EP. 210 — Sasheer Still Has Her Tap Shoes

[00:00:11] NICOLE: Wow. Good afternoon, Sasheer.

 

[00:00:14] SASHEER: Wow. Look at this. Look at you.

 

[00:00:17] NICOLE: Look at you, my friend.

 

[00:00:20] SASHEER: Look at my friend. Here. On another day.

 

[00:00:25] NICOLE: On another day. Another slay.

 

[00:00:27] SASHEER: Is this a new chair?

 

[00:00:30] NICOLE: Oh, I guess you haven’t seen this. It is a new chair. It is striped.

 

[00:00:36] SASHEER: Ooh, I like. Good height ’cause you can put your elbow on it.

 

[00:00:43] NICOLE: Yeah. And there’s room for me and Clyde.

 

[00:00:48] SASHEER: That’s nice. Yes, please! Move the computer down. Oh.

 

[00:00:54] NICOLE: There he is.

 

[00:00:55] SASHEER: Little pup.

 

[00:00:56] NICOLE: Just snuggled up.

 

[00:00:57] SASHEER: Nice. That’s nice.

 

[00:00:59] NICOLE: Have I talked to you about my trampoline?

 

[00:01:02] SASHEER: No. Are you getting a trampoline? You already have a trampoline.

 

[00:01:07] NICOLE: Yes, it is a small indoor tramp.

 

[00:01:10] SASHEER: Oh, okay. Not, like, a big outdoor one.

 

[00:01:12] NICOLE: No, I don’t have room anywhere for that. But I tried to do a trampoline fitness just for 30 minutes. It is wild on your calves.

 

[00:01:25] SASHEER: Oh, interesting.

 

[00:01:27] NICOLE: My God. That lady–she didn’t warn me. She wasn’t like, “Okay, your calves are going to hurt.” For three minutes I was able to do this. And then I got right off. And then I rolled it away, and I said, “I got to get rid of this trampoline.”

 

[00:01:45] SASHEER: Did you stretch beforehand?

 

[00:01:48] NICOLE: Yes.

 

[00:01:49] SASHEER: And after?

 

[00:01:50] NICOLE: Well, no, I was so upset, I had to sit down.

 

[00:01:56] SASHEER: You just jump up and down, or is there a routine that you’re doing?

 

[00:02:00] NICOLE: So, she’s like, “All right, bend your legs! Now, move on fast feet!” It’s a lady who’s telling me what to do. But I just really didn’t anticipate the strain on your calves.

 

[00:02:12] SASHEER: How long is the workout supposed to be?

 

[00:02:16] NICOLE: A half hour.

 

[00:02:17] SASHEER: Oh. To jump up and down?

 

[00:02:21] NICOLE: Yes.

 

[00:02:23] SASHEER: That seems like it would hurt.

 

[00:02:24] NICOLE: Yes. Jumping up and down and then, like, you know those squats where you get low and then you, like, jump? You’re supposed to do that on the trampoline, and I launched too high and got scared.

 

[00:02:35] SASHEER: That is scary. What if you land in a way that, like, flips you off the trampoline?

 

[00:02:40] NICOLE: Oh my God. I got to get rid of this thing.

 

[00:02:45] SASHEER: It’s a hazard!

 

[00:02:46] NICOLE: It’s going to kill me.

 

[00:02:48] SASHEER: You know, I did a dance workout at home thing with some online video subscription. And it was fun, but it reminded me of that lady… Her TikToks were all over the place for a minute because she was, like, doing hip-hop dancing, but she would have funny words. “And move that chicken wing.” Or something like that. I don’t know. I don’t know why people were laughing at it; I thought it was awesome. I was like, “She looks fun.” I think it was because she was a white lady and she was doing hip-hop dancing.

 

[00:03:26] NICOLE: Oh, yes, yes, yes.

 

[00:03:28] SASHEER: And people were like, “This is crazy.” But also, I was like, “I would do this. This looks super fun.” But I don’t know what to look for.

 

[00:03:37] NICOLE: What’s her name?

 

[00:03:37] SASHEER: I don’t know. I don’t know how to find her.

 

[00:03:39] NICOLE: White Lady HipHop?

 

[00:03:43] SASHEER: White Lady HipHop TikTok Lady Workout HipHop?

 

[00:03:48] NICOLE: Yeah, I think that might work.

 

[00:03:50] SASHEER: Who was the white lady?

 

[00:03:53] NICOLE: Yeah, Google that. “Who was the white lady who danced hip-hop on TikTok and people were talking about.” Google’s going to be like, “Ma’am?”

 

[00:04:10] SASHEER: Too many words.

 

[00:04:14] NICOLE: It’s not that lady. She’s funny, though.

 

[00:04:17] SASHEER: Yeah, from the video from the ’80s.

 

[00:04:20] NICOLE: She’s a choreographer. So maybe “white lady choreographer hip-hop TikTok.

 

[00:04:26] JORDAN: It’s not the ones where it’s them on the stepper, right?

 

[00:04:29] SASHEER: No, I don’t think so.

 

[00:04:32] NICOLE: No, she’ll, like, be swinging her hips. And she’s like, “All right! Get your booty low and move your chicken wings!”

 

[00:04:40] SASHEER: Yeah, I really feel like chicken wings was in one of them.

 

[00:04:43] NICOLE: In the zeitgeist of her dance.

 

[00:04:45] JORDAN: There are a lot of videos on white lady hip-hop TikTok.

 

[00:04:49] NICOLE: Maybe “white lady choreographer hip-hop workout.” I can’t really do dance workouts because I don’t have any rhythm, and then I’ll get frustrated.

 

[00:05:04] SASHEER: No, we don’t want that.

 

[00:05:07] NICOLE: Are you looking it up, too, Sasheer?

 

[00:05:09] SASHEER: I am.

 

[00:05:10] NICOLE: We’re all looking it up!

 

[00:05:11] SASHEER: We’re all on the case!

 

[00:05:12] NICOLE: And this is what people come here for. Dead silence as we Google. Let’s see. I’ll Google, too. “Hip-hop.” “Group workout” is what I’m going to look up because she’s got two people behind her.

 

[00:05:35] SASHEER: And so that’s a group.

 

[00:05:36] NICOLE: That is a group! Or is it a few?

 

[00:05:39] SASHEER: No, no. “Group” is good.

 

[00:05:41] NICOLE: Yeah, this is tough.

 

[00:05:43] SASHEER: I really thought this would be easier to find.

 

[00:05:45] NICOLE: Yeah. I don’t know. This is…

 

[00:05:47] JORDAN: What does she say specifically in the video?

 

[00:05:50] SASHEER: I thought she said something about a chicken wing, and I don’t know if that’s right.

