EP. 370.5 — Last Looks: The Arrival

[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: Lozenges. Love. And Letterbox, all these things will be discussed today on How Did This Get Made Last Looks, hit the theme!

[00:00:08] Music: [Last Looks Intro song] [00:00:14] Paul Scheer: Hello all my fellow Mc DLT lovers. That’s right. You all know the importance of keeping the hot side hot and the cool side cool. Don’t worry. It’s in styrofoam. We don’t have to worry about it, it’s the eighties. Uh, I love that McDLT run that we did in the last episode.

[00:00:35] So much so that we made a shirt, a McDLT Arrival shirt. That is one of my favorite designs. Um, by the way, speaking of t-shirts, we just released our Toronto t-shirts, which are equally good. Uh, now in addition to balcony monsters, we have gallery urchins. Ugh. I hope we get to play another theater with a gallery.

[00:00:56] I wanna see all the urchins out there. Uh, I am your host, Paul Scheer, and welcome to How Did This Get Made Last Looks where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Charlie Sheen’s the Arrival. A movie that Discord user, Zilla 21 thinks could have been called, \

[00:01:10] “Some aliens like it hot.”

[00:01:13] I like it. Good. Alright. Thank you. Zilla 21 for that alt title. Remember, if you have an alt movie title or a tagline, submit it to us on our discord at discord.gg/hdtgm and we might just read it on the show. Alright, coming up on today’s episode, I will do my best to solve your problems on the return of Paul’s helpline.

[00:01:32] That’s right baby. It is back. We’ll be hearing all your corrections and omissions for The Arrival. And lastly, I will reveal the movie for next week. But first, before we get into anything, I wanna give a shout out to the one, the only Rob from Long Island. Rob, you bring in the heat all the time. You created that opening theme and I love it.

[00:01:53] It’s really good. We love these songs. If you have any Last Looks episode themes, go to HDTGM.com and click on submit a song button on your homepage. You can also find the submission link in the show notes for this very episode. Remember, keep ’em short. 15 to 20 seconds is best. Now before we jump into Paul’s helpline, I do wanna talk about something very serious.

[00:02:14] Um, since I can remember. I actually remember the day that I hired Avaryll to work on How Did This Get Made. She has been a part of the show for such a long time. And you know what you love about the show is. What I love about Avaryll, she has a great eye. She has amazing taste. Um, she has been fighting cancer, uh, for the last few months and she just finished two weeks of whole brain radiation therapy.

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[00:04:21] Music: [Paul’s Helpline Song] [00:04:42] Paul Scheer: Thank you, Action Jackson Five. I did you dirty by making you come in after that, uh, moment where we talked about Avaryll, but uh, we had to switch topics because now I’m here to help you. Uh, Jamison from DC What do you got?

[00:04:57] Listener: Hi, Paul, this Jameson from DC. You might remember me as the father of Rowan, AKA Jason’s God-son.

[00:05:06] Hi Jason.

[00:05:08] I’m wondering, um, he’s almost five now. What age would it be appropriate to get him into the terrible awesomeness that is the Fast and the Furious franchise?

[00:05:23] Paul Scheer: This is a great question. I am a parent who values my kids’ opinion of my taste, so I never want to introduce something to them before they are ready for it. Right? I try to find a really good entry point and you know, we often think, well, I have to start at the beginning if I’m gonna show ’em Fast and furious.

[00:05:44] No, no, no, no, no. You don’t. You don’t. As a matter of fact, I started showing my kids Mission Impossible, but I started with Ghost Protocol. That’s right. Number four. ’cause I knew it would be the one that was the most fun for them. And I’m gonna avoid, uh, five Rogue Nation and I’m gonna go to Fallout. We already saw, uh, the final reckoning.

[00:06:04] They did not see Dead Reckoning. Uh, but they are, uh. They’re interesting kids and you wanna make sure that you support them by delivering something that is not satisfactory for you, but for them. So I would say you gotta at least wait until they’re eight to 10, in my opinion. That is the appropriate age.

