May 4, 2023
Jon Gabrus (101 Places to Party Before You Die) joins the HDTGM crew to break down the 2004 motorcycle action flick Torque, a film that answers the question, “What if rap rock was a movie?” They discuss Ice Cube’s sticky cell phone, the Carpe Diem jacket, Dane Cook’s cameo, and so much more. Plus, Torque co-star Adam Scott sends in a message detailing his experience on the movie and Gabrus performs a SHOCKING act to protect his fellow Long Islanders from danger.
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318 — Torque LIVE! (w/ Jon Gabrus)
Paul Scheer [00:00:00] It’s one thing to say seize the day, but you really know that you mean it when you wear a leather jacket that says Carpe diem. We saw Torque! So you know what that means.
Music [00:01:06] [Intro Song].
Paul Scheer [00:01:11] Hello people of Earth and hello people of Los Angeles! We are live here at Largo, our home in L.A.. It is 4/20. And this is a perfect movie to celebrate this amazing holiday. The film Torque, a film made by the same people who made Fast and Furious. They said, We did it with cars. Let’s do with motorcycles. They figured it out. Now, when this film was made, oh, let’s see, in 2004, it did not spawn as many sequels as the Fast and Furious franchise. So sorry, but we do get this film with How Did This Get Made all star Adam Scott as a FBI agent who might be the best part of the entire movie. But if you’ve not seen the film, how can I sum it up? Well, it’s complex. It’s about a guy who likes motorcycles, gets involved in a weird drug thing that he didn’t know about, and then leaves to go to Thailand. FBI comes in, they’re like, Hey, where’s that drug guy? No one knows. Then he waits. A cool six months, comes back to his hometown. His girlfriend’s like, Where the fuck were you? And there’s some bad guys. We don’t know why they’re a bad guy, but one of them is Ice Cube. Then there’s the drug dealer bad guy. Long story short, our Thailand guy gets framed for a murder he didn’t commit. Cops are after him. Both bad guys are after him. And this is the film Torque. I think that’s the most succinct way to put it. I’m not sure. Okay, so this movie rules, and I can’t wait to break it down. And I can only do it with my co-host. So please welcome to the stage Mr. Jason Mantzoukas.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:03:38] What’s up, jerks? How we doing, Largo?
Paul Scheer [00:03:45] Welcome, Jason.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:03:47] Wow. Holy shit.
Paul Scheer [00:03:50] This movie. I know you love bikes. I know you like hogs.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:03:56] Yeah, I know I do, bro. You know? You know, I arrived here on a Kawasaki.
Paul Scheer [00:04:01] There was an article in a motorcycle magazine.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:06] That you subscribe to.
Paul Scheer [00:04:07] Of course. Still get the physical media. Support physical media. And it was like, even though Torque sucks, here are the four greatest scenes. And it’s so technical about motorcycles that I couldn’t even get through it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:20] My update my update for Motorcycle magazine is you’re wrong, Torque doesn’t suck. Give me the Torque-verse.
Paul Scheer [00:04:31] I believe, and I’m going to put this out here now that Fast and Furious. It took five films for them to figure it out. Torque figured it out day one.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:42] They did. Torque did Fast Five level stunts in number one.
Paul Scheer [00:04:46] Yep.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:46] This was nuts. Like we used to talk about it when I can’t remember moves Fast Seven or eight or one of them where it was like, Oh, they’re fighting as if their cars are fists.
Paul Scheer [00:04:56] Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:57] That happens in this movie. They’re fighting as if the bikes are extensions of their bodies, not things that are going 140 miles an hour. And then they’re like.
Paul Scheer [00:05:08] No, I didn’t know motorcycles could do this much. But that’s why we have a motorcycle expert here, someone who knows what it’s like to ride at 150 miles an hour every single day. And my other co-host, please welcome June Diane Raphael. Welcome, June. How are you?
June Diane Raphael [00:05:43] I’m well. How are you, Paul?
Paul Scheer [00:05:44] Very good. Thank you for asking. June, You like bikes? I know you like bikes.
June Diane Raphael [00:05:49] You’re so wrong, I.
Paul Scheer [00:05:53] Didn’t you asked me to ride a bike. Are you?
June Diane Raphael [00:05:55] Paul. I hate motorcycles. I don’t believe they have a place on our roads.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:03] Fully agree.
June Diane Raphael [00:06:05] They don’t. And actually, I. I haven’t told Paul this yet, but I’m planning on asking our children to promise us they will never get on a motorcycle.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:14] We have so many regulations and restrictions on what cars have to have as safety features. But we also allow motorcycles. It’s just you go as fast as you want open just.
June Diane Raphael [00:06:31] It’s unacceptable.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:33] Just on the wheels.
Paul Scheer [00:06:34] And it’s totally legal for you to drive in between cars like that is expected.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:39] Somebody did it on my way here last night. I was driving and there was traffic and somebody was coming through like on the other side. But in my lane because there’s traffic on the other side coming towards me. And I swear to God, I pointed my car right at him and I was like, No, no, this is my lane. This isn’t for you to cheat on. Yeah, I killed that guy.
June Diane Raphael [00:07:05] You know what? And I want to bring out our guests next. But that’s where I struggle with motorcyclists or cyclists or bikers or motorcyclers. But I because I’m just like, I know you have a death wish and I don’t know what to say to you about that. Like, I don’t know why you don’t like this life.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:25] But why are you in such a hurry to end it?
June Diane Raphael [00:07:29] Why do you want to die so bad?
Paul Scheer [00:07:31] I will say this. I just realized right now I rode motorcycles as a kid on the back of motorcycles because my.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:42] Wow. As a kid. As a kid, you had access to horses and motorcycles?
Paul Scheer [00:07:46] They’re the same thing. One just has wheels, the other have hooves.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:50] Thank you. Thank you for breaking that down for us.
Paul Scheer [00:07:57] Motorcycles are the horses of now.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:58] A lot of people. A lot of people listening to the pod saying to their partner, see, I told you.
Paul Scheer [00:08:04] But I’m realizing that my step father would always tell me that when he got into a motorcycle accident, he had a peg leg. And I never drilled down on that until this minute. That’s not possible. He didn’t have a peg leg. He said he had a peg leg under his leg leg like it was like they had recovered, like he got to a motorcycle accident, lost his leg and then reskinned it. And I’m realizing.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:35] Only now?
Paul Scheer [00:08:37] That I never questioned it since I was a child, Like I was like peg leg. Oh, I just it didn’t come up in my mind until this very moment.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:45] Have you ever told a story prior to now about your stepfather’s false leg? Peg leg as you call it. Yeah. Was he a pirate?
Paul Scheer [00:08:55] He always said it was a peg leg and he would try to make me feel…
June Diane Raphael [00:09:01] Careful, babe. Careful. Let’s keep it light. It’s a Thursday night.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:06] Whatever epiphany you’re about to have let’s do it off stage.
June Diane Raphael [00:09:10] Let’s do it offstage, babe. Let’s put it off.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:12] So whatever repressed memory is about to happen, let’s. Let’s do it in the green room after the show, my guy.
Paul Scheer [00:09:19] All I’m saying is, if I told you that story, a 60% chance that was false, that he had a peg leg. I still want to drill down. I want to talk to the doctors. Now, I mentioned earlier it’s 4/20 and we wanted to have the perfect 4/20 guest. We also wanted to have a perfect guest that knows everything about action movies. You know him from his podcast High and Mighty and the Action Boys, please welcome John Gabrus.
John Gabrus [00:09:57] Vroom, vroom, bitch.
Paul Scheer [00:09:59] Vroom, vroom. Welcome, John. Welcome. Welcome. Now, June said earlier, Jason, you’re going to get a lot of Long Island on stage and you’re looking at a Long Island block right here. John Block Island. Strong Island.
June Diane Raphael [00:10:16] Yeah. It’s it’s great to be together, you know.
John Gabrus [00:10:19] Yeah, it’s it’s nice that we’re not fighting on the Long Island Railroad.
June Diane Raphael [00:10:23] It is.
Paul Scheer [00:10:26] John, you have seen this film?
John Gabrus [00:10:28] I have seen Torque. Of course you.
June Diane Raphael [00:10:31] You saw Torque before this podcast.
John Gabrus [00:10:34] I saw Torque before this podcast. Yeah. Torque. Oversold itself pretty hard, if I remember correctly. I remember being like, Fuck, Torque is back.
Paul Scheer [00:10:43] Yeah, we’ll Torque.
John Gabrus [00:10:45] I was just saying Torque is like the word. Like a word. I remember this movie coming out and me learning what Torque was. It’s like stigmata. It wasn’t till the movie came out that I was like, What does that mean? And someone explained it. I was like, Oh, that’s cool.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:10:57] The movie, the movie Stigmata or Passion of the Christ Passion.