 

[00:05:54] JORDAN: Okay, I’m going to search “chicken wing” with that.

 

[00:06:00] NICOLE: That’s very funny. I hope you find it by “chicken wing.” This is tough. Janelle Ginestra.

 

[00:06:13] SASHEER: How do you spell Ginestra?

 

[00:06:13] NICOLE:  Oh, you know I closed the phone right up after I saw.

 

[00:06:22] SASHEER: Help!

 

[00:06:22] NICOLE: So, Janelle. J.A.N.E.L.L.E. And then her last name–G.I.N.E.S.T.R.A. This is her, right?

 

[00:06:32] SASHEER: I think so.

 

[00:06:33] NICOLE: And her spouse is Wildabeast Adams? Like I know who that is.

 

[00:06:38] SASHEER: I actually think I know Wildabeast. I don’t know him personally, but I think I’ve seen his videos. Sometimes I go through phases where I just watch a lot of dance videos. You know, there’s a whole community of them.

 

[00:07:02] NICOLE: Very funny. Is this her? Did I get it right?

 

[00:07:08] SASHEER: I think so.

 

[00:07:10] NICOLE: I think if you put “Janelle Ginestra workout,” you might get her TikTok workout.

 

[00:07:20] SASHEER: Yes. This is her.

 

[00:07:23] NICOLE: Hell, yeah.

 

[00:07:23] SASHEER: Oh my God. There’s a video of her… I guess she did say something about chickens. No, no, wait. There’s a video of her dancing. And then there’s a turkey, like, twerking in the video. I guess it was a Thanksgiving sale.

 

[00:07:38] NICOLE: That’s pretty funny.

 

[00:07:41] SASHEER: She’s funny. Yay. Okay, great. I’ll do her videos.

 

[00:07:43] NICOLE: Yay! I’m glad we got to the bottom of that.

 

[00:07:46] SASHEER: Thank God. Thank you so much for your help. Thank you, everybody.

 

[00:07:50] NICOLE: You’re welcome. We all got on the case. Wait, I have got to see who Wildabeast is. And Wildebeest is also a choreographer?

 

[00:07:59] SASHEER: I think so, yeah.

 

[00:08:00] NICOLE: What a funny name to choose for yourself. You know, I thought Wildabeast would be bigger. Your name is Wildabeast? Wow. They’re a fun looking couple. I love how dancers really look like dancers.

 

[00:08:16] SASHEER: They do have fun.

 

[00:08:17] NICOLE: Oh, yeah. Like, these are the most dancerific pictures I’ve ever seen of people.

 

[00:08:24] SASHEER: Yeah. She’s, like, straddling his waist and, like, they’re using gravity to balance on each other.

 

[00:08:33] NICOLE: God, how fun.

 

[00:08:34] SASHEER: That’s fun.

 

[00:08:36] NICOLE: Oh, they look like they really love each other.

 

[00:08:38] SASHEER: Just in love, dancing. That’s nice.

 

[00:08:41] NICOLE: Oh, that’s what I want. I want to fall in love with a dancer and then become a dancer.

 

[00:08:46] SASHEER: A dancer!

 

[00:08:47] NICOLE: Sounds exhausting.

 

[00:08:47] SASHEER: It does.

 

[00:09:04] NICOLE: Sasheer, did you dance as a child?

 

[00:09:08] SASHEER: Not like… No. I think I liked taking some dance classes, but I wasn’t really in, like, a… I didn’t do anything where I danced. It’s not like I took multiple, like, ballet classes or jazz classes. Maybe I took, like, one class, and then moved on.

 

[00:09:23] NICOLE: Oh, I took several ballet classes. I wish I could remember the name. I think it was, like, the Kathie Lee– No, that’s a…

 

[00:09:31] SASHEER: Gifford?

 

[00:09:31] NICOLE: That’s a lady. Kathy something Ballet Academy. And they used to, like, push you down into the splits, which was bad for some girls–fine for me because I was pretty flexible. And then I took a jazz class. And then I took tap, and I really tried to keep up with tap because I loved how much noise it made. But, like, that wasn’t for me. So, then I got into gymnastics.

 

[00:10:02] SASHEER: I did gymnastics too. And I actually did tap when I was older. I guess I was in college. And I liked it a lot. And I still have tap shoes.

 

[00:10:15] NICOLE: That’s fun. Maybe I’ll get some tap shoes.

 

[00:10:18] SASHEER: Let’s tap dance.

 

[00:10:19] NICOLE: Let’s tap dance! We have a mutual friend who had a tap recital that I went to, and it was maybe the best thing I’ve ever seen in my whole life.

 

[00:10:29] SASHEER: Why?

 

[00:10:30] NICOLE: Because it was people of all levels. And the teacher was in every number. And it was truly just magical and perfect. I cannot really explain more than that. It was just delightful. And the crowd was so hyped to see their friends tap dance. It was just so supportive and wonderful.

 

[00:10:53] SASHEER: That’s really cute.

 

[00:10:55] NICOLE: I love when people are supportive.

 

[00:10:58] SASHEER: It is nice.

 

[00:10:59] NICOLE: It’s very nice. Oh my God. I’m going to get tap shoes. I haven’t tapped in forever.

 

[00:11:05] SASHEER: I haven’t either. I think I still remember how to do a time step.

 

[00:11:09] NICOLE: Ooh, time steps were tough for me.

 

[00:11:11] SASHEER: Yeah.

 

[00:11:13] NICOLE: But I can shuffle off a buffalo.

 

[00:11:15] SASHEER: Oh! Shuffle off a buffalo.

 

[00:11:22] NICOLE: After dance class, we would go to this place called My Favorite Muffin. And they have this chocolate cheesecake muffin, which was so good.

 

[00:11:37] SASHEER: It sounds very good and also sounds like a cupcake.

 

[00:11:41] NICOLE: Um, it was a muffin.

 

[00:11:44] SASHEER: Okay.

 

[00:11:45] NICOLE: It was from a place called My Favorite Muffin.

 

[00:11:48] SASHEER: Okay. But, you know, those are cake flavors that you listed, so…

 

[00:11:54] NICOLE: I see. I see where you’re coming from. And, yeah, I guess cupcakes do even come in– I was about to be like, “It was a muffin. It was in one of those muffin wrappers.” But cupcakes come in those wrappers.

 

[00:12:05] SASHEER: Yeah. What is a muffin, if not an icingless cupcake?

 

[00:12:09] NICOLE: Oh my God. A muffin is a naked cupcake. How embarrassing.

 

[00:12:14] SASHEER: I’m sure there’s a difference. I have no idea what it is. Ooh, My Favorite Muffin.

 

[00:12:23] NICOLE: Ooh, Cinnamon Crumb Cake is the Muffin of the Month.

