll do that with you. That sounds like a nice time. I also want to go to Club 96 or whatever the fuck it’s called. 

Sasheer [00:33:14] Oh, yeah. Maybe it’s Club 365 or something. Yeah, I know what you’re talking about. I’ve heard about it, but I don’t know anything about it. 

Nicole [00:33:23] Me either. But back to the L.A. Auto Show. So, you know how you’re supposed to get 10,000 steps a day? The day I went to the L.A. Auto Show–I had also flown back from Chicago–I got over 10,000 steps and I was like, “So every day, am I supposed to go to the fucking airport and then the auto show? Who’s walking this much?” Who? Because I was walking for, like, hours. How are people getting 10,000 steps? 

Sasheer [00:33:51] I think, like, exercise. 

Nicole [00:33:54] But for how long? 

Sasheer [00:33:58] I don’t think they’re doing, like, naturally 10,000 steps. I think it’s like, “Oh, I took a walk on my lunch break,” or like, “I ran.”

Nicole [00:34:06] Oh. 

Sasheer [00:34:07] Or they have a job where they walk around a lot. But yeah, I think they have to plan it. 

Nicole [00:34:12] How many steps do you get on average. Do you know? 

Sasheer [00:34:16] I never check. I have no idea. 

Nicole [00:34:18] Do you have your phone near you? 

Sasheer [00:34:20] I don’t, but I can get it. I’ll go get it. 

Nicole [00:34:23] Go get it; pull that shit out. Jordan, how many steps do you take a day? 

Jordan [00:34:28] I also don’t know, but it’s not enough. I do know that. 

Nicole [00:34:31] Is your phone near you? 

Jordan [00:34:33] My phone is near me. What am I looking for on my phone? 

Nicole [00:34:37] So, okay, you got to go to Health. Oh, I deleted that. 

Sasheer [00:34:43] Jordan. 

Jordan [00:34:47] Yeah. I don’t have that.

Nicole [00:34:49] Oh, my God. I, like, barely fucking walk. Oh, this is when I had COVID. I was like, “200 steps?” 

Sasheer [00:34:58] Okay. Where do you find your steps? 

Jordan [00:35:01] I am not sharing mine. 

Nicole [00:35:05] I doubt it’s as bad as mine. You go to that heart that says “Health.” And then after you click on it, scroll down to Steps.

Sasheer [00:35:17] Oh, I see. So yesterday I got 8,500. 

Nicole [00:35:24] How? What were you doing? 

Sasheer [00:35:27] What was I doing? I guess I went out last night. 

Nicole [00:35:31] Oh my God. 

Sasheer [00:35:34] What else could I have been doing? What else was I doing? Maybe shopping? I guess I was walking around. Okay, so let’s see. Last week, my average steps were 4,705, and the week before that was 2,000. So, I think it just depends. I’m not always getting 8,000. I think it was very rare. 

Nicole [00:36:00] Okay, Jordan. What was yours for the week? 

Jordan [00:36:02] I don’t know if I can actually find it because I will just chuck my phone somewhere and it just doesn’t track me. 

Sasheer [00:36:11] Oh, yeah. 

Jordan [00:36:12] But I can tell you yesterday–I was, like, cleaning all around doing laundry–so I had, like, 3,000. But the day before, it was, like, 1,500 because I was literally at my desk all day, working. 

Nicole [00:36:28] What is your average? 

Jordan [00:36:30] My average… Maybe 2,000?

Nicole [00:36:35] Okay. My average this week was 2,566. The week before was only 1,200. And last Wednesday I only took 338 steps. 

Jordan [00:36:49] But I have those days, too. If I’m looking at mine, it’ll be like, “You should probably walk more.” But I edit all day; it’s hard to… 

Sasheer [00:36:59] Yeah. 

Jordan [00:37:01] I’m trying to be better. That’s, like, something for 2023. Moving more, going outside. 

Nicole [00:37:08] Is that going to be a resolution for you? 

Jordan [00:37:10] Me? Yeah, definitely. Moving more because I know that it brings me joy. 

Nicole [00:37:15] Oh, that sounds nice. 

Jordan [00:37:16] I just don’t get it. It’s just hard because you’re behind a computer all day. I have to listen to you guys. You guys won’t let me walk around. 