John Gabrus [00:11:02] I guess I’m talking about the time my dad’s hands and feet started bleeding. Then he explained, Stigmata is exactly a movie, if that will help you learn it, put it on. He was like a substitute teacher. He walked away.
Paul Scheer [00:11:12] I do. I do think that torque is not a great name.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:17] Terrible name.
Paul Scheer [00:11:18] Yeah, it’s.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:18] If it wasn’t called Torque, there would be nine of them.
Paul Scheer [00:11:21] I do know.
June Diane Raphael [00:11:22] It’s like, why call it Torque?
Paul Scheer [00:11:24] Yeah, I’m going to try to define it.
John Gabrus [00:11:26] I can’t believe it’s not called carpe diem. With car spray painting after.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:31] Incredible. Can I tell you, it wasn’t until 45 minutes into the movie that I noticed his jacket said, Carpe diem. And I just about lost my mind. I was like, now we’re cooking.
Paul Scheer [00:11:45] When he did his first hero shot and I saw it, I was like, Wait, is that a joke? This has to be a joke. I mean.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:52] Well, he can’t wear it for the rest of the. He can?
June Diane Raphael [00:11:54] He did.
Paul Scheer [00:11:56] By the way, Torque is the measure of force that can cause an object to rotate about an axis. So is that just.
June Diane Raphael [00:12:06] Like the way I think of Torque is you’re pulling something back before you’re letting it go. And that whatever that is, that amount of pressure is the Torque?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:20] Is there a Torque, a Torque expert?.
John Gabrus [00:12:22] Open your Torque books to page 42.
Paul Scheer [00:12:25] I’m going to go and talk to our Torquespert.
John Gabrus [00:12:31] There’s just a guy in like Orange Leathers that says carpe diem, I guess. Ask him. He speaks Latin.
Paul Scheer [00:12:38] Ladies and gentlemen, Martin Henderson is here. Martin.
John Gabrus [00:12:41] Oh, shit. He’s. He parked my car.
Paul Scheer [00:12:47] Torque. And motorcycles. How do they relate?
David [00:12:49] It’s rotational force. So with motorcycles, because there’s a enormous amount of power versus a small wheel with direct power, you can take off very fast. That’s why assholes take off on off the line really quickly. Also, people in Teslas.
Paul Scheer [00:13:03] Oh, wow.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:04] Okay. What’s your name? David. Give it up for David.
June Diane Raphael [00:13:08] David knows torque.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:12] That’s how you answer a question. Informative, succinct. Didn’t try to grab the mic.
Paul Scheer [00:13:21] Well, we know this movie is going to be about motorcycles, because the first thing that we see is this little.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:28] Do you think that this was.
June Diane Raphael [00:13:30] I did not noticed that.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:31] Did you think that all of the antique car stuff was purposefully trying to start a beef with Fast and Furious?
June Diane Raphael [00:13:37] Well, I don’t know. But why then name your main character, Ford?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:41] Great question.
Paul Scheer [00:13:42] Wow. But it does feel like this movie is coming at you from a place that we aren’t sharing. It’s like you see these cars pull up and you’re like, Oh, shit, it’s a car movie. It’s like, No, fooled you. The sign says, “Cars suck.” Fuck you. We’ve all thought it and we’re like no, we haven’t. Like it. It’s coming so aggressive that you that like. Finally, this is a movie about motorcycle and motorcycle problems. But we don’t. I feel like they could have brought us into this world a little bit nicer, like, Hey, no, no, no.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:20] They drop you in, like, hard. And not only that, it first says okay. It seems as though the central competition of the movie is going to be cars versus bikes. Sure, there’s the bikers who are on the road and the cars are like, Fuck you. And they’re like, Haha! We’re the bikers. But then it’s just the cars go away entirely. Then it’s just a movie about motorcycles that go anywhere.
Paul Scheer [00:14:46] I don’t know where this movie takes place.
June Diane Raphael [00:14:49] And I was shocked when they said L.A., because I thought for sure, Florida. I thought, there’s no way we’re not in Florida.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:56] Most of this movie is shot between here and Morongo.
Paul Scheer [00:15:00] And there’s there’s a moment where they’re like, I feel like there’s a moment where they’re straight up in the Dominican Republic, and then they’re all of a sudden by Dodger Stadium. I’m like.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:12] That’s just how good this movie is.
John Gabrus [00:15:16] That’s how fast motorcycles are. If you’re going 160 miles an hour, you can be to and from the Dominican Republic in a heartbeat, bro.
Paul Scheer [00:15:25] Well, you’re right about this. Like these car guys, we know car guys are bad because the first thing we see them do is try to beat a child. Like. Like I know there’s save the cat, but here it’s like save the kid.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:39] Even before that. Just in the opening scene where you just saw the cars suck, like the cars are drag racing fast and furious style. Yes. The movie is truly a fuck you to the Fast and Furious movies.
Paul Scheer [00:15:50] Made by the same guys.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:52] Neal Moritz, producer of both. Incredible stuff. But the guys are funny. They even have like Nas injectors and they’re doing all of the Fast and Furious mechanics. Yeah. And then the motorcyclists come in and like, eat shit. And the people in cars are just dismissed.
John Gabrus [00:16:12] Well, throughout this movie, we find the first interactions that most people have with each other is absolutely antagonistic.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:20] At a level that is like 150 percent.
John Gabrus [00:16:22] The inciting incident of the whole movie is a guy drives a motorcycle, past another guy on a motorcycle, and he’s like, that was so fast. I’m going to eventually frame this guy for my death.
Paul Scheer [00:16:33] I will I will say that maybe it is about being on a motorcycle. Your body’s shaking so much, you’ve unscrewed some something in your brain. You just. Yeah, you’re just you’re you’re constantly mad.
June Diane Raphael [00:16:47] I imagine that if you’re on a motorcycle that much like when you get off you’re still always living with the sensation of moving 150 miles an hour. That’s why you can never, you can never settle down.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:59] And there’s also an element which is present in the movie. I feel like this whole movie is asking the question, What if rap rock was a movie?
John Gabrus [00:17:11] Made at the most unfortunate time in American history.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:13] Right?
John Gabrus [00:17:14] The year I graduated college where esthetics disappeared for one year and they were like, You know what? People like garbage. This movie’s not old enough to be cool and it’s not new enough to look good. It like lands in this period of time where you’re like, really? Jenko khakis? Okay.
Paul Scheer [00:17:32] And and you also like it does feel like we talked about a film credit in the last episode about like “suggested by” this feels like suggested by Kid Rock’s dream. Like it feels like you think yeah And then they kill him with a motorcycle thing and FBI guy he’s in on it too. And then they’re on top of a train and it’s heroin and fuck. Boom! Everybody fucking blows up the GoPro cameras in their faces.
June Diane Raphael [00:17:56] But Paul, I do want to I do want to try to understand a little bit more about what the basic plot of this movie is.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:03] Great. I love it.
June Diane Raphael [00:18:03] Okay.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:04] What do you think it is?
June Diane Raphael [00:18:05] A step back. I have a lot to say about Shane’s business. Shane’s Shane’s. Because from what I understand.
Paul Scheer [00:18:13] Shane is the love interest, right?
June Diane Raphael [00:18:15] Yes, of course.
Paul Scheer [00:18:16] I want to ask about this, too.
June Diane Raphael [00:18:17] Yeah, I have some questions about her business, but. Shane had a shop. Shane’s.
Paul Scheer [00:18:23] It seemed like an outdoor flea market.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:25] No, no, that’s not the shop. That’s just at the bike rally. That’s her tent. At the bike rally that.
June Diane Raphael [00:18:32] A pop up.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:35] Glass shelves, glass shelves, each with one single rearview mirror. Well.
John Gabrus [00:18:40] She went to the car festival with five rearview mirrors and a pistol.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:44] Like the set design for her tent was bananas.
Paul Scheer [00:18:47] But this movie is, especially in the beginning, mostly shot through rearview mirrors. It’s like everybody has a rearview mirror. Let’s only do reflection shooting.
June Diane Raphael [00:18:58] So at the bike shop, people have retailers have paid, I’m sure, some sort of participation fee to be there. Sure. Right. So then they sort of show their wares and.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:08] Show their wares.
June Diane Raphael [00:19:10] I assume she’s there to take care of bikes. Correct?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:13] I think she’s there to sell people parts for their bikes.
Paul Scheer [00:19:17] Because a lot of rearview mirrors are getting knocked off by motorists.
June Diane Raphael [00:19:20] Okay, so you’re saying that at Shane’s. So at Shane’s store proper. What is the business? She is just.