 

[00:12:28] SASHEER: Their Crumb Cake is the Muffin of the Month? This is a bakery that makes cakes, and they call them “muffins.”

 

[00:12:36] NICOLE: Okay, they have Banana Nut, Blueberry, Blueberry Cheesecake, Boston Cream Pie, Cherry Cheesecake, Chocolate Cheesecake! They still got it. Woo! Oh my God, they’re so good. I wonder if My Favorite Muffin will send me muffins.

 

[00:12:53] SASHEER: Probably. Where are they located? Jersey?

 

[00:12:56] NICOLE: I think Shrewsbury, New Jersey. Let’s see those locations. I don’t think there’s one here.

 

[00:13:02] SASHEER: In California?

 

[00:13:03] NICOLE: I think you got to put in “New Jersey.”

 

[00:13:06] SASHEER: Well, there’s a whole thing. They probably have more than just Jersey. They have a whole map situation. It’s worth a try.

 

[00:13:15] NICOLE: All right, let’s see. Is there a My Favorite Muffin near here? “There are zero locations near Los Angeles, California.”

 

[00:13:26] SASHEER: That was deceiving. “Someone lives here, and we don’t have a location there.”

 

[00:13:38] NICOLE: Okay. Let’s see their Jersey locations. Do they not have any in Jersey either? What the heck?

 

[00:13:45] SASHEER: Wait. Why don’t they just tell us where they’re located? I hope they just have a list of where they are located. Seems much easier.

 

[00:13:52] NICOLE: It does seem easier than, like, trying to figure this out. My Favorite muffin. Oh, there you go. Locations. “Locations nearest to you.” Why don’t they have a list? How upsetting.

 

[00:14:05] SASHEER: Can we, like, zoom out and just see all of America? Will it show us?

 

[00:14:08] NICOLE: Oh, no, no, no. They said, “Absolutely not. We will not show you anything.” My Favorite Muffin, what’s going on?

 

[00:14:16] SASHEER: Where are you?

 

[00:14:20] NICOLE: Where’s My Favorite Muffin?

 

[00:14:21] SASHEER: Where is it?

 

[00:14:24] NICOLE: We are zooming out, and there is no My Favorite–

 

[00:14:30] SASHEER: Also, why does it start in the United Kingdom?

 

[00:14:36] NICOLE: That was really funny.

 

[00:14:40] SASHEER: What a twist.

 

[00:14:42] NICOLE: What a huge twist.

 

[00:14:45] SASHEER: What a plot twist.

 

[00:14:46] NICOLE: Oh my God. Just zooming out, being like, “Oh, that’s why I don’t recognize anything. We’re not in America.” Wow. Okay, put in this zip code: 07739. Oh, okay. So, it’s not there either. Maybe this is broken.

 

[00:15:02] SASHEER: Maybe. My Favorite Muffin, we need you to figure out your website.

 

[00:15:06] NICOLE: Yeah. Can you figure it out? Maybe they’re not in business anymore.

 

[00:15:10] SASHEER: Maybe they’re just an online thing.

 

[00:15:12] NICOLE: Maybe. Is there buying purchase power?

 

[00:15:17] SASHEER: Is there purchase power? You can order online.

 

[00:15:21] NICOLE: Okay. At participating locations, but they won’t tell us what the location is.

 

[00:15:25] SASHEER: Where are the locations?

 

[00:15:28] NICOLE: They’re really pushing cinnamon.

 

[00:15:29] SASHEER: In the summer.

 

[00:15:33] NICOLE: That’s what’s leading me to believe that maybe this is a defunct company. Cinnamon is not a summer treat.

 

[00:15:38] SASHEER: It’s not. But it’s looking for a website.

 

[00:15:41] NICOLE: Interesting. We figured it out. They got it in Colorado.

 

[00:15:50] SASHEER: A lot in Colorado. Oregon. Texas.

 

[00:15:54] NICOLE: Wow. Three in Corpus Christi. That’s where Selena is from.

 

[00:15:58] SASHEER: Nevada. Ohio. Virginia. And that is it.

 

[00:16:05] NICOLE: That’s it. Wow. I guess the one I went to as a child is gone.

 

[00:16:11] SASHEER: I’m so sorry.

 

[00:16:13] NICOLE: It’s okay. We all have to mourn some things.

 

[00:16:17] SASHEER: Yeah.

 

[00:16:17] NICOLE: Oh well. Have you been to Levain bakery?

 

[00:16:20] SASHEER: No.

 

[00:16:22] NICOLE: They have really good cookies.

 

[00:16:24] SASHEER: What kind of cookies?

 

[00:16:25] NICOLE: They have chocolate chip cookies. They have… I almost said, “black cookies.” But I just mean, like, a chocolate chocolate chip.

 

[00:16:33] SASHEER: Double chocolate chip.

 

[00:16:34] NICOLE: Yes. And they have chocolate chip walnut, chocolate peanut butter. And they also sell them in the grocery store in the frozen section. And they say, “Do not microwave these.” And I bought them. And guess what? I microwaved them. And they were not good.

 

[00:16:51] SASHEER: Wait, you’re supposed to put them in the oven?

 

[00:16:52] NICOLE: Yes, you are. It’s specific. They’re like, “Please do not microwave these.” And I said, “You don’t know what you’re talking about.” It turns out, they do.

 

[00:17:01] SASHEER: It’s funny that they have to be so, like, “Please don’t microwave them. Microwave them at your own risk, but they won’t be good.” But it sounds like something awful is going to happen if you microwave them. “Please, for everyone’s safety.” They weren’t good.

 

[00:17:19] NICOLE: They were really bad. Like, I was like, “Uch, yuck.” And I told a friend that I microwaved them, and they’re like, “Did you read the directions?” I was like, “No. I chose my own time that I microwaved them for, and they were very bad.”

 

[00:17:32] SASHEER: I also have never seen microwavable cookies. Have you? Like, the fact that you thought that was an option. I have never ever seen anyone try or succeed in microwaving cookies. I’ve only seen them in the oven.

 

[00:17:57] NICOLE: Touché, friend. I think you’re right. I have also never seen a single human being microwave a cookie. Well, it came in the frozen section so I was like, “Clearly this can be microwaved.”

 

[00:18:12] SASHEER: What?

 

[00:18:15] NICOLE: Can’t you microwave everything in the fridge? Oh, I guess I wouldn’t put a pizza in the microwave.

 

[00:18:21] SASHEER: No. I think most things I wouldn’t put in the microwave.

 

[00:18:29] NICOLE: Interesting. Listen, life is a learning curve, and we’re all here to learn.

 

[00:18:30] SASHEER: Yeah. Well, I’m glad you learned that lesson.

