June 22, 2023
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321.5 — Last Looks: Milk Money
Paul Scheer [00:00:00] Who’s that red sock. Am I Ed Harris? And kids only catch on fire at night. All this and more on a brand new How Did This Get Made Last Looks. Places, everyone! And hit the theme.
Music [00:00:40] [Intro Song]
Paul Scheer [00:00:42] Hello all you tight pajama wearing kids. I’m your milk attendant, Paul Scheer and welcome to How Did This Get Made Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on the Melanie Griffith Ed Harris classic, Milk Money. Plus, Jason and I will answer some listener phone calls and chat about all the stuff that we are currently into. Plus, we’re going to reveal next week’s movie, and at the end of the show, I will share an exclusive bonus scene from the live taping of Milk Money at Largo. But first things first, a big shout out to Devin Helmer for that theme. Yes, Devin, that was awesome. We love these songs and if you have a Last Look’s theme, send it to HowDidThisGetMade@earwolf.com. But keep em short. 15-20 seconds is best. We don’t need to hear anything longer than that. Brevity is the soul of wit, and if you want to see the soul of wit, come see us live. We are going on tour this August. How Did This Get Made is coming to a bunch of East Coast towns. We’re doing two nights in Boston at two different theaters. We’re doing two nights in New York. Well, technically New York and New Jersey. We’re doing a night in Philly and we are doing a night in D.C.. Tickets are almost sold out, but go to HDTGM.com for more info and tickets. The movies are not yet announced so don’t ask me, Paul, what’s the movie? And yes, we’re going to do a different movie every night. And yes, there are going to be special guests for the first time ever. Oh yeah. We got some good stuff lined up for you. Anyway. Go to HDTGM.com right now. All the shows are on sale, and now let’s get into it. Last week, we talked at length about Milk Money. As one of our commenters on Discord called it, “it’s a film that aged so poorly it curdled.” Oh, yeah. That is from Discord user FastAnnaFurious. Anna, thank you for that great tagline. Now, we, of course, had questions about Milk Money and we might have even missed a few things. It is now your chance to set the record straight. Fact check us, if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions.
Music [00:02:57] [Corrections and Ommissions Song]
Paul Scheer [00:03:17] Chris Purcell. Nice job. Love that theme song. Let’s go to the Discord. RyRy80 writes “When the fire alarm is pulled at the school dance. There’s a couple of great ADR lines from Malcolm McDowell when he yells, I hate fire and I don’t like closets.” I did not hear either one of those. “Also, Casey Seimaszko isn’t just murdered by Malcolm McDowell. The news report says it was a ritualistic mutilation and apparently he cut out his heart. This was all in a family film.” Oh, man, I missed the nineties.” RyRy ou said it as best as I could. I feel like this is a movie where Richard Benjamin, who had made a lot of weird movies, just kind of let people go on ADR and was like, No one will care. Noone will listen. And it’s a fucking kid’s movie. And you know what? He was right. Except for when it came to RyRy80. RyRy80 was onto ya. Joe Tanjello writes “My favorite piece of trivia about Milk Money is that one of the kids in the montage where they’re selling porn in school was former Red Sox great and two time World Series champ Kevin Youkilis. He is the kid collecting money outside of the bathroom. Apparently, they filmed this scene at his school in Ohio. Now, I did actually mention this in the show, but I kind of messed up his last name. And I have to say that oftentimes when I do talk about sports on How Did This Get Made, especially in front of a live audience and it goes dead. I remember one time I referenced Steph Curry. The audience had no reaction to it to the point where I was like, Steph Curry. Right. You all know Steph? No, nothing. Now, I will say I was just with June the other day and we were talking about going to see Joni Mitchell and we were with a woman who’s a little bit older and she said, Oh, what concert did you see? And I said, Oh, Joni Mitchell. And she’s like, Oh, who’s that? And I feel like and my question to all of you is that’s a name that even if you’re not familiar with the work, you know the name, right? Joni Mitchell. Bob Dylan, Frank Sinatra. Like they’re names that are synonymous with music, I would think. And this woman was older than us, so she should definitely know. Anyway. I felt like an idiot. But when I brought up Bob Dylan, she’s like, Oh, yes, I know Bob Dylan. He sang Rocky Mountain High. And so maybe it was just maybe it was just the wrong person to ask about music. Maybe she was a How Did This Get Made fan? JayXL writes, “What the hell was going on with the kid’s the leather jacket? The kids in the movie all seem like they wanted to fuck it more than Melanie Griffith. And during the opening air porn market scene, there was a queue of girls paying a quarter apiece to wear it for 3 seconds. Yeah, that was weird. I remember wanting objects like that. Like, I think whenever a kid had an earring, that was a big deal. But like, I remember there was an earring that was like a magnet. And people really wanted to put that on their ear to kind of live vicariously through it. And maybe a leather jacket had that same kind of cachet. I don’t know. That clearly seems like something that is out of somebody’s childhood. So I’m going to I’m going to air on the side of that is real somewhere. Let’s go to the phones. Noel from Albuquerque, what do you got?