Sasheer [00:37:24] We didn’t tell you not to walk around. You can walk around while we’re talking. 

Nicole [00:37:28] Yeah. Get one of those floating, movable desks. I bought a little stepper guy. I have not used it once. I’m trying. I bought a trampoline. 

Sasheer [00:37:42] You bought a trampoline? 

Nicole [00:37:44] I bought a mini trampoline to fun-jump on. 

Sasheer [00:37:45] Wow. That’s fun. 

Nicole [00:37:48] Have I taken it out of the box yet? Sure haven’t. 

Sasheer [00:37:50] What is this stepper guy you’re talking about? 

Nicole [00:37:51] Um. How do I explain it? It’s a stepper. I watch this lady. I’m doing it with my feet. You can’t see. 

Jordan [00:38:04] Oh, it’s the in-place one where you just–? 

Nicole [00:38:08] Yes. 

Jordan [00:38:08] You Just plant your feet on a device, and you kind of just, like, swivel. 

Nicole [00:38:15] Yeah. It’s like an elliptical without the… Or, like, a stepper machine without any of the stuff in front. And it’s, like, portable. Also, I’m over the weight limit. I thought I researched it well enough. I did not. But it hasn’t broken under me, so that’s a good thing. I’m just, like, trying to figure out fun ways to move my body because I went to the doctor and she was like, “Friend. Your body is rotting from inside out.” 

Sasheer [00:38:42] Oh, here’s a separate thing. 

Nicole [00:38:43] That’s what I have. 

Sasheer [00:38:45] Okay. Okay.

Nicole [00:38:46] Got it from what? QVC! Home Shopping Network! Okay! 

Sasheer [00:38:51] Nice, nice, nice. This health app that tells us our steps reminded me of when I had a trainer and then I stopped seeing the trainer because I was like, “I don’t want to do this anymore. I just don’t want to.” But he was asking something about maybe my steps or something. I don’t know. There was something on the app that he wanted to see. But I was also tracking my period on this app and also my cervical mucus. And I couldn’t find whatever he was asking, so I just showed him my screen. And it said something like “creamy,” or, like, “creamy thickness,” or something like that at the top. 

Nicole [00:39:43] What a dream.

Sasheer [00:39:44] And he’s like, “Okay.” And then later I looked at the screen, and I was like, “Oh fuck.” I guess he got whatever information he needed, but he also knows that I currently have a creamy consistency. 

Nicole [00:39:57] He’s like, “I never wanted to know this about this person, but I know that they’re creaming.” That’s really funny. 

Sasheer [00:40:06] Yeah. So, you know, now I have that information in a different app. 

Nicole [00:40:11] I have a question. Okay. So, my pussy bleaches my underwear. 

Sasheer [00:40:17] That happens sometimes. Yeah. 

Nicole [00:40:18] I was really self-conscious about it, and I was like, “Something’s going on. It’s too powerful. It’s bad.” And then I would always, like–not wet wipe–but, like, feminine wipe it before someone went down on me because I was like, “I don’t want them to get their mouth bleached.” 

Sasheer [00:40:39] Aww. 

Nicole [00:40:41] And then I saw a video that was like, “No, you want your pussy to bleach your underwear. It means that the pH is right and it’s doing what it’s supposed to be doing.” And let me tell you… How come I don’t know stuff? 

Sasheer [00:40:58] Because that is not taught to us. For some reason that information is not specifically taught. I had to take other, like, Zoom classes about pH stuff, cervical mucus, or tracking yourself. There’s all this information out there that just isn’t automatically given to girls or women to learn about themselves. 

Nicole [00:41:25] It’s wild. You know what else I learned about? Boric acid. Do you use it? 

Sasheer [00:41:30] I don’t think so. No. 

Nicole [00:41:31] If your pH gets a little funky, they have these suppositories. And you just pop one. And for me, one every month kind of resets it and it’s, like, all good down there. But I kept going to the gynecologist being like, “Something’s going on, and I don’t know what it is.” And she was like, “Well, it’s not a yeast infection. It’s not a urinary tract infection.” And then she was like, “You should try these little boric acid suppositories.” And they were really helpful for me. And I also did some digging on the Internet. It took me a while to come to that conclusion to use those once a month or whatever.  But again, I was like, “How come nobody told me until now?” 