 

[00:18:32] NICOLE: Thank you. Me too. It was wild. I burnt a pizza the other day.

 

[00:18:38] SASHEER: I’m sorry.

 

[00:18:39] NICOLE: Because I, again, didn’t follow the directions. It said to cook it. They were like, “Either put it on the grill,” and I was like, “A grill? Okay.” Or put it in the oven for, I think, like, 5 to 10 minutes, so I put it in for 20.

 

[00:18:54] SASHEER: “It said, ‘5 to 10,’ so I said, ’20.’”

 

[00:18:59] NICOLE: “I want it a little crispy.” And then my smoke alarm went off, and I opened the oven. It was fully on fire. I’m having a great time. I’m live, laugh, loving.

 

[00:19:12] SASHEER: One time I was making ramen in my apartment in New York. And I came home drunk, put the noodles in the water, and fell asleep. And then my roommate walked in and was like, “What did you do tonight?” And I was like, “Oh, you know, I went out, came home, made some… Oh!” And I ran to the kitchen. Smoke was everywhere. I also don’t know how my roommate didn’t notice the smoke when she walked in. She just, like, knocked on my door and was like, “Hey, girl! What did you get into tonight?” I’m like, “Oh, hey.” And then the pot was, like, black on the bottom. The noodles were, like, burnt to a crisp.

 

[00:19:58] NICOLE: Oh no.

 

[00:19:58] SASHEER: Yeah. Thank God she came home. I guess I don’t know what the worst-case scenario would have been. I think the pot just would have been destroyed. But also, maybe something else could’ve happened.

 

[00:20:09] NICOLE: I think maybe that’s the worst case. But also, maybe your apartment might have burned down.

 

[00:20:15] SASHEER: It was a really rickety building, so probably.

 

[00:20:19] NICOLE: Boy, oh, boy. I would be highly embarrassed if we were all outside and they were like, “Because you needed noodles?”

 

[00:20:25] SASHEER: “I was hungry.”

 

[00:20:26] NICOLE: “We’re all out here because you needed noodles.”

 

[00:20:30] SASHEER: “Yeah…”

 

[00:20:32] NICOLE: “I’m so sorry!” Oh. My old roommate used to leave the oven on all the time. We would come home it was like–I don’t know–four or five of us that lived in this, like, three or four bedroom. And we would go to dinner and come home and be like, “God, it’s hot in here.” And then we’d be like, “The oven is fucking on.” And then she’d be like, “Sorry.” Or she wouldn’t be there.

 

[00:20:55] SASHEER: Scary.

 

[00:21:00] NICOLE:  It is scary. And now I’m, like, overly… What’s it called?

 

[00:21:07] SASHEER: “Cautious?”

 

[00:21:08] NICOLE: I guess. Before bed, I kind of have to touch the knobs to make sure everything is off because I’m scared. I’m scared. What if I leave it on all night? What if I’m cooking the air?

 

[00:21:20] SASHEER: You don’t want to cook air.

 

[00:21:23] NICOLE: No! I just want to cook things!

 

[00:21:25] SASHEER: Yeah. I guess I’ve had experiences where I’ve locked myself out of my house. Maybe this is why I do it, but I, like, consistently check doorknobs and check if it’s locked. Check my keys. Like, I check more than usual. But I think also because I’ve locked myself in my house and I didn’t like it.

 

[00:21:43] NICOLE: I got to say, locking yourself out of your own home is so, like… Not embarrassing, but it’s just like, “Well, fuck, how do I get in here?” It makes me angry.

 

[00:21:57] SASHEER: And it’s like, “I own this thing! I should be able to get in. I lost a piece of metal, and I can’t get back in? That sucks!”

 

[00:22:06] NICOLE: That is funny.

 

[00:22:07] SASHEER: “I lost this little thing that’s almost the size of a coin, and I can’t get in? That’s it?”

 

[00:22:14] NICOLE: Keys should be bigger.

 

[00:22:16] SASHEER: Yes. Or–I don’t know–use my thumbprint. Why do I have to carry anything?

 

[00:22:22] NICOLE: I’m sure you could do that now.

 

[00:22:25] SASHEER: Yeah, probably.

 

[00:22:26] NICOLE: In 2023–in the year of our Lord–just thumbprint yourself inside. Or, like, scan your face.

 

[00:22:35] SASHEER: That seems expensive. But I’m sure it is possible.

 

[00:22:40] NICOLE: You got to pay for convenience. I once went home with a friend. We were very, very drunk. Her roommate was sleeping on the couch, and we could see her. And my friend didn’t have her keys, we were banging on the window, and her roommate just wouldn’t wake up. So, she or I climbed through the window and scared her awake. Oh, we laughed and laughed. Youth.

 

[00:23:10] SASHEER: But also, like, scary that it’s that easy to get into that apartment.

 

[00:23:15] NICOLE: I mean, it took us a while, but we figured out how to open the window from the outside.

 

[00:23:20] SASHEER: Damn.

 

[00:23:21] NICOLE: It’s funny the things you’ll do in your, like, early to mid to late 20s that you wouldn’t do now. If I was locked out of a house now, I’m not climbing through a window. I’m going to phone a friend and say, “Can I come over?”

 

[00:23:33] SASHEER: Yeah, I’m gonna call a locksmith.

 

[00:23:36] NICOLE: Oh, yeah. That, too. A 24-hour locksmith. That never occurred to me. I was just going to go to a friend’s.

 

[00:23:42] SASHEER: I got my locks changed because your key and my keys don’t work for my house anymore. And he replaced the deadbolt. And he was like, “Oh, also, I’m going to, like, do an upgrade on this.” I guess the lock just, like, needed oil. And you’re supposed to oil your locks, like, every six months or something. And I was like, “How would I have known this?” He said it as, like, a known… “You know, when you get your oil changed for your car, you got to, like, oil up your lock.” And I was like, “I’ve literally never heard of that–never seen anyone do that. And the person who installed the first lock didn’t tell me that.” And I guess the rain, or I don’t know what, like, made it funky inside of the lock. So, he replaced it and then there was no plate on the side where the lock goes into on the doorframe. And he was, like, kind of shitting on the person who installed it. And I was like, “I called the same company! Like, the person who installs this lock is from your company.”

 

[00:24:58] NICOLE: God, that’s really funny.

 

[00:25:00] SASHEER: I was like, “I don’t know. Talk to each other. You’re trained people.”

 

[00:25:06] NICOLE: Also, how are you oiling a lock? A lock is so small. With, like, a syringe of oil?

 

[00:25:14] SASHEER: He told me what it was. I don’t know what it is, but I think there’s a thing that you can spray in there. Like a long hose.