Listener [00:06:34] Hey Paul, this is Noel in Albuquerque. You’ll also know me as the twin dad to Evan and Elliot from the Milk Money episode, which we absolutely loved. But I do have a quick correction and omission. In the episode, you guys talk about Kevin and Kevin’s dad, but you leave out a little bit of the fact that Kevin’s dad is an OCD compulsive neat freak, which is why when he gets out of bed to call the Anne Heche character, he makes the bed as if he wasn’t in it. And this comes back later in Kevin’s reaction to learning that his dad is lying to them and cheating on his his mother with Vee and Kevin’s reaction to go full on pig pen is a reaction to that kind of OCD compulsive neat freak that Kevin is mimicking. And we see this also in the credits where Kevin’s dad’s character, his only reference is as Mr. Clean. So I think that kind of carries through in those two characters and with what’s going on. So anyways, we love you guys. The babies love you guys. Babies love Jason will definitely come and visit when we’re back out in L.A. Talk to you later.
Paul Scheer [00:07:40] Okay, well, first of all, hi to the twins. I buy it. Okay. You make a good point. You said a lot of things that I don’t remember. So honestly, based on my lack of memory of this film, I’m going to say that you are 100% right. Thank you for clearing that out. Kevin’s dad is an OCD neat freak. Thomas from Santa Clara writes, Well, he doesn’t write anything. He actually just calls and leaves a voicemail that sounds like this.
Listener [00:08:07] Hey, this is Thomas from Santa Clara. I just wanted to say, Paul, I’m on your side. This movie is crazy. Between the child solicitation and the child endangerment, all the adults in the movie should be in jail. But the thing that bothered me the most was something you guys touched on, which was the $250,000 that V gets at the end. How does that pay for everything? Well, I did some basic inflation math, and that amount of money in today’s money is about 513,000. And the average cost per acre of land in Pennsylvania right now is around 30 grand. So in that in that time period, you figure $14,600 per acre, probably five acres, not a lot of land to save. So that’s the. $73,000. Plus $17,000 for a brand new Chrysler LeBaron convertible wild choice for a car. So with those two things, she’s only entered about 90K. So that leaves $160,000 for however much it cost to franchise or buy a small town ice cream shop and all of the liability insurance they’re going to need for that marshland because kids and people are going to get hurt and they’re going to pay for it. But I guess it’s plausible. That’s the only part of the movie that makes sense.
Paul Scheer [00:09:17] All right. Wow. That is absolutely shocking. Wow. I guess $250,000 was good. I mean, you know, he’s right about the insurance, but I guess you could get around that. Again, it was a different time. Maybe insurance rates were down. All right. I’m impressed with that, Thomas. Anyway, let’s go to Abby.
Listener [00:09:37] Hi, this is Abby. I was just listening to the Milk Money episode, and I remembered something kind of hilarious right off the top. I thought you would have known. I thought in an episode of Party Down, Megan Mullally gets really stoned, and you’re in it, and she keeps referring to you as Ed Harris. And she goes, Oh, I love Milk Money. And this is always been in my head, but I know it’s been years since I’ve seen any of this so, really, really funny. Thank you. Bye.
Paul Scheer [00:10:12] Abby, I don’t remember this at all, but good thing our producer Scott does. And Scott actually pulled a clip from Party Down. Your memory was correct, Abby. Take a listen.
Paul Scheer (Party Down) [00:10:25] Dude, I am sorry about this whole thing. It was petty of me. It was small. You deserve better.
Show Audio [00:10:33] Yeah.
Show Audio [00:10:35] How do you know Ed Harris? Wasn’t he wonderful in Milk Money? I feel depressed. How do you fix that?