Paul Scheer [00:19:27] That’s what I can’t figure out.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:28] I assumed it was like she was the mechanic and. And selling parts.
John Gabrus [00:19:34] You guys are saying this movie is confusing. You’re saying there’s only one Torque? I can’t believe it. This is technically Torque 4.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:43] What are you talking about?
John Gabrus [00:19:44] Watch this movie. When you watch this movie, they talk about so much shit that has already happened. That is so important. This is like, Well, remember I went to Thailand because you got raided for this. Their talking about shit that happened a long time ago. They’re dealing with actively in this. This movie is like, All right, everyone back from vacation? Let’s sort out the meth bike shit.
Paul Scheer [00:20:11] People like, oh shit, Martin is back. Or, you know.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:15] I feel like know, I hate to correct you, but it was Indo-China. Which is used multiple times in this movie.
June Diane Raphael [00:20:23] But I really feel like, wow, I would love to see some of that that you’re talking about over and over.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:30] Like, oh, there’s a history here that will unfold.
June Diane Raphael [00:20:34] Noever does.
John Gabrus [00:20:35] Because without seeing any of that history, the bad guy gang is so bad for no reason.
June Diane Raphael [00:20:41] Okay, so here’s my question, Gabrus. So, Ford, what has he done? He was sort of fooled by.
John Gabrus [00:20:50] Ford was told to watch some motorcycles and he had a nice relationship.
June Diane Raphael [00:20:54] And he worked where at that time? That’s my question. Where did he work?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:01] Oh, I think he’s just a freelance motorcycle guy.
June Diane Raphael [00:21:05] So he does.
John Gabrus [00:21:05] He’s all 1099. He got podcasting at the time.
June Diane Raphael [00:21:10] Got it. Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:10] So basically he got.
June Diane Raphael [00:21:12] So he’s just doing this for a friend because he misjudged his character. That makes Ford look like a fucking idiot.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:19] Oh. Every single person in this movie is a stone cold moron. Full stop. They don’t notice any of the set ups. None of the double crosses. They don’t even notice an obvious frame job when they see it.
June Diane Raphael [00:21:34] It’s just so wild, though, to not give him any stakes to have done that. Not that shit. Shane is not at risk. He just was wrong.
Paul Scheer [00:21:44] Dealing drugs on the side. And he made a mistake. He got in over his head.
June Diane Raphael [00:21:47] To pay for someone’s health care. I needed something to latch onto.
Paul Scheer [00:21:52] He was told to watch some motorcycles like.
June Diane Raphael [00:21:55] Didn’t question.
Paul Scheer [00:21:56] I wonder why. Then he opens up. The gas cap is like meth or heroin. Whatever it was. He’s like, Oh, shit, let me get that out of here and then let me leave town and.
John Gabrus [00:22:10] And I’ll leave this in my girlfriend’s shop. Say nothing. Move to Southeast Asia and a country TBD. While I’m gone shop gets raided. Shane turns against me. Nothing happens to the bad guy.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:24] And nothing but also nothing happens to Shane, which is his excuse for why he took off, which is not to bring all of that down on her. Like what?
John Gabrus [00:22:32] But these bikes are never found. It sounds.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:34] At the end of the movie, they’re found.
John Gabrus [00:22:36] No they are.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:37] No, they’re not. You’re right, they’re not. He’s hidden them because he realizes they’ve got drugs in them. He realizes that that makes him look suspicious to Adam Scott’s FBI. Is he FBI?
Paul Scheer [00:22:47] He is FBI. He’s gang task force. If you want to see his introduction. Adam, Adam’s introduction is is kind of the best moment here. Adam, by the way, kills it. This movie. He’s very good.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:01] He’s in the movie. I wish everybody else was in. You know what I mean? I wish everybody else was in the movie.
June Diane Raphael [00:23:09] And Justina. I wanted to watch their scenes.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:14] 100%. They’re in they are tuned to the right frequency for this movie in a way that nobody else but maybe Cube is, you know what I mean?
Paul Scheer [00:23:23] And I want to get into Cube in a second. Not his performance, but his character. Here we go.
Movie Audio [00:23:27] Agent McPherson, Federal Gang Task Force.
Movie Audio [00:23:30] You don’t look like your typical Fed.
Movie Audio [00:23:32] What’d you expect? Cheap suit. Late model Taurus, $10 haircut.
Movie Audio [00:23:37] How did you all get here so fast?
Movie Audio [00:23:39] Oh, get this many jacked up motor heads in one place all wearing colors and bound to happen pays to be close. This is Agent Henderson. John Doe had a good looks for you. She’s still one of the best field operatives.
Paul Scheer [00:23:51] When you see her come on. I was like, Did she step out of The Matrix Reloaded?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:55] There’s a bunch of Matrix shit throughout this movie. The final motorcycle chase through the streets of New York City.
Paul Scheer [00:24:02] That, by the way, seems like, Yeah, or where we are.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:06] They’re not in New York City. They’re downtown L.A., But it looks like it looks too busy for downtown L.A..
John Gabrus [00:24:12] It’s crazy that this movie takes place in L.A. And I think the craziest part is when the bad guy says, like, we’ve got $1,000,000 in there. And I’m like, Bro, that can’t even buy you a house here. You’re like, killing people over and over $1,000,000 of crystal meth. Fuck, dude, you got to go to Torrance.
Paul Scheer [00:24:32] I don’t even know. I don’t even know where they’re finding their industrial factories to have their rave, because that seems to also be centrally located like. Because they have a race to her house, which looks like it’s so suburban, like, Oh, are we in Ohio now? And he’s like I’ll buy you a drink and now we’re in a fucking rave. We’re literally like hot lava or like steel is being smelted on some level because I’m seeing.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:03] The other big thing, in that when they’re in the, in the first act, when they’re at the like Sturgis style bike rally or whatever and all the everybody’s, you know, racing up and down and peacocking and showing off, the radio person, The DJ at one point says we’re going to have highs from 94 to 103. Can you imagine how bad that place smelled? Disgusting.
John Gabrus [00:25:27] Imagine drinking out of the leg of the carpe diem leather pants. Oh, just the fucking shake the fucking groin sweat out of your carpe diem.
Paul Scheer [00:25:39] And, you know, and you know, they’re smelling it because every man speaks to the other man no more than four inches apart. Like they like they will. There is a rules. Like if you are more than four inches away from each other, got to close that gap. It’s like people are in each other’s mouths.
John Gabrus [00:25:57] And the Sturges thing. How great. Henderson has a Ramones T-shirt. He has like a hot topic Ramones shirt. It’s like this dude, if he’s 25 in ’04 is not into the Ramones in the biker world.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:12] No, absolutely not. No.
Paul Scheer [00:26:14] He learned about the Ramones in Indo-China.
June Diane Raphael [00:26:18] Is there a biker culture in L.A.?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:21] Absolutely.
June Diane Raphael [00:26:22] Oh, okay. I didn’t know.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:22] Absolutely right.
Paul Scheer [00:26:24] I do you have a question about. Because when Ice Cube’s gang rolls up on Ford, why is he mad at him?
John Gabrus [00:26:33] Okay, so that is the entire inciting incident.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:36] This is crazy.
John Gabrus [00:26:37] He drives past Junior. Junior, Cube’s brother, too fast. Kind of shakes him and knocks him off the bike and he’s like, God damn, chases him down. Pulls a fucking knife on him. We get to see a cool reflection in the knife.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:52] Great shot.
Paul Scheer [00:26:53] If there’s anything that can reflect, we will shoot through it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:56] I will say the movie’s shot well. They shot the shit out of this movie. Because I was never confused. I was so confused about the plot of the movie, but I was never confused geographically where people were. I was never confused as to what was happening. Who was where.
Paul Scheer [00:27:11] Only at the end, when the motorcycle is going 150 or maybe 500 miles an hour, at that point I don’t know what happened.
John Gabrus [00:27:21] The phrase Rolls Royce helicopter jet. Those are three different things. And like it’s carbon. Jesse’s built on a Rolls-Royce helicopter jet engine. It’s like, what dog?
June Diane Raphael [00:27:35] There is so much actually way too much tongue acting in this movie. Everybody had their tongues out and was communicating with their tongues.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:44] It was 2004.
June Diane Raphael [00:27:46] No, it did feel like that.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:48] When tongue rings were new and everybody was like, tongues are a thing.
June Diane Raphael [00:27:51] It was the time when people were like, I’ll take my tongue out, you know, like there wasn’t a stigma around it.
Paul Scheer [00:27:59] I mean, we’ve now seen two really amazing performances by Jamie Presley. Jamie Pressly.
June Diane Raphael [00:28:05] She was freaky. She scared the shit out of me in the movie. I was like, this woman I do not want to meet her.