 

[00:25:22] NICOLE: Wild. Wild. Doors are crazy.

 

[00:25:25] SASHEER: Doors are crazy.

 

[00:25:39] NICOLE: Sasheer, I went to the Pasadena Architectural Salvage Store. And it’s people who are, like, redoing their homes and, like, don’t like old shit. So, they, I guess, sell it to them or donate. I don’t really know. But they had rows and rows of doors.

 

[00:26:01] SASHEER: Whoa. That’s pretty cool.

 

[00:26:02] NICOLE: Big ones. Small ones. Stained glass ones. French ones. Ornate ones. Ones that needed to be refinished.

 

[00:26:12] SASHEER: Wow.

 

[00:26:13] NICOLE: I touched almost all of the doors. I had a fabulous time.

 

[00:26:21] SASHEER: Did you get a door?

 

[00:26:24] NICOLE: I took measurements to maybe get a door.

 

[00:26:28] SASHEER: That’s fun.

 

[00:26:28] NICOLE: Stained glass door.

 

[00:26:30] SASHEER: Oh, that’d be so nice.

 

[00:26:31] NICOLE: Right? I love a door.

 

[00:26:36] SASHEER: We love a door.

 

[00:26:37] NICOLE: I really do. Doors are fun. You never know what’s on the other side.

 

[00:26:43] SASHEER: Anything else other than doors?

 

[00:26:45] NICOLE: Everything you want. Knobs for the doors.

 

[00:26:48] SASHEER: Oh. Knobs.

 

[00:26:49] NICOLE: Like, stained glass windows, medicine cabinets, toilets, sinks…

 

[00:27:01] SASHEER: Oh, wow. I’m going to go there.

 

[00:27:04] NICOLE: It was really fun. And you better believe I bought myself a toilet.

 

[00:27:08] SASHEER: You bought a toilet?

 

[00:27:09] NICOLE: In Ming Green.

 

[00:27:11] SASHEER: That sounds cute.

 

[00:27:14] NICOLE: It’s fabulous.

 

[00:27:16] SASHEER: And this is a toilet that someone else has had in their home? Or someone bought it and didn’t use it?

 

[00:27:23] NICOLE: No. People have shitted on it–or in it–through the years.

 

[00:27:28] SASHEER: Probably on it. Lot of things happen to toilets.

 

[00:27:30] NICOLE: I hope not. But yeah, it’s a used toilet. Do you not like that? Do you have a problem with used toilets?

 

[00:27:41] SASHEER: I do not have a problem with used toilets. I do have a friend who really has a problem with used toilets, and he’s like, “Every home I’ve moved into, I replace the toilet. And I was like, “That seems excessive.”

 

[00:27:54] NICOLE: Yeah, wait, is this friend bringing their own toilet or just purchasing a new toilet each time?

 

[00:28:00] SASHEER: Oh, that’s a really good question. I don’t know if they’re bringing their toilet from home to home. I’m guessing they get a new toilet each time, but I also don’t know. I’ll ask.

 

[00:28:12] NICOLE: Wild. How much is a new toilet?

 

[00:28:14] SASHEER: I–in my mind–don’t think it’s that expensive, but I probably would be surprised at how much they cost. A couple of hundred? I have no idea.

 

[00:28:26] NICOLE: Yeah, I guess it’s not that much.

 

[00:28:28] SASHEER: 500 max? I don’t know. Yeah. I guess a super fancy toilet would be really expensive.

 

[00:28:33] NICOLE: $1,000?

 

[00:28:37] SASHEER: This gold one is $700.

 

[00:28:40] NICOLE: A gold toilet. Yikes. Oh my God. A “wooden throne toilet?”

 

[00:28:45] SASHEER: For $4,000. From beautifultoilets.com.

 

[00:28:50] NICOLE: We got to hit up beautifultoilets.com.

 

[00:28:53] SASHEER: Some of these are shaped like eggs.

 

[00:28:55] NICOLE: Yeah. Oh, you can get one for, like, 100 bucks. Toilets are not that expensive. A “royal gold toilet” for $2,000?

 

[00:29:04] SASHEER: Yeah, I think a normal toilet is, like, a couple hundred bucks.

 

[00:29:09] NICOLE: Did I tell you about a restaurant that I went to that had big bones and meat?

 

[00:29:14] SASHEER: Yes.

 

[00:29:16] NICOLE: Did I tell you about the toilet situation there?

 

[00:29:19] SASHEER: No.

 

[00:29:21] NICOLE: They had a toilet where you walk in, and it greets you. The lid is like, “Hello,” and then the seat was heated. And then there were all sorts of accouterments. I think it said, “Fragrance.” So, I think if you are shitting, you can hit “Fragrance” and a fragrance would appear. And then there was a bidet, and you could choose the temperature. And it was wall-mounted. And I spent a lot of time in there. I had a great time.

 

[00:29:51] SASHEER: That’s at a restaurant?

 

[00:29:52] NICOLE: This is at a restaurant. I believe it was David Chang’s restaurant.

 

[00:29:58] SASHEER: Ooh, nice.

 

[00:30:00] NICOLE: He’s Momofuku, I think?

 

[00:30:03] SASHEER: Yes. Is it, like, a one-person room or, like, stalls?

 

[00:30:09] NICOLE: Three toilet rooms. I guess you call them “stalls,” but they weren’t stalls. I couldn’t see anything from underneath nor above. There was a wall.

 

[00:30:21] SASHEER: Oh, okay.

 

[00:30:21] NICOLE: And a door that went from floor to ceiling.

 

[00:30:25] SASHEER: I just feel like that would make people stay in there longer because they’re just enjoying themselves.

 

[00:30:29] NICOLE: I did. I had a great time.

 

[00:30:33] SASHEER: Don’t you want people to get in and out of the bathroom?

 

[00:30:36] NICOLE: I guess.

 

[00:30:38] SASHEER: But then, I guess, you’re paying that much money. You want a full experience–in and out.

 

[00:30:43] NICOLE: Yeah. Oh, God. It was nice. We have to go. And maybe they’ll have the bones of meat. And you can get on the toilet.

 

[00:30:51] SASHEER: I can’t wait. I can’t wait to get on this toilet.

 

[00:30:57] NICOLE: That’s a date. Should we do a quiz or something?

 

[00:31:03] SASHEER: I wanna answer questions.

 

[00:31:05] NICOLE: Okay, let’s answer questions.