Sasheer [00:42:12] I know. I don’t know. You just have to, like, have a want and desire to investigate this on your own. 

Nicole [00:42:19] I’m almost 40 and I still don’t really know how my fucking vagina works. 

Sasheer [00:42:24] I know. 

Nicole [00:42:26] Isn’t it wild?

Sasheer [00:42:27] It really is. 

Nicole [00:42:29] I have gray hairs, and I’m like, “I don’t know how my body works.”

Sasheer [00:42:31] There needs to be, like, extensive courses on health and bodies. 

Nicole [00:42:36] I think so. 

Sasheer [00:42:38] Not just a general health course. Kind of how you take, like, Spanish 101, Spanish 201, Spanish 301. It needs to be Health 101, Health 201. Throughout grades, you need to be taking more classes. 

Nicole [00:42:52] Yes, it would be nice. I didn’t learn how to track my period until way later. For a long time, I’d be like, “I’m wild once a month, and I don’t know why.” And then finally, my therapist was like, “Do you think it’s PMS?” And I was like, “What?” But I’ve since discovered I also think I have PMDD. Do you know what that is? 

Sasheer [00:43:18] I don’t know what it stands for. Can you explain it? 

Nicole [00:43:21] So right before your period, it is intense PMF, heavy fucking mood swings, and then, like, a deep, deep depression where you go, “Maybe nothing’s worth it.” Then you start bleeding, and you’re like, “Okay.” The literal definition is you sabotage relationships. 

Sasheer [00:43:40] Whoa. 

Nicole [00:43:40] And there have been times where I’m just like, “Well, I won’t bother my friend. I shan’t. It’s not for me. Nobody needs me to call them ever again.” 

Sasheer [00:43:54] I need to track your period, too, so it’s like, “Oh, that’s why she’s not calling me.” 

Nicole [00:44:00] Honestly, I can let you know. I’ll get an app where I can let you know how long it is. I just give it to all my friends. I’m like, “This is why I’m crazy right now.” 

Sasheer [00:44:14] I think there actually is an app where you can share that information. I think it’s for partners, but you can share it with anybody, so that the person you’re with can be like, “Oh, she might be getting a headache,” or like, “She might be cranky for these reasons,” or like, “Uh oh. She might be craving these things.” So, they’re understanding your body like you are. 

Nicole [00:44:39] I dated a man where I was like, “Just ask me if my period is coming!” And he was like, “Are you fucking kidding? That’s a trap that I’m not walking into.” 

Sasheer [00:44:49] I know ’cause what if it’s the wrong time? And you’re, like, pissed. He asked that, and you’re like, “Actually, no. It just finished.” 

Nicole [00:44:56] “It finished. I’m being irrational because that’s who I am!” 

Sasheer [00:45:02] “This is me!”

Nicole [00:45:17] Oh boy. Sasheer, look at this box in my office. It is a chair. 

Sasheer [00:45:24] And is that one box, or is that two boxes?

Nicole [00:45:27] It’s, like, two boxes kind of finagled together. I don’t actually know. But I bought a chair for my desk because right now I’m sitting in, like, a kitchen chair, and it’s not comfy–not for me. So, I bought this, like, green and golden striped, yummy chair. They sent me a white one. 

Sasheer [00:45:50] That’s not what you ordered. 

Nicole [00:45:52] That’s not what I ordered. Also, I’m a messy bitch. It feels they were trying to sabotage me. 

Sasheer [00:45:59] We don’t want you in a white chair. 

Nicole [00:46:01] No. 

Sasheer [00:46:02] So you have to send it back? 

Nicole [00:46:03] Yeah. I have to fucking send it back, and I don’t want to deal with it. Do you know what I mean? Also, it was Urban Outfitters, and Urban Outfitters didn’t take the box. They didn’t unbox it and take the box. They don’t do that. They just deliver it, and then they don’t put your shit together either. I bought a bed. 

Sasheer [00:46:22] They don’t have a white glove delivery? 

Nicole [00:46:23] They do not have a white glove delivery, and their shit is too expensive to not have a white glove delivery. Anthropologie has a white glove delivery.

Sasheer [00:46:32] West Elm has a white glove delivery. 