John Gabrus [00:28:12] She threaded a perfect needle for me in that she terrified me and aroused me. And what is the woman’s name? Who’s playing Chase? Monet Mazur.
Paul Scheer [00:28:23] Oh, yeah, that’s.
John Gabrus [00:28:24] I was like when that came up, I was like, Oh, must be a French trained actor I’ve never heard of or whatever.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:28] No. When they do ballet based like fight sequence on top of motorcycles, I was like, This is everything. Yeah. I feel like the filmmakers were like, We’re doing Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
Paul Scheer [00:28:42] Sponsored by Mountain Dew.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:44] On motorcycles sponsored by PepsiCo.
John Gabrus [00:28:48] Oh, man. And a little Budweiser. Budweiser got a few bottles broken over people’s heads, but with like a freeze frame label.
June Diane Raphael [00:28:55] King of beers.
Paul Scheer [00:28:57] All I wanted to do and I looked for it all day to day, was to find breakaway bottles, because the amount of littering they do in this movie is.
June Diane Raphael [00:29:05] Unacceptable. That scene where Ford and Shane are on that little like playground at that little playground area, he just finish the bottle of beer and throws it down on the ground. Yeah. I’m sorry. Aren’t they at a children’s park? Wild.
Paul Scheer [00:29:24] They’re throwing it down by a children’s park.
John Gabrus [00:29:26] Children’s park makes you sound like an alien who just, “Take me to the children’s park.”
June Diane Raphael [00:29:30] Not a playground. A children’s park.
John Gabrus [00:29:31] That seems to be a playground. I’m looking for a children’s park.
June Diane Raphael [00:29:36] A park for them and them only.
Paul Scheer [00:29:40] There was a moment where they’re eating. And again, I think this is a movie about bike culture made by people who don’t know bike culture.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:48] You don’t think so? I also think this is a movie about gun culture that they don’t understand how guns work because they precision fire shoot sawed off shotguns at people to be able to like, break their handcuffs apart. A shotgun sawed off shotgun blast at close range would demolish your whole body. It’s a scatter.
John Gabrus [00:30:12] It would blow their hands off, literally.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:16] They’re like and they’re like, bam! Okay. Thank you so much. They would blow their arms off. Everybody in the movie would be dead.
John Gabrus [00:30:25] This movie suffers from G.I. Joe slash A-Team rules. Yes. Where they’re like everyone’s firing machine guns and guns. But the combat always just ends up being, like, nudging each other off a bike at the end. There’s literally a line where he’s like, Meet the twins.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:40] Did you guys see the spider descending from the cieling. Of course. 4/20. Long Island. That stays here.
Paul Scheer [00:31:08] Don’t say a word.
John Gabrus [00:31:09] People say what did Gabrus do? You don’t say a goddamn thing about the fact that he ate a spider. Hey I heard you were at that show where Gabriel died afterwards.
Paul Scheer [00:31:21] Look, bro, what happened?
John Gabrus [00:31:23] I’m not allowed to say anything, but on the reddit, they’re wondering why Gabrus mysteriously died.
Paul Scheer [00:31:29] Dude, that was straight up Henry James, man, that was crazy. Like Henry.
June Diane Raphael [00:31:34] So all I saw, so many things just happened in my body. So many things. Like you.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:39] Kiss it first.
June Diane Raphael [00:31:40] I didn’t see. I did not see the spider first. I just saw Gabrus go. Like his eyeline was over here. And I was like, Well, one of you have come on stage and are about to.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:51] I’ve been watching it for a while.
June Diane Raphael [00:31:52] So you were when I was like, Wow, this is it. You know, like, you’ll this is how you’ll die. And then to see a spider and then to see what happened next. Wow.
John Gabrus [00:32:02] I just want to protect my fellow cast members.
Paul Scheer [00:32:04] That’s some Long Island protection right there. A-plus. Let me talk about.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:13] I can’t wait till the end of the show and Gabrus’ tongue has swollen.
John Gabrus [00:32:16] When I fall down, my head splits open in a million baby spiders come running out.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:21] When someone’s like, Jason, do you have your EpiPen? I think Gabrus needs it.
John Gabrus [00:32:29] Carpe Diem. Carpe Diem.
Paul Scheer [00:32:31] I do want to say, and I feel badly about this, that that spider did pay for the VIP experience. And now he got a refund. Let’s talk about the diner scene, because I want to. Maybe my head went to a place that you didn’t go to, which is one of the one of the people in the Good People’s crew says, oh, I need some paint and bodywork. Does that mean she needs like, shit and do her makeup? Like when she said, I need to do some paint and body? Is that what bikers say?
John Gabrus [00:33:02] It might be like makeup touch up. It would be my guess.
Paul Scheer [00:33:05] Paint I got was I going to powder my nose and.
John Gabrus [00:33:10] I got to empty the gas tank.
Paul Scheer [00:33:12] Was like bodywork felt like I need some paint and bodywork. I was like, shit and do makeup and. And I kind of want to get that in the lexicon, so I got to give you some paint bodywork now.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:25] Sorry I’m late. I had to do some body work.
John Gabrus [00:33:28] The good guy crew vacillates between being ten years old about girls and sex to 40 years old about girl. They’re like, Oh, you got a girlfriend? Later on, it’s like she’s probably the one who’s responsible for you being on time. And it’s like, Dude, let me get ten more minutes with her, please. How old are you guys?
Paul Scheer [00:33:50] And he’s wearing a motorcycle helmet. So how are they kissing? How are they doing anything? I would imagine.
John Gabrus [00:33:57] Paul, you don’t always have to kiss.
Paul Scheer [00:33:58] That’s true. But then there are. So they were all under the sheets so much that I feel like you may get a concussion. Just like this.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:06] That’s why you wear a helmet.
June Diane Raphael [00:34:07] I thought about it, too. Paul and I what where I went was like she put the helmet on when she thought he was going to leave. Like, Wait, wait, wait.
Paul Scheer [00:34:14] Oh, okay.
John Gabrus [00:34:15] I know what’ll get him back here.
June Diane Raphael [00:34:17] Yes.
John Gabrus [00:34:20] Fast and Furious and this movie do it, too. They, like, presuppose some idea of hetero of the male gaze where it’s like, dude, chicks with fucking wrenches and drive and fast, nothing hotter. And it’s like.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:32] Oh, yeah. Transformers. Transformers too. Michael Bay thinks like the hottest woman is a woman under a hood, you know, in, like, crop tops.
John Gabrus [00:34:42] Yeah. This, this, this movie has like a foreplay on motorcycles where it’s like, Oh, are we going to ride through town together. And it’s like they never sit on the same motorcycle except for a brief moment, which would be a traditionally romantic thing. But instead it’s like race, a billion miles an hour through like Chinatown terrorizing the citizens. And that gets us both juiced up and ready to rock.
Paul Scheer [00:35:05] Well, I wonder if they were going to have a wear orgasm because that was a piece of graffiti I saw in that bathroom where the man is choked out. Multiple times wear orgasm and it was felt like w e a r gasm. So like where what was a weargasm?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:26] Or it’s suggesting that you where the the clothing line orgasm.
Paul Scheer [00:35:31] Or like, oh my God I love your outfit. I just had a weargasm like, or this outfit so hot I just had a weargasm.
John Gabrus [00:35:39] I think it’s every full moon someone come is half orgasm half human.
June Diane Raphael [00:35:55] Well I personally was uncomfortable with how Ford was treating Shane’s business because when they were in that diner, when they were in that diner, he made a comment about how it was wonderful to date a woman who could take care of herself as she got up to pay the check for him and all of his friends. I found it to be very distressing. He just doesn’t see. And that’s why I did ask where he worked.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:20] Oh, no, he’s a loser. But make no mistake, everyone’s a loser in this movie.
June Diane Raphael [00:36:27] I was trying to understand is what is his trade, though.
Paul Scheer [00:36:32] Racing.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:31] Motorcycles.
June Diane Raphael [00:36:32] But.
John Gabrus [00:36:36] He doesn’t explain what he does. You know, I was there for six months. Well, how how’d you pay the bills?
Paul Scheer [00:36:43] Sex worker.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:45] Does he say he competed in a race there or something?
Paul Scheer [00:36:48] Oh, I don’t think no.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:49] Okay. Okay.
John Gabrus [00:36:50] I think he says he competed in a kumite there.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:53] I would love that. Kumite. Kumite Kumite.
Paul Scheer [00:36:58] But I will also say that I like that people are constantly surprised when motorcycles pop into frame, as if motorcycles can sneak up on anyone. Hey, what are you doing here? Didn’t see you roll up on your motorcycle.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:12] Also are able to at one point when Ice Cube and his gang are chasing them in, like, the desert in like, I don’t know where they are, but in the desert, they’re really close. And then somehow our crew, the hero crew, disappears on them.