Paul Scheer [00:10:42] All right, that was. Yeah, that’s a great episode. I really love that episode. Well, that’s a great episode. I love being in that episode. I’m a huge fan of Party town, and if not, watch the new season of Party Down on Starz. Get to it. It’s just it gets better and better. Jennifer Garner is in it and she’s great. Ken Marino, So funny. Martin Starr, the whole, I could name everybody. I could name them all. They’re all great. Adam Scott, of course. People are upset Adam Scott has not come back and we will get to him. We’ll get a response from Adam about fast X soon enough. Okay. What is up next? Oh, we got a phone call from Margaret about kids PJs. All right, I’m in.
Listener [00:11:20] Hi, Paul, this is Margaret. I am calling with some info about children’s PJs. I used to sell them, and this is kind of crazy, but the reason that children’s PJs are supposed to be tight fitting and flame retardant goes back to the time of people smoking in the seventies and falling asleep while smoking and accidentally setting their houses on fire. So the smoking industry pushed to make furniture and children’s pages flame retardant so that they would not catch fire and not be liable for children’s stuff. It’s crazy, but that is the reason why PJs, children’s PJs still are cut very tightly for the body, form fitting, and they are flame retardant. And the only reason that they can get away with not being flame retardant is if they’re extra, extra form fitting. So I thought that would be interesting info for you all to have. Thanks.
Paul Scheer [00:12:17] But wait. So we have now kept pajamas tight on kids because when we used to smoke, can’t we just loosen that up a little bit? Oh, I, now. Well, I’m glad that June is right, but I also feel like she’s wrong because it’s, you know, a relic of a bygone era. But anyway, the pajama talk continues on the discord. As Amanda’s Amy writes, “Everyone mocked June about her views on tight fitting pajamas to prevent burns and fires. But as a mom, I know that all kids pajamas come with a big tag, attached them about this exact thing. There are actually rules and regulations mandating that pajamas are either flame retardant or tight fitting.” Now she posts this picture. I get this. Like I order pajamas all the time from, not all the time, but a lot. And I’ve seen this tag. This is for children’s safety. The garment should fit snugly. This garment is not flame resistant. Loose fitting garment is more likely to catch fire. Okay, well, I see that. And maybe that’s what June said. I always find that on really cheapo stuff. But anyway, Scott chimes in, is our producer, Scott, and he goes, In 1996, the Consumer Product Safety Council Commission introduced a loophole into children’s sleepwear regulations that says kids PJs do not. Repeat, do not have to be fire resistant as long as they are snug fitting. Why? Well, because type thing pajamas are less likely to ignite if the child is near an open flame and they are less flammable due to a lack of oxygen between the child’s skin and the garment. So why wouldn’t a parent simply. Buy a regular fit PJs that are fire resistant? Well, flame resistant chemicals and sometimes irritate the skin and may be linked to health problems.” Does this vindicate June? Well. One discord user chimes in. Richard Ballshaff says, “The pajamas are already designed to be close, fitting at the correct size. There’s no need to size down. Well, okay. But here’s the thing. Why are we so worried about fucking pajamas? What about regular clothes? Like we only are going to catch fire at night? Like we’re only escaping a fiery inferno at night? I call bullshit on it. All clothes should be tight fitting then. But we can’t just go like the fires start at night. We’re not cave men and women and people. Anyway, so many great questions and omissions this week, but there can only be one. And honestly, the winner is clear. I don’t want to get into the pajama talk. Abby. Amazing ear for remembering that I was referenced as the main character of this film, but truly, the person who brought it all home for me was my friend Thomas from Santa Clara, who did the actual math and found out how much money V got at the end of this movie. And honestly, the time that you spent there means that you, sir, are a winner and you get this amazing song from Homonym. Hit it.
Music [00:15:07] [Winner Song]
Paul Scheer [00:15:15] All right. If you want to take part in this kind of discussion, please do hit us up on the discord at Discord.gg/HDTGM or call us at 619-PAULASK. But if you want to submit a tagline like I introduced the segment with today, you can also do that as well. There’s all these forums and boards. I love Discord. It’s great. Coming up, Jason I answer some listener phone calls and recommend TV shows and movies that we’re currently into. Plus, I reveal next week’s movie, and at the very end of the show, I will share an exclusive deleted scene from our Milk Money episode. So you don’t want to miss that. Stick around.
