August 4, 2020

EP. 173 — Am I A Self-Karen? with Ashlee Marie Preston

Do you know where your donor dollars and time are actually going? Activist, thought leader, and founder of the social impact campaign YouAreEssential Ashlee Marie Preston joins Jonathan to discuss the trillion-dollar industry that is the US non-profit sector, the ways in which non-profit organizations can undercut to the aims of grassroots political movements, and how we can work to dismantle a system that doesn’t always serve the communities it claims to protect.

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JVN [00:00:00] Welcome to “Getting Curious.” I’m Jonathan Van Ness and every week, I sit down for a 40 minute conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious. On today’s episode, I’m joined by the activist and founder of YouAreEssential Ashlee Marie Preston, where I ask her: “Am I A Self-Karen?” Welcome to “Getting Curious.” I’m so excited to officially welcome Ashlee Marie Preston for our first like, like, I’ll hold up air quotes and say “official” “Getting Curious” episode.    ASHLEE MARIE PRESTON [00:00:29] Yes is happening. It’s happening.    JVN [00:00:32] We, I got to meet you for, initially from doing the New York City Pride event that you had so graciously invited me to be a part of. And that was when we first got to kind of really connect in real life. And since then, I’ve just been continually blown away by your brilliance and your activism. And you kn

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