John Gabrus [00:37:29] Hide in the sewer.
June Diane Raphael [00:37:31] That’s why Jason, when you were like, I understood the geography of every shot. Um, I didn’t know where they were. I had no idea.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:37] Waht made no sense to me, that was like, can they really not see their own dirt? Can they not see the trail of their tires.
John Gabrus [00:37:43] That this whole. Okay, Jason, you touched on something that bothered me about the whole movie. It’s so fun. There’s a lot of exciting set pieces, but so much of the chase makes no sense. Like, it’s like, Yo, Cube, don’t go on top of the train. Ride next to the train and see what he does. Cube, do not go in opposing traffic. Do not jump this ramp. I think you can eyeball him. You don’t have to be right behind him like fucking were going directly into the volcano. Well, you’re not getting away from me. I’m eventually going to physically fight you hand-to-hand.
Paul Scheer [00:38:16] This is what Ice Cube was up to on his bike is the fucking funniest. This is Ice Cube on a normal ride. Now watch what he does. Watch how he has a fall. Everything here. First of all, phone sticks to Magnet. Give me a map. Gets the map. Hands off the bike. Map, fully extended. Folds the map up, gives it back. And then it’s off. He’s also wearing a motorcycle helmet, traveling very fast and having a phone conversation on a map. I guess maybe the magnet phone had.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:07] Mere moments after this. He is riding with his whole gang. I’m saying two dozen guys, right? Mere moments later, they’re all shoulder to shoulder pissing on the side of the road.
June Diane Raphael [00:39:19] So many questions about that.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:20] Going to piss if you’re going to pull over and have a pee break. Got it. I get it. But do you all stand shoulder to shoulder to do it? That seems like a wild choice.
John Gabrus [00:39:30] Well, let’s talk about the logistics of what they do, because when the inciting incident that gets Junior does want to fight Ford, they’re having a barbecue four feet off the side of Death Valley Highway or whatever. They’re literally right. Like, we’re like, oh, yeah, we should just pull over here and grill. It’s 125 degrees. Just post up right here. Later on, they say, Stay out of Compton. And I’m like, You guys are from Compton, and you just hang out in the desert in the sun.
Paul Scheer [00:39:58] There’s caves, there’s downtown L.A., there’s everything, like.
John Gabrus [00:40:02] Fucking cave.
Paul Scheer [00:40:05] They’re hiding in a cave. They spend the night.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:08] They seem to know about. They seem to know where all the weird hidey holes are. Again, between here and Morongo, I’m like, I don’t even think these guys. That’s the thing is, these guys aren’t even going to Sturgis. They’re going to, like, a big rally at Morongo. Like, they’re just in the desert. That’s it.
June Diane Raphael [00:40:28] So just to talk through that, the urination scene there, for another minute. So you think they all did have to go? And I don’t know about this, actually, but I don’t know that if called upon to go right now, you know, I could feel like.
John Gabrus [00:40:46] Let’s get a chance going, folks. Edit this part out, June pisses on the stage. Woah she could do it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:53] Weirder, it’s in this episode.
Paul Scheer [00:40:55] And all spiders come out. Really weird.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:59] I stopped listening to How Did This Get Made when they started doing pissing on the show.
Paul Scheer [00:41:04] But I think of it more like when you’re on a road trip. I think it’s like you’re, you’re on like a road trip. Like when we all go on a road trip with the kids, I’ll be like, Well, we’re stopping. So everyone’s just go to the bathroom. Like, even if you don’t think you have it, you might. And that’s.
John Gabrus [00:41:22] You don’t want to be the new guy in the reaper’s going, I know you just stopped, but I have to go now.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:28] Or the guy that everybody’s like, Hey, how come you’re not pissing? Hey, how come you’re not pissing? Hey, guys, not pissing over there.
Paul Scheer [00:41:37] This guy’s not getting enough fluid. They’re all about hydration. Ice Cube is like, Guys, we’re going to be in this gang. We’re in a lot of hot weather. So you got to hydrate.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:47] I don’t want anybody getting dry cracked lips. I want everybody here fully hydrated.
John Gabrus [00:41:52] Well, the pissing thing, the map thing, the movies threads this weird tonal needle where it’s like it’s a it’s trying to be a comedy at points, but not in a pithy way. It has, like, funny moments. Yeah, but all of the fucking, like, one liners are just clam city. Just like. Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:09] Well, until Dane Cook arrives.
Paul Scheer [00:42:11] And there we go.
Paul Scheer [00:42:13] At which point this movie crushes comedically.
John Gabrus [00:42:17] You know, you’re in a desperate spot if Dane Cook shows up in a movie and you go, Oh, okay, All right, this has some fucking legs.
June Diane Raphael [00:42:24] Now let’s see what at what’s happening here.
Paul Scheer [00:42:27] This feels to me like a moment where they’re like, Okay, it’s not in the script. Dane Cook’s super hot. Let’s give him $5 million. He’ll crush. And this will be that. It’ll make everything great.
John Gabrus [00:42:37] It reeks of like a producers, like, you know, I’m actually kind of friends with Dane Cook’s manager and he was like, this not going to do this is like, let me talk to him.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:46] He wants to do something like this. He said.
Paul Scheer [00:42:48] Write him a scene.
June Diane Raphael [00:42:49] So when I saw Dane cook appear, I was actually like, Oh, I bet they shot way more with him. Which then made me even more confused because I was like, Wow, he’s at. I bet they threaded him through this entire They had a plan for him that was like, You’re going to hear, hear, He’s going to come back here.
John Gabrus [00:43:05] Oh, man. Is even softer than his.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:08] Well, it’s weird because he arrives on a motorcycle and leaves in a car.
John Gabrus [00:43:13] Well, because he gets roasted so hard, he’s like, I’ll take a car instead.
Paul Scheer [00:43:19] He is what us fucking hog heads. That’s what they call us. Motorcycle people. We’re like, we fucking see these Dane cooks out there. This is for like we see these Dane Cooks out there all the time buying nice fucking bikes. They don’t know a goddamn thing.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:32] That what hog heads call them Dane Cooks?
Paul Scheer [00:43:34] Yeah. Oh, I got a Dane Cook coming.
John Gabrus [00:43:37] It’s pointed that they show his like sneakers trying to put the kickstand down. Oh yeah. And it’s like the wackiest thing you could wear is sneakers on a motorcycle.
Paul Scheer [00:43:47] He’s not even wearing a carpe diem jacket.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:48] He can’t find it. What’s really funny about that to me, though, is like, it’s a scene that is comedic forward, so much so that like he comes up to what’s the bad guy’s name? Henry James. Yeah. The author. Henry James.
John Gabrus [00:44:01] Well it’s Henry James Ford.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:02] I was like, Oh my god.
John Gabrus [00:44:06] Famous Nazi.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:07] So. So Henry James, who is truly an unrepentant, evil guy.
John Gabrus [00:44:13] And also a cast member of Fast and Furious.
June Diane Raphael [00:44:16] Oh, I didn’t know that.
Paul Scheer [00:44:17] Yeah.
John Gabrus [00:44:17] Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:18] Who?
John Gabrus [00:44:18] He’s Vince in Fast and the Furious. The guy who turns on them in five. Am I right here? Am I bugging out.
Paul Scheer [00:44:24] He’s right.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:26] I’m mortified. I didn’t know that. And so he’s terrible. He’s. He’s like the mustache twirly bad guy, right? Dane Cook arrives and is like, Hey, can we get a picture with you? He’s on his bike. The bad guys on his bike? Yeah. Can we get a picture of you guys for our internet thing? And then hard cut to they’re taking the picture.
Paul Scheer [00:44:46] They’re willing to do it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:48] They walked to the edge where the water is behind them. For a good picture like they participated in it.
June Diane Raphael [00:44:53] It’s always nice to have your picture taken.
Paul Scheer [00:44:57] By the way, this looks like at a kid’s quinceanera.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:59] This is incredible.
June Diane Raphael [00:45:01] Another children’s park.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:02] Bubbles. There’s a pinata, there’s balloons. This is fucked up.
John Gabrus [00:45:07] Look how close their motorcycle is parked to like where they’re. Well, imagine being at a party, and there’s, like, a guy on the grill, and you have your tire a foot away from revving the fucking engine. There’s a kid playing pinata feet from the motorcycle.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:20] If they were to like the. The exhaust is so close to everybody.
John Gabrus [00:45:30] All those kids are in a class action mesothelioma lawsuit now.