 

[00:31:11] CALLER: Hi, Nicole, Sasheer, Kimmie, and Jordan. I hope you guys are having a good day. So, I’m trying to make this as quick as possible. But my best friend–we’ve been friends for, like, five or six years now. Love her to death. She’s been pretty solid in my life for that amount of time. Her brother… I don’t want to sound conceited, but her brother has been in love with me since, like, middle school. I didn’t find him attractive or interesting, really, until, like, the end of high school. And then a couple of years after that, we started dating–about three years ago. I asked for her permission. I mean, that’s my best friend, so I wanted to make sure it was cool her. She said it was cool. Unfortunately, we are that couple that have broken up, got back together, broken up, got back together. And this is, like, our second time doing this again. Not my doing though. All his doing. But this time around it’s a little bit different. Our very last breakup was pretty messy. My best friend did have to get in the middle of it. Not what I prefer, of course, but it did happen. My issue is that… The first time we broke up, my best friend had set the boundary. “I don’t want to be in the middle. Please don’t talk to me about him.” And I understood that. I get it. It’s difficult because it is my best friend. I’m sure Nicole– And I’m sure you too, Sasheer… Kimmie and Jordan. You go to your best friend to talk about, like, relationships? So, I kind of had to, like, refrain from that because I’m trying to respect her boundaries. But at some points, that boundary kind of faded, she would actually talk to me about her brother, and she would join in on… I don’t want to say me talking shit, but when we would break up, like, yeah, I was talking shit. And she would join in on that. And it just really seemed like that boundary was not there anymore. So, I was like, “Okay, is she fine with this now?” She never reinforced it. So, this last break up was pretty bad, and I think we were getting better together. But I just love this man, and I can’t give him up very easily, even though I really should after all the shit he’s done. That that’s a whole bucket of worms I’m trying to work out in therapy. But here we are. Okay. The past few times I went over to her house, I just felt very unwanted. I can tell she’s annoyed, but I just don’t know why. So after yesterday, I had to ask her, “Are we good? Like, it feels like you’re just annoyed every time I come over.” And she’s like, “No. I just don’t know how I feel about you getting back with my brother. I really don’t want to be put in the middle of this anymore. And I would rather hang out with you guys separately. I don’t want to hang out with you guys together.” This family is very, very tight knit. And me, my boyfriend… Mind you, they’re twins, okay? I don’t know if that matters… But context. So, we would all just go over to my best friend’s house because she lives with her sister. And that’s, like, the hangout spot. And now she’s telling me that I can’t do that anymore because she doesn’t want to hang out with us together. And that’s just very sad. It’s just very upsetting. And now coming over for, like, family events and things like that, I just don’t feel comfortable anymore because I don’t feel wanted. And I also know now she really doesn’t want us to be together. And also, my family doesn’t enjoy him particularly. But again, that’s a whole other can of worms. It just feels like everyone is against us being together, and it’s very sad. But also, I’ve kind of put myself in this position because I’m very much an oversharer. I get a lot of support from my family–from my mom and my sister. But of course, they hear someone who messes with their sister, and now it’s like, “Fuck him.” But totally understandable. I don’t fault anybody for feeling that way. But it’s just really hard. I’m not upset at my best friend for setting those boundaries. But now it’s just made me very uncomfortable because I feel like I’m not wanted at family events. And she said, “I’m not saying I don’t want to hang out with you. Of course, I want you to come to family events. It’s going to be hard for me to see you there and be around you guys together.” And just her saying that–I’m like, “Okay, so then I’m just really not going to come around because why am I going to make myself uncomfortable?” I just want your guys’ opinion. I needed to vent and talk to somebody because I can’t talk to my best friend about it. So yeah, any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks, guys. Have a good day.

 

[00:36:42] NICOLE: That’s tough. And I hate to say this, but I do think it’s a cause and effect where this best friend had put up a boundary and said, “I don’t want to get into the relationship that you have with my brother.” And then you broke up and then the boundary was broken. And I’m not saying it was our caller’s fault or the best friend’s fault, but somehow that boundary was broken, and the effect of that boundary broken is, “Oh, I have to put up an even stronger boundary, so I don’t get caught in the middle again.” And it is tough because my advice is get a DeLorean, go back in time, and don’t talk to her about it.

 

[00:37:29] SASHEER: And that’s hard. There’s not many DeLoreans.

 

[00:37:30] NICOLE: That’s pretty tough. Yeah, there’s very few in the world, and they do have a concept one, but that’s not available to the public. And who knows if that time travels?

 

[00:37:42] SASHEER: Yeah, ’cause it seems like maybe the friend/sister ended up doing the things she was trying to avoid, which is get in the middle of her brother and her best friend. So, I understand her perspective being like, “Not again! I did this once. It didn’t feel good. This is exactly what I didn’t want. I don’t even want to hang out with you two together.” It’s also possible your best friend is against you and her brother being together because you guys were not good together. Like, it sounds vague. I mean, I don’t want to label anyone as toxic. We don’t know what the situations were. But if his own family doesn’t like him, that’s a red flag. You know, people–especially men–love their baby boys. People love the people in their family. If they’re like, “I don’t know,” and then they see how tumultuous your relationship is, they may not be saying, “We don’t want you together” because they don’t want you to be part of the family. They may not think he is good for you or you guys aren’t good together.

 

[00:39:00] NICOLE: I thought she said her family doesn’t like him. She said that his family doesn’t like him?

 

[00:39:03] SASHEER: His own family doesn’t like him. Isn’t that what she said? Am I wrong? Did I mishear that? Maybe Judith or Jordan or Kimmy.

 

[00:39:11] JUDITH: From what I remember, she said that her family isn’t into him like that. But also, her best friend–when she would vent to her–was talking shit about her own brother in their relationship. Yeah.

 

[00:39:23] SASHEER: Oh, okay. I thought she was saying his own family doesn’t like him, and I was like, “What are we doing? Red flags all over the place.”

 

[00:39:33] NICOLE: Yeah, I think it’s her family doesn’t like him, and then his family feels funky about her coming over because they had such a bad breakup. But now they’re back together. Yeah, it’s like an “us against the world” type deal. But also, friend seems sick of this man. Friend who called in was like, “We’ve broken up. It’s his fault. He’s done things.” So maybe this relationship that you’re fighting so much for isn’t in the cards.

 

[00:40:09] SASHEER: Yeah. Or at least take some space to think about it because the coming back together doesn’t seem to give you enough time to process maybe what has been happening. Yeah, your friend probably doesn’t want to be in the middle of it again, but she also might just be like, “I don’t think this is good and healthy. I just really don’t want to see it.” Because that would be the case, even if that wasn’t her brother. Even if you had just been on and off with somebody else that she didn’t think that you should be with, she would probably be like, “I don’t really want to see this or be privy to it because it hurts.” It hurts to see your friend make the same mistake over and over again. And you were there for it. And she had to intervene with her own brother. And then for you to go back to him again–I think she’s kind of like, “Okay. My hands up in the air. I don’t want to be a part of this.”