Paul Scheer [00:15:53] All right, people, you probably noticed that the How Did This Get Made feed on every Monday. We are pulling out an old episode and rereleasing them back into the rotation. This week’s Matinee Monday was holy matrimony, and next week’s will be My Stepmom is an Alien, directed by Milk Money director Richard Benjamin. So keep on checking out these replays of old episodes of How Did This Get Made every single Monday. And let’s let’s go into just chat. Let’s do a little bit different because Jason, I decided for just chat this week. We’re going to open up the help line one more time and offer up our expert advice. And we even toss in some TV and movie recommendations too. Rob from Long Island. Take it away.
Music [00:16:42] [Just Chat Song]
Paul Scheer [00:16:58] All right, Jason, we occasionally do this, a chance to talk back to people, give them advice, help them with their lives. We got some phone calls. Should we go to the phone and see what people have to say?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:10] Sure. Why not? Why not?
Paul Scheer [00:17:13] Boom.
Listener [00:17:14] Hi, Paul. This is Nate from Cincinnati. I had a question that keeps getting brought up over the course of the How Did This Get Made podcast. All three of you have brought up coffee drinking and tea drinking at one point or another, and it always makes me thirsty for a good cup of tea or a good cup of coffee. During one of the episodes that I can’t remember, June brought up that you Paul, make a fantastic pot of coffee in the morning, but she never went into details on what makes this pot of coffee so damn good. So my question to you is what do you do to make your coffee the best in the world? Thanks, Paul. Take care.
Paul Scheer [00:17:56] It was a very a very good question. I feel like we both can kind of tackle because I know, Jason, you also have some techniques. I got to tell you this. Yeah. First and foremost, I was in London at one point and I was in this very famous tea shop. Amazing. It’s like a a floor of tea.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:19] Oh, wow.
Paul Scheer [00:18:19] And I was looking around and I said to June, I sent her a text. I said, June should I get some tea? Anything you like? And she’s like, hard pass. Is what she sent me from the world’s greatest tea company here. And, you know, I. I like tea. I like a tea. I will make a tea. I like a tea at the end of the night. You like a tea during the day or. I’ve seen you kind of.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:48] Coffee, day. Tea, night person. Unless. Unless I’m wanting. Yeah, that’s. That’s pretty much how it shakes out.
Paul Scheer [00:18:56] Okay. Because I’ll tell you this much. I don’t drink hot coffee. I don’t love hot coffee. I’ll have a latte. I’ll do different things. I like. I like an iced coffee. I found myself loving this new brand I’m going to probably mispronounce its name, but it’s. I think it’s called Combatir or Cometeer. I don’t know. And it basically is like bouillon cubes of coffee. They come frozen in a little pod, but they’re from some of the best coffee places around the country. And then you would drop that into a coffee cup and then pour hot water over it and it becomes coffee. But it’s it’s not like instant because it’s frozen like an ice pop. And I actually use it for great iced coffee. It’s the first time I’ve really loved my iced coffee because the coffee’s so good. It’s from Go get em, tiger. It’s from all these cool places. And you can kind of dictate what you want out of the box. But that has been my new go to for like, an iced beverage because I feel like I can’t figure out the cold brew thing to my liking. It’s always a little too, too much for me.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:03] Yeah, I get that.
Paul Scheer [00:20:04] But yeah, I mean, but I will say this. I make a great pot of coffee for June. I don’t know what it is. I think it’s just. I think that June likes a very basic coffee. She likes Pete’s Major Dickinson.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:21] Oh, wow.
Paul Scheer [00:20:22] Blend. That’s what she likes. I’ve tried to change that. I’ve tried to bring other coffees into the house, and she sniffs them out from a mile away. I’ve tried to sell her on grinding beans and doing it like that. She won’t do it. Oh, I like all that stuff. I love all that.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:41] See, that’s my whole that’s my whole gig. My whole morning is like I’m making it takes me a minute to make. I’m making. I’m grinding beans in a big bur grinder. I make a French, I make a French press every morning. If you want to see me, make a French press actually. Yeah, from many, many, many years ago. Over ten years ago. But it’s the same. I still do the same exact thing now than I did then. I did a video for Amy Poehler’s Boys Minute and yeah, when she had that channel going, what was the channel called? The segment was Smart Girls, Smart Girls. Thank you. There was a segment called Boys Minute. And in my minute I talked about how I make a French press. And so I grind beans. I traditionally use go get them beans or counterculture or a couple of other.