Paul Scheer [00:45:34] I still don’t understand why they even show up here again. The geography of where the the bikes are just ending up everywhere.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:44] It’s like fast and furious with cars. If people if the riders are anywhere, they have to be on their bike.
Paul Scheer [00:45:49] I mean, but this seems like why a children’s party? It’s not crucial.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:53] I was shocked they didn’t commit the murder in the red bathroom on motorcycles.
John Gabrus [00:45:58] It was a motorcycle part.
Paul Scheer [00:46:01] Was used. To which, by the way, the work the the the detective work on that. You know, someone was like and the way that they’ll get out of the crime is that every motorcycle chain is like a fucking fingerprint. High five. Control alt save. No more work today, buddy. Four day weekend for us, motherfucker. Bye bye.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:25] These fucking guys, they’re so dumb. The whole gang is so dumb. And the way they figure out that the chain is like a fingerprint. And then one of them goes like a fingerprint, and the other one goes, Yeah, like a fingerprint.
John Gabrus [00:46:39] Try to try not to move. You try not to move your mouth when you’re thinking. There’s like, there’s like 50’s roasts to each other. It’s like, well, someone’s a kraut friend. You’re like, What?
Paul Scheer [00:46:54] Let’s go to the audience and talk to you about what you might have seen here. Questions, answers. And I want to hear also what you think your motorcycle gang name might be. If you had a role with a crew like the Reapers. Obviously, you know, is there anyone out here that has a good question? Something an observation. All right, sir. Your name, your motorcycle gang name and your question.
Audience Member [00:47:14] Oh, God, that’s a lot. My name’s Ian. I’ll go with Detective John Kimble.
Paul Scheer [00:47:17] Okay. That would be your motorcycle gang name.
John Gabrus [00:47:21] Detective John Kimble ride out.
Paul Scheer [00:47:26] Okay.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:27] Circle up, Detective John Kimble.
Paul Scheer [00:47:30] And not even plural. You know, it’s singular.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:34] Who do you for? Detective John Kimble, and it’s 200 members strong.
Paul Scheer [00:47:40] All right. And your question?
Audience Member [00:47:42] Well, it’s not really a question. It’s an observation.
Paul Scheer [00:47:43] Great.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:44] Is it an explanation?
Audience Member [00:47:45] I hope so. Does it just feel like the Nickelback of Fast and Furious movies?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:50] Nickelback is the closing credit theme.
Paul Scheer [00:47:54] He said that was amazing. Oh, yeah. Over here. Yes. Come over. Can we come closer? Here we go. All right. Your name, your motorcycle gang name. And you can’t take Detective John Kimble. That’s taken. And your question.
Audience Member [00:48:04] My name is Melissa, and I got to come up with a new one I guess. Missy G.
Paul Scheer [00:48:08] Missy G? Again, these are very singular names.
John Gabrus [00:48:11] People are giving themselves nicknames in the motorcycle gangs, rather, naming their gang like what they would be on their cut.
Paul Scheer [00:48:19] All right. Yeah, But by the way, that’s fine.
John Gabrus [00:48:22] But still good.
Paul Scheer [00:48:24] And your observation, or question, whatever.
Audience Member [00:48:25] Yeah, sure. So when they were on top of the train and then came off the train, the train conductor didn’t try and stop until like feet from Ice Cube and then it just kept going?
Paul Scheer [00:48:38] I had a question about this too because the motorcycles are riding on the train track 50 feet in front of the train for a long time, and at no point does that train slow down.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:52] You got to assume the conductor is just like doo doo doo doo doo. Here I am driving my train. Then he sees a motorcycle first come in front, then another drops from above. At that point, you got to hit the brakes.
John Gabrus [00:49:08] He finally puts down snood at that point.
June Diane Raphael [00:49:10] Maybe it’s the same thing. They always say that car drivers like we actually don’t see motorcycles, like we don’t see them on the road. We are trained to look for cars.
John Gabrus [00:49:20] And you’re definitely not trained to look for cars or motorcycles if you’re on a train track in the desert. Where is this train going to and coming from? Because when they go inside it, there are commuters. And it’s in the middle of the fucking desert and there’s no stops. There’s no it’s.
Paul Scheer [00:49:41] It’s going to Westworld. I think.
June Diane Raphael [00:49:44] Is this the Pacific surf liner? Like, what do you know?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:47] No but it looks like it’s going to Massapequa, right? It’s like it’s going to drop everybody off.
John Gabrus [00:49:52] It’s the Babylon line.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:56] But instead, Ford is driving or riding his motorcycle through the train inside and Cube is on top.
June Diane Raphael [00:50:04] Why once they got off, didn’t they just drive into all that open space? Yeah. Why spend so much time on those tracks?
John Gabrus [00:50:12] That’s what I’m saying. The second Ford is on top of the train. If I’m Cube, I’m like, I’ll just buzz near the train and keep an eye on it. As a matter of fact, I think the motorcycles are faster than the train, yet they spend so much time on top of it as if it’s helpful to them in any way.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:28] It’s not. It’s not at all. It’s a hindrance. It’s just spectacle.
Paul Scheer [00:50:32] And and when they are riding on the railroad ties.
John Gabrus [00:50:36] Sir, what is your name? The name of your gang?
Paul Scheer [00:50:40] Name is Dr. John Goodin. No, the the the railroad tire, they they’re bouncing more than.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:54] They should be riding on in between the track.
John Gabrus [00:50:58] Right. That reminds me, this movie has to let us know, you know, there’s negative space underneath the train tracks. Right. This might be the first featured shot of from underneath train tracks up.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:10] They do it really inventive camerawork.
John Gabrus [00:51:13] There’s directors like a legendary music video director.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:19] And if you told me all of his directing credits were for Korn, I would believe you.
June Diane Raphael [00:51:24] Well, so this I had to justify this conductor. I’m like, some level. So in my mind I was like, He must know. Because I think even when you put those emergency brakes on for a train, it still takes what, couple of miles to stop? Yes, at least. So if I’m him, I’m like, if I put the brakes on, I’m going to have to, there’s going to be a whole lot of admin around that. A lot of people.
Paul Scheer [00:51:50] Got a bunch. All these people got to get to work.
June Diane Raphael [00:51:53] They got to get to work.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:54] At the desert factory.
June Diane Raphael [00:51:56] They got to get back.
John Gabrus [00:51:57] They all work at the hills have eyes mine
June Diane Raphael [00:52:01] Yeah. I’m sure these guys will move off the tracks at some point.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:52:05] Gotta. They gotta.
June Diane Raphael [00:52:06] They gotta. And then they don’t.
Paul Scheer [00:52:09] Your name, your gang name and your question.
Audience Member [00:52:15] I’m Nina. My gang name would be Stardust Brothers Fan Club.
Paul Scheer [00:52:18] Okay, I like it. Again, with unwieldy names across the board.
John Gabrus [00:52:23] Looks good. Looks good on a leather vest.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:52:25] You’re telling me a How Did This Get Made crowd at Largo can’t come up with good biker game names. Gang names. Shocking. All right, everybody’s is this nerdy somehow or misunderstands what the assignment is?
John Gabrus [00:52:38] Friends of Grogu.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:52:42] And none of them have any motorcycle knowledge. Whoa. Blown mind.
Paul Scheer [00:52:50] What is your observation question? What do you have?
Audience Member [00:52:52] I just want to go back to the cave scene. I have a question. So the cave had lights in it, like electrical lights. And my question is.
June Diane Raphael [00:53:03] It was someone’s home.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:05] It’s nicer than my house.
John Gabrus [00:53:07] The inside of a truck trailer had lights and it’s like there’s no way that would be lit like the living room.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:14] That seems nuts too.
Audience Member [00:53:16] And did they stumble upon this cave accidentally or did they know about this cave’s existence?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:24] They seem to know every nook and cranny of the Thomas english muffin that is this desert landscape.
John Gabrus [00:53:32] Remind me I’ve been in Pooh Cat. Is the cave still lit?
Paul Scheer [00:53:37] I would love to go in that cave and go down be like a hostess wrapper? Wait a second. Were you really in Thailand? Busted. I’ve been in this cave for 6 months.
Paul Scheer [00:53:47] I love that. I love that He just smoked $1,000,000 worth of meth in a cave over six months.
John Gabrus [00:53:56] That’s my teeth pile. That’s my hair pile.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:58] If that would be. If he was just, like, gaunt and sallow and disgusting.
John Gabrus [00:54:04] Seize the day. Seize the fucking day. Carpe diem.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:07] Shane, shane, shane. I miss you.
Paul Scheer [00:54:12] Your name, your biker gang name and your question.
Audience Member [00:54:15] Oh, Gabriel. Biker name?
Paul Scheer [00:54:18] Yeah. Or biker gang name.
Audience Member [00:54:20] The mountain dews?