Nicole [00:46:33] Everybody has a white glove delivery except for Urban Outfitters. They think I’m handy? I bought a bookcase from there, I was like, “Bitch, I don’t understand this.” That’s why I had to buy my power screwdriver. Then everybody looked at me funny at Home Depot. I’ll never forgive Home Depot for that. Made me feel like trash. 

Sasheer [00:46:51] I am so sorry. So, is the thing in the box the correct chair? 

Nicole [00:46:56] No. That’s what’s still in the box. 

Sasheer [00:46:57] I see. 

Nicole [00:46:58] And it’s so cute. And I’m so mad that it’s not here. I really want to sit my fat ass in a nice new chair. 

Sasheer [00:47:03] I’m so sorry. 

Nicole [00:47:04] I want a podcast comfortably. Should we answer questions? 

Sasheer [00:47:09] Yeah, let’s answer some questions. 

Jordan [00:47:12] Let’s try this one. 

Caller [00:47:15] Hi, Nicole and Sasheer. I have a best friend-related question for you. So, the question is as follows. My best friend of 10+ years has been very… I’m not going to say, “ghosting me,” but she’s been very aloof, let’s say, for a while. I don’t really know why. And I’ve been wanting to ask her, but I literally cannot get a hold of her. To be fair, she has always been very bad at responding to texts, very by answering the phone, very bad at getting back to you. Like, you really have to be persistent. This has always been the case in the ten years that I’ve known her. So that part is not new. But, you know, we don’t see each other very much. We used to see each other probably, like, every other week at least even though she is in school again, getting her upper degree, second degree, whatever. She’s back in school getting a master’s degree. I don’t see her anymore. She, earlier this year, had a really, really rough break up and is still remaining friends with the ex now. And she keeps calling him her best friend. And that’s the justification she has for why she’s still talking to him. She’s like, “Oh, well, I want to… I miss my best friend in my life.” And I was like, “But I’m your best friend.” And you can have more than one best friend, but ever since she’s been making more space for him in her life–even though he dumped her–she just kind of doesn’t make space for me anymore. She also just doesn’t really try to make plans again if they fall through. We were supposed to hang out last weekend for the first time in, like, six weeks. And then she got COVID. And then I texted her several days later and I was like, “Hey, are you feeling better? Are you doing okay? You need anything?” And she’s like, “Yeah, I’m better. Thank you!” But didn’t try to reschedule. And I’m autistic, so I can’t really read signs. And I can’t tell if this is, you know, her or her life being busy or her not wanting to talk to me anymore. And I don’t know how to get a hold of her to ask. I do know where she lives, but it seems messed up to just show up there without getting an invitation. So, any thoughts you may have on what the heck to do would be lovely. You guys have been friends for so long. Can you imagine just ghosting the other one with no explanation? Seems crazy, no? Anyway, have a lovely time. 

Nicole [00:50:03] I think you have to just talk to her because I know I do that sometimes where I’m like, “I got to give my friends space,” or whatever. And then I’m like, “Well, I won’t reach out. They seem a little busy.” And it seems like you’re doing what I’m doing, where you’re like, “I’m not reaching out because she’s in grad school, and she needs to hang out with her ex-boyfriend who’s her best friend, even though I’m her best friend. But she needs that friendship maybe more than our friendship or something.” I do that a lot where I make up whole stories–like full blown, 84-chapter stories–that just aren’t true because I haven’t asked anybody, and I just made it up in my brain. So, I think a nice thing might be, if you can get her on the phone, to have a phone call about it. Or maybe if she likes lasagna, make her a lasagna, and ask her to have a lasagna night. And then while you have lasagna night, be like, “Hey, I feel like we’ve been a little distant. Is it me or is there something I can help you with? I just miss you, and I miss my best friend.” And then hopefully she’ll be open and honest and explain to you what’s going on. Or it’ll continue, and then you have to take care of yourself. You have to stop reaching out maybe and take care of yourself because it’s not fun or fair to be in a one-sided thing. But if it’s not a real one-sided thing, and you’ve just been giving her space for no reason and she’s been taking it, then talk about it. 