[00:06:24] Yes, they’ll watch it, but they won’t get it. They won’t love it. I made that mistake with Raiders of the Lost Ark. They liked it. You know what? When I brought my eight and 11-year-old to Goonies, they fucking loved it. So you gotta make sure your kids are, you know, are ready for it. You gotta find the right entry point.

[00:06:42] There’s something about Fast and Furious, like Fast Five might be your prime example of it. And I think you’d have to wait in about 10 or 11. Uh, that’s my gut. And I know people don’t want to hear that. They want to be like, oh, Paul, shoot, when they’re five, they won’t get it. It’s my same rule for Disney.

[00:06:57] Don’t bring kids there that can’t ride on the rides and not until they’re five years old. Don’t bring ’em to Disney. They’re not gonna remember it. But this is where we have to get our own ego outta the way. Be a good parent by making them think that you have good taste, but you show ’em something early, you show ’em Monty Python, you give them all this stuff and they don’t get it.

[00:07:15] They will not like it. They won’t respect you. They will be mad at you. Now, what have I shown my kids that they love? Dodgeball. They love dodgeball. They love Goonies. Uh, they love Elf. I mean, Elf is a. Classic. Uh, I have a whole list on my letterbox of movies that my kids are into, so you wanna check that out?

[00:07:35] Uh, you can see what I am watching with my kids that they love. Nutty Professor, another great one. Okay. Rachel from Baltimore. What do you got?

[00:07:43] Listener: Hey Paul, this is Rachel. And I had a question about something that I have now done that is very out of character for myself. I just booked a family camping trip for me and my two young kids and my husband.

[00:08:03] And we are not campers. We don’t, we’ve never gone camping. Um, so I wanted to know if you have any tips or tricks or anything to kind get us through 2 days of car camping technically, but camping nonetheless. Um, any help would be appreciated. Thanks so much.

[00:08:27] Paul Scheer: Have no idea for you. I don’t, I, you know, look, here’s the thing.

[00:08:33] I have a big rule of thumb about this. Again, same rule that Jameson had. You wanna make it fun for the kids, so, where are you camping? What are you doing? A lot of, keep the activities coming. Now my wife will argue that one activity a day is enough. I’m gonna argue that when you’re camping, you gotta do a lot of activities and you gotta be able to move.

[00:08:56] You gotta have a day that is flexible. You’re gonna go fishing and you’re gonna go over here. You know, you gotta make it fun. It, it’s gotta be the family friendly Disney version of camping, in my opinion, to make them want to go and do it again. You don’t wanna make them feel like they’re being tortured, right?

[00:09:13] Like, they don’t want to be like, oh, I can’t get iPad service, I can’t do this. I can’t, you know, you have to work overtime. If that’s cutting your vacation down a day to make it more jam packed, then do it. They’re gonna love sleeping outside. They’re also gonna be scared about that too. There’s a lot of things here.

[00:09:30] So I would say get some good games, fun games, uh, create like challenges. Do they like survivor? Create like a little survivor thing out there? You know, you have to gamify a lot of stuff, I think, in that way. I love sleeping outside, but you get bored. You get bored. Uh, I think it can be done. I want to know, Rachel, let me know when we bring back this segment.

[00:09:51] Jason from Minneapolis, what do we got?

[00:09:54] Listener: Hey, Paul had a question about how you handle picking movies and making them available, uh, like Date with an Angel was the movie that you showed here in November of 2023, but that never got a podcast episode. So I’m wondering. I’ve heard from other discussions, uh, disconnect the Discord, that you don’t always share the podcast if the film isn’t available to stream.

[00:10:25] And I know it’s complicated with licensing rights. Movies disappear from online, so I’m just wondering if that’s the issue or if there was some other problem, ’cause I’d like to hear that episode and also welcome you back. So please return. Thanks.

[00:10:41] Paul Scheer: You know, this is a great question. I’ve seen this a few times.

[00:10:44] Uh, the movie got pulled from all streaming and rental services right after the live show, and we wanna release it when it’s actually available again. So, uh, you know, it’s just so people can watch the movie. I know that not everybody watches a movie, but we have, we sometimes keep episodes in our back pocket.