Paul Scheer [00:54:21] I like it there we go.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:23] Someone gets it. See? It’s possible.
Audience Member [00:54:28] The fight with the Mountain Dew and the Pepsi. Animatronics? What’s going on?
Paul Scheer [00:54:34] Yeah, well, this is interesting. We talking about this like the bikes are used as an extension of a body. Right? And they are like, bikes are going up against walls. They’re like they are literally.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:44] They’re on top of the bikes, the dancing on the back of the bikes, doing wheelies.
John Gabrus [00:54:49] Real hog heads refer to this as hog fu.
Paul Scheer [00:54:50] Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:52] I did write bike fu.
John Gabrus [00:54:55] I did like 12 different versions.
Paul Scheer [00:54:56] It is just that. It is Crouching Tiger but.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:00] Hidden motorcycle, Kawasaki.
Paul Scheer [00:55:02] And they’re not even like they’re not even like special bikes. They’re just like, Oh yeah, we normally like, we’ll fight on bikes, we’ll fight in real life.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:09] And they seem capable. As if they’ve done this a million times.
John Gabrus [00:55:15] What about the switch out on the highway? When he’s like I’ll drive and he’s like, okay.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:23] What’s so crazy. What’s so crazy about this scene the Gabrus is is depicting for you is they’re carrying on a casual conversation. They’re like, okay, so you take her to the thing and I’ll be over here. Okay, cool. That’s great. There is such a ease.
Paul Scheer [00:55:40] Oh, one thing that my stepfather taught me was that.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:43] Oh ho, Paul be careful. Careful. Finishing that sentence.
John Gabrus [00:55:48] Make sure you eat your limes.
Paul Scheer [00:55:50] Is that you need you need a body to keep the bike upright while in motion. I feel like that is a major part.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:59] You needed to be taught that?
June Diane Raphael [00:56:02] Were you trying to get it to go on its own?
Paul Scheer [00:56:05] These bikes can keep on running without anyone on them and the weight comes on them. They seem to have like it’s like, oh shit. Like there’s no, there’s no like the bikes are.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:17] Go ahead.
June Diane Raphael [00:56:18] I said, they’re unwieldy.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:19] Yeah.
Paul Scheer [00:56:21] Okay. So obviously we have an opinion about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It’s now time for second opinions. Chris, take it away.
Audience Member [00:56:34] Torque is a film about bikes, not cars. Stuff and crystal meth into carborator parts. Ford is coming back from Indo-China with a sprocket fingerprint for the FBI now. It’s Torque is Torque. They fight in bars.
Paul Scheer [00:56:49] Amazing. Thank you, Chris. All right. These Torque reviews are the best. Okay. There are the average rating is four out of five stars. There are 2500 reviews. 75% of them are five star reviews. And it starts out like this from Monica Flynn. “What I like the most about this movie are the motorcycles.”
John Gabrus [00:57:25] Well, Monica, you’re in fucking luck, babe.
Paul Scheer [00:57:29] “What I liked least about this movie. Nothing. It is a great movie from start to finish. Five stars. Title the storyline.”
June Diane Raphael [00:57:40] Can I just say? No, I’m sorry. I wanted to say one thing about the motorcycles. I’m not into motorcycles, but I didn’t feel like they got any, you know, glamor shots in this movie.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:51] Yeah, like, until the fancy one at the end. I totally agree.
June Diane Raphael [00:57:54] One moment. But it’s like in the fast movies, Like, I get to know each car.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:58] And each car represents each person.
June Diane Raphael [00:58:01] Yes.
Paul Scheer [00:58:02] And by the way, I will say, June, that that fancy motorcycle, the jet turbine Y2K bike that Kerry Ford rides actually exists and is owned by Jay Leno. Mr. Jay Leno.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:58:15] It’s made of gasoline. No? Is that is that take to hot? Is Jay here?
Paul Scheer [00:58:27] Now, to your point, Gabrus, it is actually powered by a Rolls-Royce, Alison, 250 turbo shaft engine commonly used in helicopters.
John Gabrus [00:58:37] Jesus, That’s where the torque is coming from.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:58:41] But what I what’s crazy and to June’s point, I agree, the Fast and Furious movies, the vehicles have characteristics that are representative of the characters. And these bikes are just whatever and they’re disposable. People lose bikes, grab another.
Paul Scheer [00:58:58] That cool bike was an ugly looking bike. It didn’t look. It was like, Ooh.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:03] You’re going to get a lot of heat from Jay Leno.
John Gabrus [00:59:06] It looks like a fucking sex doll.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:09] A lot of heat from Jay Leno.
June Diane Raphael [00:59:12] When they pulled that thing off, I was like.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:14] This audience loves Leno.
June Diane Raphael [00:59:17] When they pulled that off. I honestly my first thought when I saw the lines of it, I was like, refrigerator, like.
Paul Scheer [00:59:24] Yeah, it looks like that.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:27] I was like, Should I load my dishes into this?
John Gabrus [00:59:30] You know, Jay Leno doesn’t spend any of his Y2K motorcycle money.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:35] Just his stand up money.
John Gabrus [00:59:36] Yeah, just stand up.
Paul Scheer [00:59:37] This second review is from Christa T She writes.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:41] Chrissy Teigen?
Paul Scheer [00:59:42] Christie T will say maybe, “Husband liked it. I was like, eh. Okay. Movie five stars.”
John Gabrus [00:59:51] That was Chrissy Teigen. Legend is a huge fan of Torque.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:55] Legend is a Torque head. He’s a fan of Peter Tork from the Monkeys.
John Gabrus [01:00:03] Should we just take one second to say.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:00:05] I have officially lost this audience.
June Diane Raphael [01:00:08] You have.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:00:09] Interesting. I’m not worried about it.
John Gabrus [01:00:13] The guy who you think you lost went Yeahhhh. He had pretty much zang. Just to talk about Cube for a second, he’s thrilling in this movie, which is, you know, for what it’s worth. But he the sequence he’s chasing to kill Ford because he believes Ford killed his brother. He’s shooting guns at them. Chasing no matter what, he’s driving directly against a traffic all the way. And when he finally catches up to him on the bridge, he just knocks him off his motorcycle. They’ve been fighting. They’ve been driving for hundreds of miles on train through trains, jump in ravines. When they finally get to the bridge, he’s like, And then they get into hand-to-hand.
Paul Scheer [01:00:52] It’s like, well, slight push.
June Diane Raphael [01:00:53] It’s so crazy too, because the moment at the bridge when Ford let’s go, doesn’t kill ice cube or saves him and pulls him up. I was like, oh, finally there’s a story here. There’s a this is Jean Valjean. This is something.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:01:11] Please, someone make a musical of Torque.
June Diane Raphael [01:01:16] I really was like, Oh, let him go. This is going to be an issue. But he still has to kill him to avenge his brother like it was. The movie started for me.
Paul Scheer [01:01:24] I got you. This one is written by the Man Drew. The ManDrew writes “This movie has it all. Insane, completely over-the-top action scenes which granted occasionally leave you shaking your head. Great bike’s a little TNA. Incredible and well-placed soundtrack, self-deprecating humor and multiple references to old movies and, well, other movies. I loved it.”
John Gabrus [01:01:55] Page two.
Paul Scheer [01:01:56] Yeah. Yeah. “And frankly. As a sport bike rider, it’s so stylized, it’ll give you cavities. It features a healthy dose of all things Hollywood and not in the bad way. I especially love that they poke fun at Fast and Furious and themselves and the stunts. I just jumped my bike onto a moving train and then absolutely rocking strains of Jane’s Addiction in the opening cannon run Slo mo, Perry Farrell screaming. And if you’re looking for some Oscar nominated bike movie, then pull your head out of your butt and go rent a French film with Cantonese subtitles to fulfill your lust for all things sophisticated.”.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:02:40] Can you reread that?
Paul Scheer [01:02:42] “If you’re looking for some Oscar nominated bike movie, then pull your head out of your butt and go rent the French film with Cantonese subtitles to fulfill your lust for all things sophisticated.”
Jason Mantzoukas [01:02:55] So. So, I mean, you can change the subtitles. That person is suggesting change the subtitles from English to Cantonese so that it can be more difficult to understand? From the Oscars to all those Oscar nominated bike movies.
Paul Scheer [01:03:15] I will say this. The budget is movie 40 million opening weekend, 9 million. Domestic gross, 21 million.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:03:28] What year did Fast one come out?
Paul Scheer [01:03:30] 2001.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:03:31] Okay.
Paul Scheer [01:03:32] This came out in 2004. Okay. Okay. It was the top three movies, 2004. Shrek 2, Spiderman 2, Passion of the Christ. That can’t be right. That can’t be right.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:03:44] I would love it if someone got crucified in this movie. And came back three days later.