Sasheer [00:51:44] Yeah. I like that. Yeah, I think you can maybe be like, “Hey, I know you’re busy with school and etc. Can I come over?” And this could maybe be the lasagna night or something. But maybe you make it easy for your friend–like, “I’ll come over to your place, I’ll bring snacks, whatever. We can hang out as long as you’re able to. I miss you. I would like to see you.” And then hopefully, while you’re there, you can have that conversation. And if that doesn’t happen, I think you can just text the question–like, “What’s going on?” Like, this person is receiving your texts and responding. So, you could just be like, “Hey, it feels like maybe we’re having some communication issues. I would love to hang out with you, but it doesn’t seem like you’re wanting to do the same. Is something up?” And I’ve had to do that. I had a friend who was ghosting me and kind of ignoring me. And it seemed like they were mad but not saying it. I couldn’t really understand what was going on. So, I just straight up said, “Hey, kind of feels like you’re ignoring me. Can I talk to you?” And then, like, they finally were like, “Yes, we can talk.” And we talked on the phone about it. But I had to literally call them out because otherwise it just would have been a weird, like, “what is happening?” thing and, like, maybe just petered out. But once they were confronted with, like, “I can see you, I can see what’s happening,” they were like, “Oh. Yes, I am doing that. Call me.” And then we talked, which is not great. That’s not a great way for that to happen, but… And not even saying that your friend is mad at you. But we don’t know. We really have no information at all because they’re not giving it to you. And so, you can’t just be like, “I’m just confused. We usually hang out. We are currently not. I miss you. I would like to hang out. Is something going on?” And it could be something that has nothing to do with you. They may not even notice and be like, “Oh, I was so preoccupied with this other stuff–with, like, my school, my ex, whatever. I didn’t even notice that I wasn’t hanging out with you that much. I’m so sorry.” We don’t know. But this person won’t be able to assess it until you bring it up. So yeah, I think no matter how you talk to this person, you need to bring it up in some way. And it could be the ex. I also had a friend who was consumed with a relationship and thought they had to, like, just be home more. And they kind of distanced themselves from their friends, not even because the partner was asking them to do that. They just on their own were doing that. And I was trying to reach out and was trying to, like, hang out. And then after a while, I was kind of like, “I guess they’ll just come to me when they need to.” And I just stopped, which felt weird and bad, but I was like, “I can’t overextend myself for someone who doesn’t want to hang out.” So, I just focused more on my other friends. And then eventually she got out of that relationship, came back, and was like, “Oof. I didn’t realize how off the grid I was.” And I was like, “Oh yeah, you were, like, extremely unreachable.” And she was like, “Oh, are you serious?” And I was like, “Yeah. I missed you. And I couldn’t get a hold of you. You were never around or available.” And she was like, “Oh my God, I’m so sorry. I didn’t realize I was doing any of that.” And I was like, “I mean, I’m glad you’re back.” But some people don’t realize what they’re in when they’re in it. 

Nicole [00:55:27] Yeah. And it might be the ex. And, like Sasheer said, she might come back later. I also had a friend who was, like, consumed with her boyfriend, and we just didn’t talk anymore. And then they didn’t have a great breakup. But when they finally broke up, she did explain what was going on, and I was like, “Oh.” But she also was not a great friend, and the damage was already done so we never really got back to where we were. But you know, I don’t wish that for you, and that’s not your truth. 

Sasheer [00:55:58] Yeah. That won’t happen to you. I think as long as you bring it up now and don’t wait for it to get worse… 

Nicole [00:56:03] Because I let that one go on for years. 

Sasheer [00:56:06] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don’t wait that long because you don’t want to fester and then build resentment or you’re, like, completely not talking at all. While this person is still responding to your texts, you know, either try to meet up and talk about it or say, “What’s going on, friend?” 

Nicole [00:56:20] Yeah, I love that. 

Sasheer [00:56:22] Yeah. 

Nicole [00:56:23] All right. 

Sasheer [00:56:24] All right. That’s all the time we have. 

Nicole [00:56:27] You’ll have to tune in to our next episode to hear more of our banter. 

Sasheer [00:56:33] Yes. Okay, well, I’ll take the reins here. So, if you want to dibble and dabble and listen to us gab about your issues, you can email nicoleandsasheer@gmail.com. Or call or text 424-645-7003. 

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Sasheer [00:57:06] Lastly, we appreciate your support and all the love you give to us on a weekly basis, so please don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe. That is the easiest way to support this show. 

Nicole [00:57:17] Good night. 

Sasheer [00:57:17] Good night.

Nicole [00:57:23] Boy, Sasheer. The way you read that took me out!