[00:11:00] Um, you know, so, uh. Part of the fun of the show is having you all be able to correct and omit and all that sort of stuff. I know that they’re doing a DVD re-release because the actual director writer reached out to me about it. Uh, so. We will see, we will keep our eyes on it. Don’t think we’re hiding anything.

[00:11:19] We’re not gatekeeping. We just wanna create a great experience for the home audience. And that’s always our rule. The live show is the live show. The home audience is a whole different beast. Uh, and we treat them differently. So one day soon, we hope. Alright, that is it for all the calls today. Remember, you can always reach out to the show by leaving a message at 6 1 9 P-A-U-L-A-S-K.

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[00:13:39] Anyway, stick around because we will be right back with your questions, comments and concerns about Charlie Sheen’s, The Arrival.

[00:13:48] Welcome back everybody. Last week we talked at length about The Arrival. Well. You know we had questions and we might even missed a few things. Here’s your chance to set us straight. Fact check us, if you will. It is now time for Corrections and Omissions.

[00:14:00] Music: [Corrections and Omissions song] [00:14:01] Paul Scheer: Thank you. Thank you, brand new song, uh, submitted by Bears in Love. Thank you, Bears in Love, love to meet you. Uh, let’s go to the Discord. Danny the Wall says,

[00:14:11] “The biggest question I had throughout the movie is if the aliens are terraforming the earth so they’re able to live on it, how are they able to live on it while they are terraforming it?”

[00:14:21] Bam. Boom, bang. Now, Danny, I didn’t get that. I didn’t get that they were terraforming it for them to live on it. I thought they were terraforming it to, uh. Uh, like to bring back to their planet or maybe like to destroy it. So then it would be good for their, but you’re right, huh? Maybe they’re wearing oxygen packs.

[00:14:39] I don’t know, like that little breath thing that Obi One Kenobi has in the Phantom Menace. You know what I’m talking about? You know, his underwater breathing apparatus. Uh, Mitch Kappa, uh, you know, Mitch, I don’t know if I ever realize that your name is from Old. How did I not ever get that? Uh, Mitch Kappa writes,

[00:14:54] “Something about the mundanity of the day-to-day for most of the aliens we see in the movie got me thinking, are these aliens happy that they’re just on earth? Is working in a greenhouse gas factory here better or worse, or the same as what they’d be doing back home? I know somebody has to do it. Pave the way for the full takeover. But once that happens, will it be Party City for them or just the same shit, different day?”

[00:15:15] Mitch, I love this way you’re thinking, I mean, this is like the people who built the Death Star. Like are they getting satisfaction? I mean, these are construction workers, that’s all they’re doing, right? These are, they’re just looking for the next gig. They are union workers. They’re getting a good wage.

[00:15:26] They’re, they, this is neither, they don’t, they’re not like, oh my gosh, my race is gonna live on, it’s like the people who built the Death Star just like, yeah, this is a ju it’s a gig. It’s a gig. I’m, I’m, I’m working on an oil rig for a couple months. That’s kind of what I get from them. Far Fignutton. Oh wow. Old reference love that was amused to hear the diversion about the classic Nazareth song, hair of the Dog. I loved it.

[00:15:49] “I was understandably confused about the name of the song and band and why a song with the refrain, now you’re messing with a son of a bitch would be called Hair of the Dog. Now, the way I heard the story that was originally called Son of a Bitch, but you can’t say that on the radio, so they figured, oh well bitch is a dog and son is an heir. So, uh, since you know, heir of the dog sounded more like a common expression like hair of the dog, that’s. Why they named the song that.”

[00:16:14] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I love that. That is great. Perfect. All right, let’s go to the phones. Wow. I’m, I’m loving here. I love that we can talk about Nazareth on this show.

[00:16:26] Now you’re messing with a son of a bitch. I love that song so much. All right, here we go. Let’s go to the phones. Alex from Pasadena, what do you got?

[00:16:34] Listener: Hi Paul. Love the podcast. I’m calling in for The Arrival. They filmed this movie at the house behind mine in Pasadena, and I was about seven or eight years old.