 

[00:41:02] NICOLE: Yeah. There’s no other friends we can vent to?

 

[00:41:07] SASHEER: Yeah, it doesn’t have to be a friend.

 

[00:41:10] NICOLE: Personally, if I was dating your brother, I would not come to you about my issues with your brother. You have a different relationship with your brother. You know what I mean? You all have your relationship. I have my relationship. I don’t really find it helpful to be like, “He did blah, blah, blah.” So, what are you going to do? Go to him, and be like, “You did blah, blah, blah?” It’s too close. I would vent to a different friend–maybe a therapist. But yeah, I hate to say that I’m on the side of the sister and drawing a boundary because that is her brother. That’s blood. Especially if they’re close. I don’t want to hear someone talk shit about someone I’m close to.

 

[00:41:59] SASHEER: And also, like, people do behave differently in romantic relationships than any other relationship in their life. So, I don’t think I would want to know my brother’s, like… I don’t know. I don’t want to know his fights. I don’t want to know the ins and outs of, like, the person he’s with because it’s a different relationship and it’s weird.

 

[00:42:21] NICOLE: Yeah.

 

[00:42:22] SASHEER: Please don’t date my brother.

 

[00:42:27] NICOLE: It’s already begun.

 

[00:42:28] SASHEER: What?

 

[00:42:30] NICOLE: Do you remember the last time he was here?

 

[00:42:32] SASHEER: Yeah.

 

[00:42:34] NICOLE: Well, we decided to start a relationship that was long distance and just not tell you. I have actually been flying him out every other weekend since you’ve been gone.

 

[00:42:43] SASHEER: Oh my God. Oh my God!

 

[00:42:46] NICOLE: And the reason why your key doesn’t work is because it’s filled with my secretions.

 

[00:42:53] SASHEER: Ew! You guys hooking up on my door? What is happening?

 

[00:42:56] NICOLE: Right on your door.

 

[00:43:03] SASHEER: Oh no!

 

[00:43:03] NICOLE: See? That was terrible. No sister wants to hear that.

 

[00:43:13] SASHEER: That was terrible.

 

[00:43:14] NICOLE: Yes. I wouldn’t want to hear about you, like, dating my sister. That would be terrible.

 

[00:43:21] SASHEER: Yeah, and that’s why I’m not going to tell you about it.

 

[00:43:23] NICOLE: Nooo.

 

[00:43:30] SASHEER: Okay. I think that was helpful… I hope.

 

[00:43:35] NICOLE: I hope so, too. I felt a little like, “Hey, caller.” I’m, like, wagging my finger at the caller a little bit. But I do understand not being able to talk to the person you want to talk to you about something. But I think you have to respect those boundaries.

 

[00:43:48] SASHEER: Yeah.

 

[00:43:49] NICOLE: Solved!

 

[00:43:50] JUDITH: I think there’s time for another one. Yeah. Jordan is going to go to two emails. So, go for it, Jordan.

 

[00:43:57] NICOLE: Okay.

 

[00:43:59] JORDAN: So, this is a callback to a past episode about something that happened at the symphony or the orchestra.

 

[00:44:09] SASHEER: Oh, yes.

 

[00:44:10] NICOLE: Okay. “Hi, ladies. So, I have a theory in the orgasm at the symphony. I really think this couple had one of those remote-control vibrators. My ex and I had one called a We-Vibe. And it fits in your underwear with a magnet. And then your partner can control it with a remote. It’s very fun and can be a fun way to spice up an otherwise boring outing.” Wow.

 

[00:44:35] SASHEER: Well, yeah, that’s possible.

 

[00:44:38] NICOLE: It is possible.

 

[00:44:40] SASHEER: I do know that some people get a full body experience from hearing music or even, like, touching things. I want to believe that this lady was a full sensory person.

 

[00:44:53] NICOLE: That’s what I want to believe. I want to believe that a note was hit, and she was like, “Oh noooo!” That’s what I want to believe.

 

[00:45:05] SASHEER: “This feels too good! Oh, nooo!”

 

[00:45:08] NICOLE: Like, I want her in her own house, being like, “Oh!”

 

[00:45:14] SASHEER: Her partner comes home and is like, “Are you listening to orchestras again?”

 

[00:45:17] NICOLE: And she’s like, “Sorry! I wasted it on the music!” Yeah, that’s what I choose to believe.

 

[00:45:27] SASHEER: Yeah.

 

[00:45:28] NICOLE: Can we have another one?

 

[00:45:29] JORDAN: Yes. And this is another–

 

[00:45:32] NICOLE: Sasheer. Oh. Sorry. Real quick. I have a question.

 

[00:45:35] SASHEER: Okay.

 

[00:45:36] NICOLE: I know I asked for another and then immediately started talking. I want to know if any of you guys wear a We-Vibe that’s controlled by your partner at a public outing.

 

[00:45:47] SASHEER: Ooh.

 

[00:45:47] JORDAN: Yeah.

 

[00:45:47] SASHEER: Oh!

 

[00:45:48] NICOLE: You would?

 

[00:45:51] JORDAN: I mean, like, why not?

 

[00:45:54] SASHEER: Yeah.

 

[00:45:54] JORDAN: Wasn’t there a time that people were putting whatever those balls were in their vaginas to help with their, like, Kegel?

 

[00:46:01] NICOLE: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kegel Balls.

 

[00:46:04] SASHEER: Yeah, but those don’t give you orgasms.

 

[00:46:06] NICOLE: No, that’s just strengthening your pelvic floor.

 

[00:46:10] JORDAN: This is true. But as far as I know, I believe there are some that vibrate.

 

[00:46:17] NICOLE: Ohh.

 

[00:46:18] JORDAN: I’m with Jordan. Yeah, I would. It seems like fun.

 

[00:46:22] NICOLE: Kimmie? She’s shaking that head.

 

[00:46:25] KIMMIE: You know what? I have a hard time focusing normally. I can’t even imagine trying to, like–I don’t know–chew cereal, and then you’re suddenly having an orgasm. For me, I think it’s a no bueno.

 

[00:46:43] JORDAN: Actually, this is a full lie; Kimmie’s wearing one right now.

 

[00:46:50] SASHEER: You have been moving a lot through this podcast.

 

[00:46:54] KIMMIE: Damn, they’re onto me.

 

[00:46:57] SASHEER: I think I would be so embarrassed if I moaned or screamed. Yeah, I don’t think I could be silent. I guess it could be a fun thing between you and your partner, like, “Hee hee hee. Let’s see if I can be quiet.” But I think I would get angry if I actually got loud and be like, “You did this to me!”

 

[00:47:18] NICOLE: That’s funny.