Paul Scheer [01:03:53] This movie was beaten by Van Helsing, Catwoman, Sky Captain in the World of Tomorrow and Cellular.
John Gabrus [01:03:58] Famously good movies.
Paul Scheer [01:03:59] Yes, that were all here on the show and some of the other titles in different countries. Australia. They called it Hard on the Limit and Estonia.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:04:11] I really want to unpack that. Hard on the limit?
Paul Scheer [01:04:15] Yeah, I guess the.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:04:17] Any Aussies in the House? Can anybody explain what that means? Hard on the limit? I. Aye no sorry. You sound like that.
John Gabrus [01:04:30] We can’t explain Torque. We can’t expect them to explain hard on the limit.
Paul Scheer [01:04:35] Well, to continue that in Spain it was called Rolling to the limit. In Turkey it was called Speed Enthusiasts.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:04:49] Can you imagine it was called that here. And we were right now going to see speed enthusiasts nine.
Paul Scheer [01:04:57] In Hungary it was called Iron. In Finland it was called Tap! exclamation point. And a lot of acceleration. And then this was the one I like from Slovenia. Wild in the Saddle. Now, I told you earlier in the show, I reached out to Adam Scott just a second ago. He texted me. From Adam Scott. He writes in, “I love Torque. I remember when we were making it, Justina machado and I who plays my partner. We were sort of off on our own movie. And we kept on saying to each other, This is fucking ridiculous. Is this supposed to be ridiculous? And we decided it was. And then Joseph Khan, the director, was like, Hey guys, this is fucking ridiculous. And we were like, Oh, okay, great. And then we were just saying, like, all this seems fucking ridiculous. Got it. All right. But then there were some people who seemed super serious about it, which is great. But for that big scene at the end when everyone’s they’re telling each other everything they’ve been doing for the whole movie. I remember some of the actors doing reps with dumbbells before they called action and thinking that was a bit at first and then thinking, Well, if I had arms like that, I’d probably do that too. I don’t know. I loved it. It was so much fun. Ice Cube was fucking cool. Martin Henderson is an awesome guy and by the way, incredible in X. Jay Hernandez and Will John Lee were fucking cool. Monet and Jamie Presley were rad. And that motorcycle battle is Everest. But if only two people ever reach the top, Schultz is so good in this movie it’s insane. And Joseph Kahn took all that money and made something truly bonkers. Viva la Torque.”.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:06:41] Yes.
Paul Scheer [01:06:42] So right from Adam Scott.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:06:43] I agree.
Paul Scheer [01:06:46] Everybody just just say thank you, Adam, and I’ll send it to him. Here we go. All right, There we go. Yeah. So there we go. That’s a firsthand look there. I like that Adam and his partner played it that way because it was a relief when they popped up onscreen. They were fun every single time.
June Diane Raphael [01:07:07] They were great. They were great, you know.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:07:08] And a little bit of a window into what the movie I feel like could have been. Yeah, in a way that was I do believe, because I really had a blast watching this movie in a way that was fun. I genuinely was not prepared for it. I really thought it was going to be much more of a drag and I had a blast watching it, so much so that I was like, Oh, I wish there was more of these in the Fast and Furious style. This this is better than Fast one, four and two.
June Diane Raphael [01:07:37] But we didn’t have Vin Diesel. I really do think that’s true.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:07:41] And nobody approaches it. Like this movie. If you stacked it with a cast as good as the fast movies had, this would be the franchise.
Paul Scheer [01:07:51] Well, I think what this movie is missing is the gravitas of Vin Diesel in the sense of like family. Family. Like there isn’t an emotional grounding.
June Diane Raphael [01:08:02] Similar lines. He has absurd lines that are that fall so flat because he doesn’t have that that Vin touch.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:08:12] In the movie I agree also and I think the Fast and Furious movies have this and I think probably from Vin there is an emotional familial connection between all the cast.
June Diane Raphael [01:08:24] And the cars seems connected to each other emotionally as well.
Paul Scheer [01:08:29] If this movie waited two years, they could have tied it in because they all live in L.A. It could have been an extension of the fast world. I still think we could bring in Ice Cube.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:08:39] What I what I want is I want fast 11 just announced Louis Leterrier back in the saddle. I want fast 11 to bring some of the Torque-verse into the fast-verse.
Paul Scheer [01:08:50] It’s right there for the taking the same producer.
John Gabrus [01:08:54] The one thing Torque does better than fast and furious is and I don’t think they do it well here, but they do it better than Fast and Furious. This movie’s Oh, there’s no sex in Fast and Furious, no sexual energy, period. There’s there’s references.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:09:09] Are you serious? Are you sure? Are you saying Dom and Letty aren’t in love?
John Gabrus [01:09:17] Everyone’s two related in Fast and Furious because everyone that’s actually my cousin’s wife, family.
Paul Scheer [01:09:22] No, you’re right.
June Diane Raphael [01:09:24] Everyone’s sister.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:09:26] It’s much more about your family in that sense. You’re right.
John Gabrus [01:09:29] Here there’s, like, some some steaminess. It’s like, I will say, the the kiss between Ford and Shane when Ford gets out of the car, that is like an awkward level of making out.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:09:40] Or the kiss when they’re driving and he is they are hardcore making out like.
John Gabrus [01:09:45] And he’s in sixth gear. Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:09:48] They’re cutting to his feet. They’re cutting to his hands. They know exactly. They’re weaving in and out of traffic.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:09:54] Could you.
Paul Scheer [01:09:56] Torque: These people finger each other. That’s all you get from this movie.
John Gabrus [01:10:03] That’s why you get Tim Cook in the movie.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:09] The shocker.
Paul Scheer [01:10:10] I think we all agree that we recommend this film on some level. And John, I want to give you a chance to talk about what anything you want to tell everybody to check out.
Paul Scheer [01:10:19] Yeah, I have a movie podcast called Action Boys. Thank you, Jason.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:26] I cannot recommend this podcast. It’s so good. It is fantastic.
John Gabrus [01:10:31] Thank you, guys. That means a lot. I’ve been listening to your movie podcast for decades now. That’s awesome.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:40] How did we get so old?
June Diane Raphael [01:10:41] Okay. I saw someone. I saw someone post on my Twitter the other day, and they tagged me, which was so hurtful. And it said something like I used to listen to How Did This Get Made, that podcast in high school. And it took my breath away. You know, it’s like, remember.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:55] I’m curious, did anybody here start listening in high school? Good.
June Diane Raphael [01:11:02] Yes. Good.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:11:03] Thank God.
John Gabrus [01:11:04] Yeah. Those people did not finish high school and make it to L.A..
Jason Mantzoukas [01:11:07] Only this. Only the old. The old. Only the old heads are here.
John Gabrus [01:11:11] Only the people with the, you know, like financial security to rent Torque.
Paul Scheer [01:11:18] $2.99? No problem.
John Gabrus [01:11:21] I’m a child, this 40 year old. You got it.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:11:24] Of course. Of course. I can go to three shows that Largo in a week.
John Gabrus [01:11:29] I’ll call in sick so I could watch the movies every day to really enjoy it.
Paul Scheer [01:11:35] All right. Thank you, John. Let’s do the podcast. It’s so fun.
Paul Scheer [01:11:41] High and Mighty as well. Gabrus.
John Gabrus [01:11:42] High and Mighty. I also have a chat show podcast that is less about movies, but yeah, that one’s free and easier to get access to. So thank you guys. Check that out.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:11:54] I’ve I’ve shouted this show out a lot on this podcast and I will do it again for you, Gabrus. Gabrus and Pally. The show is 101 Places to Party Before You Die. It’s on truTV, which is now on HBO. Max, also known as Max?
Paul Scheer [01:12:11] Get on your Max.
John Gabrus [01:12:11] I think you could watch it in any hospital waiting room. So do yourself a favor, get a concussion and check it out.
Paul Scheer [01:12:18] Or if you have a peg leg and you’re getting the surgery to cover up the peg leg, it’s a great show. You can binge it out.
John Gabrus [01:12:24] Anyone have a peg leg? We want to trick Paul into touching real quick.
Paul Scheer [01:12:28] I’ll touch anybody’s peg leg to see. I never really believed it. And now you know. Now I think I was pretty smart.
Jason Mantzoukas [01:12:33] I feel like you’re going to get a lot of emails that is like peg leg is not the right term.
Paul Scheer [01:12:40] That was what I was told, that was what I was told. Anyway, thank you all for coming tonight. To How Did This Get Made.
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December 7, 2023
It’s a super-sized Last Looks! Paul and Jason chat about all the TV, movies, comic books, and podcasts that they’re currently loving.