[00:16:43] And I remember trying to look through the fence with my brother, see what was going on, but, uh, we couldn’t really see anything except through a small hole. So we fought over who could look through there, and there was a grapefruit tree. So naturally we started throwing grapefruits at each other, and then my brother decided to throw one over the fence at the film. Oh, about 10 minutes later, two police officers came to our house and apparently the grapefruit landed next to Charlie Sheen and he was not happy. So I told the cops what had happened and I got blamed for it, but no big deal. The funny thing is, instead of getting in trouble though, my family was invited to watch the film.

[00:17:20] And I think the scene we saw was where he was in the backyard yelling. I don’t really remember too much, but uh, I do remember the crew being nice and giving me a ton of snacks. So yeah, I can thank this movie for my first interaction with the police. Thanks.

[00:17:35] Paul Scheer: Whoa. Oh, that was great. Oh, man. Why did you throw a grapefruit at Charlie?

[00:17:43] He’s just trying to work. You know, Pasadena has the piss bandit, right? You’re not the piss banded, are you? Yeah. You know about the piss band at a Pasadena? He’s leaving his piss on these. Doesn’t do anything. Just leaves piss like on like, uh, electrical transformers. Just a jug of piss. Check it out. There’s like a documentary on, I think Last House on the Left.

[00:17:59] Alright, back to the Discord. Dr. Guts 1003 writes,

[00:18:02] “When Charlie Sheen comes back from Mexico and confronts actor activist Ron Silva. He at one point takes something out of his mouth. It looks like a red cough drop or a sucking candy. But then he holds onto it for the rest of the conversation, and at one point he even points his finger with it stuck at the end of his finger. Is this just an actor choice? Is it meant to be a callback or reference to something I missed? I mean, all I know is that I was disgusted to see him keeping that sticky, slimy thing on his hand.”

[00:18:28] Whoa. And you’ve included a screen grab of it. I now this movie has been long erased from my mind. It wasn’t a recording device? No? It wasn’t like some way that he was using to get past security. Uh, I don’t know. The aliens aren’t red. Maybe they hate cherry. Be a shame. You gotta like cherry, uh, I don’t know. Anyone know the answer to that? No one answered Dr. Gut. So, let’s see. I, I do wanna get to the bottom of that. Um, but I’m gonna say this, everything I know about Charlie Sheen, that is an actor’s choice.

[00:18:59] Keep the lozenge on the finger. I learned that in Michael Klein’s, uh, acting class where he said, don’t blink, uh, Spicy LYF writes,

[00:19:08] “Here’s a How Did This Get Made connection I’ve been thinking about since hearing The Arrival episode. We learned in the classic Speed 2 episode that one of the many actors who passed on the role of Jack after Keanu dropped out was Patrick Muldoon. This is in 97, and at this point he’s a soap actor with small film roles, but nothing major. That’s weird enough, but then, this episode, Paul tells us that Patrick Maldoon plays the lead in Arrival 2. Which comes out right around the same time as Speed 2. So what on Earth could have been so attractive about a direct to video sequel of the arrival that made him say yes compared to a terrible but theatrically released sequel to Speed? Make it make sense.”

[00:19:44] Uh, spicy. I’m gonna guess paycheck. Paycheck, paycheck, paycheck. Here’s the thing, you do Arrival 2, no one sees it. No one talks about it. You get that money and you go away. You take Speed 2,, everyone’s looking at you. You never get a movie again. So there’s a part of me that feels like it may seem like, oh, a bad career choice, but it actually might be a great career choice. ’cause he got to be a lead in a movie and he could say, oh, that’s Arrival 2, and then he could get a bigger movie instead of being the lead of Speed 2. And everyone going, that guy sucks. But Jason Patrick, I don’t think really took the brunt of that either.

[00:20:19] So who knows? I don’t know. Can someone ask Patrick Maldoon? Does anyone know him? Patrick Maldoon. Let’s ask him. Ian Sold Out says,

[00:20:25] “Okay. I did not watch the movie and I did zero research, but I came up with a theory when Paul read the log line for Arrival 2,, which contained the phrase, backwards kneed aliens Do the writers who, uh, I got the impression were trying to be a little too clever, create backward knees aliens, because aliens have backwards needs, IE, they need a hot atmosphere with lots of pollution, which is the opposite of human needs.”