Paul Scheer [00:21:31] Counterculture is part of this Cometeer thing.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:34] Oh, nice.
Paul Scheer [00:21:34] Yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:36] So I’ll grind, I’ll grind beans, I’ll make a French press every morning. I subscribe to I’ll shout out James Hoffman, who is a British YouTube coffee expert. He’s a British coffee expert who has a prominent YouTube coffee channel. I use his french press. I’ve altered. I’ve actually altered my French press method that is in that Amy Poehler in the boys minute video. Slightly to accommodate James Hoffmann’s method, which I actually think is a little bit better.
Paul Scheer [00:22:10] By the way, I want to just say that Jason, very easily. All you have to do is type in Jason Mantzoukas French press. First thing that comes up is you right here with boys minute.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:18] Great. So that’s it. That’s like I make I make a French press every day and I have for, you know, 20 years.
Paul Scheer [00:22:25] Now, I like that idea. I like process. I like getting in. I like smelling the beans.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:30] And it’s it’s also when I watch, like, that’s when I’ll watch something that I might want to watch that I might just want to have. Like it’s when I oftentimes will will process like that week’s SNL or, or certain things that I, that don’t demand my full attention, but I want to watch, you know, I’ll put it on the iPad while I make my coffee or just NPR or Howard Stern.
Paul Scheer [00:22:54] No, I love that. I love that idea. Like, and this is what I feel like I’m often trying to sell June on, you know, this idea of like, let’s try it, let’s up it, let’s upgrade it. But no, she has very specific things. Now, I’m going to say this to you, Jason. Yeah, ten years ago, you let cameras into your house?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:15] Isn’t this crazy.
Paul Scheer [00:23:15] Yes.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:16] I watched this recently. And I was like, Wow, I can’t believe. This is a period, though, when it didn’t occur to me, This is not my house now. This is not. This is my this is where I lived many, many years ago. But yeah, there is that’s like that is isn’t that nuts?
Paul Scheer [00:23:31] It is truly shocking.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:34] Yeah, I agree.
Paul Scheer [00:23:35] And that’s my biggest takeaway from that. And it looks great. But yes. Oh, so we use a Cuisinart pot. Very. Basically, everything is super, super basic. I’ve tried to up the ante. I will do different things. Like when I was making my cold brew, I would be like putting, I would be grinding up some hazelnuts of different different things. I try to like cinnamon and all that sort of stuff, trying to make it, you know. But, you know, simple wins the race for June and and now that I have this like way to make my ice coffee in the morning I really like that because I’m also still taking that time, you know like it just I like the preparation of it. I like having it and then I put it in a big yeti and I walk around and I get to sip it. But let’s talk tea for a second. Just quickly, some tea stuff. You are you you rocking tea bags? Are you, are you putting the little C? Okay. All right.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:27] I’m almost always doing a tea bag. Loose tea. I have loose tea. I almost never go for it because it’s that’s when I don’t necessarily want process. Got it You know it’s tea is usually like it’s laid I want like I’m I just want some tea to kind of wind down. I would rather just throw a tea bag in and and do that.
Paul Scheer [00:24:49] I mean this is where I mean look I’m know no offense to anyone out there who loves making their own tea, but Celestial seasonings. This is where I’m get I’m, I’m getting into like just give me some of the nice and basic give me. Oh, yeah, yeah. I love it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:03] Yeah. Give me a give me a moroccan mint tea. Give me.
Paul Scheer [00:25:06] Love that.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:07] You know or just straight up give me something like camomile or something very, you know, ginger or, you know, very mellow, very easy end of night kind of tea.
Paul Scheer [00:25:19] And I will say this, which people don’t know, but I feel like I should share it. A lot of people say like when you have a, when you have a sore throat or something like that, you should be drinking tea. And that’s the exact opposite, apparently. But I’ve talked to a lot of singers, so you should not exacerbate the vocal cords any more than they are by putting hot liquid.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:37] That’s interesting.
Paul Scheer [00:25:38] Yeah, but I will I will tell you that, Jason, I often talk about, you know, this website, wirecutter, which we like, and they have a whole section on the best teas. Like.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:51] Do they really?
Paul Scheer [00:25:52] Oh, yes. A smooth ruby black tea with honey notes is us too. It’s Taiwanese black tea, Manhattan black. And they also talk about like a a black tea for those who like it with milk. That’s Taylor of Harrogate Scottish breakfasts. That’s how they got a lot of different stuff here with the links to go get it. So that’s Wirecutter has a whole big thing. Oh.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:09] Okay. All right, I’ll check that out.