 

[00:47:19] JORDAN: What would be the best and the worst outing. Like, clearly having an orgasm right when the music stops at a symphony is not the best time. But like, what if your partner was like, “We’re going to go on a roller coaster, and you’re going to wear this.” I feel like that’s a lot of things at once.

 

[00:47:34] NICOLE: That’s a lot.

 

[00:47:35] SASHEER: I might have a heart attack.

 

[00:47:37] NICOLE: Yeah, you might die–might pass right away. And then if I was the partner who killed my partner on a roller coaster with a vibrator in them, I don’t think I could come back from that.

 

[00:47:51] SASHEER: No. Maybe a concert. A BDM. No, not a symphony. Maybe, like, a loud one. Like, everyone’s dancing and jumping around. Maybe there’s a mosh pit or something.

 

[00:48:03] NICOLE: Coming in a mosh pit.

 

[00:48:05] SASHEER: Everyone else is screaming. Oh, God. That’d be so awful.

 

[00:48:07] NICOLE: You have to defend yourself, and you’re just coming.

 

[00:48:10] SASHEER:  “I think she likes it. I’m punching her, but I think she likes it.”

 

[00:48:19] NICOLE: Everyone just hits you harder ’cause they’re like, “She wants it!” I think I would try it. And if it was too overwhelming, I would remove it.

 

[00:48:30] SASHEER: Yeah.

 

[00:48:32] NICOLE: But I’m not going to just say no. I would try it–maybe at a Walmart. You know, them people are wild.

 

[00:48:40] JORDAN: You know, you could try it at home, right?

 

[00:48:43] NICOLE: Oh, shit.

 

[00:48:45] JORDAN: Put on Sonic and just be with your partner and have that going. That’s how you could do it.

 

[00:48:52] NICOLE: Jordan, no.

 

[00:48:52] JORDAN: Oh, okay. Sorry. Is that too much? Is that a heart attack? It’s not sexual.

 

[00:48:58] NICOLE: Sonic is not sexual. Sonic is a child. Sonic is a little boy–little, blue Alien boy.

 

[00:49:06] JORDAN: You love Sonic! I just figured–

 

[00:49:07] NICOLE: I’m not coming to Sonic! He is a child. He’s an alien child looking for friends and family and a dad!

 

[00:49:21] JORDAN: So, what would be a better movie?

 

[00:49:23] NICOLE: You want me to come to a family film? Oh, Lord, Jordan.

 

[00:49:31] JORDAN: It’s you and your partner. What are you picking?

 

[00:49:34] NICOLE: I don’t know. A sexy movie for adults.

 

[00:49:46] JORDAN: So, Forrest Gump?

 

[00:49:49] NICOLE: Forrest Gump?

 

[00:49:50] SASHEER: It is an adult movie.

 

[00:49:52] NICOLE: I mean, but it starts off with a special needs kid breaking his braces. Do you want me to come while he’s running free of his braces? Jordan! Okay. The sexiest movie I’ve seen in a very long time is 1)… Well, it wasn’t very sexy, but Sylvester Stallone’s naked in it. The Specialist. 2) Unchained Desire? No, that’s not it. Imperfect Proposal? Indecent Proposal. That’s a very sexy movie. Robert Redford. Oowee. I’d wear it for those two movies.

 

[00:50:37] SASHEER: Okay, great.

 

[00:50:40] NICOLE: Sasheer, what movie would you wear it for? Jordan, I cannot believe you said Sonic. It’s wearing it during Winnie the Pooh. Just because Sonic doesn’t wear clothes doesn’t mean he needs to be sexualized.

 

[00:50:55] JORDAN: Okay.

 

[00:50:56] SASHEER: But I thought the point was, like, to do it… I guess there’s no point. But I guess the challenge is to do it in a place or an environment where it wouldn’t be sexual.

 

[00:51:07] NICOLE: Yes. It wouldn’t be sexual because there’s children at Sonic.

 

[00:51:12] SASHEER: It’s children in the movie?

 

[00:51:13] NICOLE: Yeah. In the first one, he watches kids play baseball and then plays at night because he can’t be friends with them because he’s a blue child.

 

[00:51:24] JORDAN: I didn’t know this! I didn’t know this! I’m sorry!

 

[00:51:26] SASHEER: I guess I didn’t know Sonic was a kid. I thought he was–I don’t know–40 years old. He’s been around for a while.

 

[00:51:36] NICOLE: He literally sounds like this, like he’s a child.

 

[00:51:40] SASHEER: Well, he didn’t have a voice during the game.

 

[00:51:42] NICOLE: I guess not.

 

[00:51:45] JORDAN: I just want everyone to know I don’t condone this!

 

[00:51:47] NICOLE: Yeah? Well, Jordan, now I know what you think of Sonic.

 

[00:51:51] JORDAN: I’m so sorry. I didn’t know. I haven’t seen the movies.

 

[00:51:56] NICOLE: Well, why not? I have talked about these movies for years. What is everyone doing? If everyone talked passionately about a movie, I would watch it.

 

[00:52:07] SASHEER: Hmm. Okay. That’s fair. I’m sorry.

 

[00:52:14] NICOLE: What, is everyone sorry that they have forsaken me? Wow.

 

[00:52:24] JORDAN: I think we can wrap up the episode.

 

[00:52:26] NICOLE: Oh my God.

 

[00:52:31] SASHEER: As she sips out of her Sonic cup.

 

[00:52:34] NICOLE: Wow. If you have something to say to Jordan, you can email nicoleandsasheer@gmail.com. If you want to speak vocally about how wrong she is about Sonic, you can call at 424-645-7003.

 

[00:52:49] SASHEER: We also have merch at podswag.com/bestfriends.

 

[00:52:54] NICOLE: If you want to read about Jordan’s transgressions about Sonic, we have transcripts for our new episodes. Check them out on our show page at earwolf.com.

 

[00:53:04] SASHEER: Lastly, don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe. It’s the easiest way to support Nicole’s love of Sonic.

 

[00:53:12] NICOLE: No, watching the movie is. What is going on?

 

[00:53:24] SASHEER: Yes. Please watch the movie, Sonic.

 

[00:53:27] NICOLE: Imagine if rating, reviewing, and subscribing to our podcast somehow gave a view to the Sonic movie on Paramount+. They’re like, “Wow, a lot of people are watching this movie.”

 

[00:53:41] SASHEER: Okay. Bye.

 

[00:53:45] NICOLE: Goodbye.

 

[00:53:47] JORDAN: I truly was just naming movies that you enjoy. I didn’t realize there were children in the movie.

 

[00:53:53] KIMMIE: No, that was so good. That was the hardest I’ve laughed since Sasheer did a British accent. That was so good. That was wonderful.