[00:20:50] Ian Sold Out, I don’t think this movie is that clever. I love that you are.

[00:20:56] Alright. So many great corrections and omissions this week. Uh, but there can only be one winner. Uh, and look, I would normally give it to somebody who throws a grapefruit at Charlie Sheen, but you know what, in my entire time of doing the show, I have not been left stumped in a very long time. And, uh, Dr. Guts, you stumped me.

[00:21:14] So Dr. Guts, you are the winner this week for your lozenge question. And you know what? You get nothing but you do. Get this amazing song from Super Flava World. Hit it.

[00:21:26] Music: You win.

[00:21:30] Paul Scheer: Okay. If you wanna chime in with your thoughts about the latest episode, hit up our discord or call 619-PAUL-ASK once again, you can find our new song submission link at HDTGM.com and on the show notes for this very episode. Okay, coming up after the break, I will finally announce next week’s new movie. Be right back.

[00:21:51] Welcome back. By now, I’m sure you’ve noticed that every Tuesday we re-release a classic How Did This Get Made episode. Uh, this week we covered the Stephen King film, Dream Catcher with Jess McKenna and Curtis Gwynn. Next week’s matinee will feature character, who definitely appreciates the cool staying cool in the McDLT.

[00:22:07] That’s right. We’ll be talking about Mista Freeze. That’s right, because we are covering Joel Schumacher’s, Batman and Robin with Matt Nira and Jesse Falcon. No June. No Jason. That’s a rare one. Uh, so keep on checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Tuesday. Alright, without any further ado, it is finally time to announce our next movie.

[00:22:28] Alright, we are going from backwards knees to seven seas. That’s right, because next week we are watching the 1989 Fantasy Adventure Sinbad of the Seven Seas starring Lou Ferigno as Sinbad. Here’s a short breakdown of the plot.

[00:22:40] “Sinbad now must recover five magical stones to free a city from a wizard’s evil spell to help a prince win the hand of a beautiful princess.”

[00:22:48] There are not enough reviews on Rotten Tomatoes for a score. Uh, you think? So instead we turn to Letterbox where user Lil Command Ill, uh, writes,

[00:22:57] “It’s quite possibly the worst movie I’ve ever watched. Would watch again.”

[00:23:01] You know what? That’s how I felt too. Take a listen to the trailer.

[00:23:06] Trailer Audio: Mighty Lou Ferrigno brings to light the amazing adventures of Sinbad.

[00:23:14] Sinbad faces epic heralds and mighty armies in his quest to save the beautiful princess from the clutches of an evil sorcerer.

[00:23:25] Grant me the power to crush him.

[00:23:29] Magical monsters and mighty warriors.

[00:23:34] Paul Scheer: You can stream Sinbad of the seven Seas on Amazon Prime Video, FUBU and MGM Plus and Philo, or rented on Apple Tv.

[00:23:40] And make sure you are watching the Live Action Lou Ferrigno version, not the 2003 animated film, A Sinbad Legend of the Seven Seas. Also and totally unrelated to this week’s movie. I encourage you to check out Hoopla, Canopy, and Libby. They are digital media services offered by your local public library that allow you to consume movies, tv, music, audiobooks, eBooks, and comics for free.

[00:24:01] Support your library. Okay, because we wanna make sure that they are still standing. We can’t get rid of our libraries. That’s a beautiful place for people to do so many different things. We need to keep our public libraries open, so rent a movie, go there, just hang out. It is a great place. And thank you to the librarians for fighting the good fight.

[00:24:24] Alright, that is it for our show. Remember, rate and review it. That’s important. Rate and review our show wherever you listen on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts. We love it. And make sure you’re following the show as well. I also wanna remind you all to hit up Avaryll. Send her an email, send her a card, send her your love, uh, and make sure that you visit us on social media.

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