Paul Scheer [00:26:11] Hit us with another call, Scott.
Listener [00:26:12] Hi, this is Victoria from San Diego. I just wanted to say I just finished listening to the fact that the first X last looks with Jason and it was super fun, but I just kind of wanted to describe it as it felt a lot like when Mom goes out with her girlfriends for the first time in a while and Dad has to watch the kids and kind of doesn’t really know what he’s doing on his own, but it’s still super fun. Love all you do. Bye.
Paul Scheer [00:26:40] Well, Jason, let me tell you, first of all, people love you as a host. People say, put some respect on Jason’s name, too, as host. We always know that you’re going to deliver, you know, and and you get to come in and have to do this from tip to tail. And I appreciate it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:54] Oh, happily. But I’m. And I think, you know, I’m trying my best to give big substitute teacher energy.
Paul Scheer [00:27:02] I love that. Look when when June goes out, I do this thing that is not it’s not indicative of our household at all. But I get my sons to start chanting boys night. Boys Night is the same as every other night in our house. But it is like. But it is, like, so fun to feel like someone’s not there. And you get to. You get to kind of run the show the way that you want to do it. I’ll tell you this much shocked that by the time you were releasing that episode, Fast ten on Video on Demand, What is going on? The movie was in the theater for three weeks.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:40] Do you think that’s indicative of it underperforming at the box office?
Paul Scheer [00:27:44] So I did a little research on this, and I found out that that is just Universal Studios.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:51] Well, that’s their window?
Paul Scheer [00:27:51] Way of acting because they I guess it oddly is as profitable as keeping it in the theater. So three weeks in the theater, and then you’re charging people $19 to $24 per, you know, per buy, because it’s like even I think it’s 19 to rent and 24 to buy. Well, by the way, I bought it. I had to. And what I what I really love about Fast & Furious being out so quickly is the amount of rips that people have just taken little moments like Jason Momoa just going, woo hoo and then jumping or the, you know, no spoiler alert here because hopefully you’ve already watched it. Gal Godot. The smile at the end, like everything about it. It’s like you get to enjoy it while it’s still a part of the cultural conversation.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:38] Yes, well, it’s still in the zeitgeist. I like that. I haven’t, I haven’t bought it yet, but I did buy John Wick 4. Boy Oh boy. Just so I can rewatch it. I’ve, I’ve already watched it twice.
Paul Scheer [00:28:48] So good.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:50] It is fantastic. I know we’re not currently talking about what we’ve been watching, but boy, I just love popping in and watching a bunch of it. It’s great.
Paul Scheer [00:28:59] Oh, it is such a fun movie. I bought that as soon as I could get it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:04] Donnie Yen a flawless addition to this universe.
Paul Scheer [00:29:08] Okay. Now, the very large gentleman that is plays, he plays cards with. Right. Did not realize that was all like a nutty professor suit.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:19] Yeah, that’s Scott Atkins.
Paul Scheer [00:29:20] I did not know that. And then when I looked and I’ve you know, I’ve clearly I didn’t I did not know all of his.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:29] Scott Atkins is like a prolific, you know, like B-movie movie action star. Okay. And he’s like a huge he’s he’s an incredible a performer. He’s he’s really he’s also a he’s in at least John Wick one.
Paul Scheer [00:29:45] He’s also in Ip Man 4.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:49] Donnie Yen again.
Paul Scheer [00:29:50] I did not know that much about this guy. And so when I saw that, I was like, whoa, this was really I mean, that transformation is pretty awesome.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:58] Yeah, it’s a good it’s a good suit. It’s a he looks he looks very compelling.
Paul Scheer [00:30:03] Especially when you see how cut he is.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:05] Like and, and, and he’s and he’s able to fight well and it, it’s like it’s the movie is fucking rad.
Paul Scheer [00:30:12] Oh it’s so, so good. All right, What do we got? What’s the next call here?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:19] Oh, wait a minute. Can I just. Can we pause for one second? Yeah. I just wanted to say I like that the vibe of me hosting Last Looks is Dad’s away.
Paul Scheer [00:30:30] Mom’s away.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:31] Mom’s away. Dad’s away. The kids are running the kingdom. That’s all I want.
Paul Scheer [00:30:36] I love it. I mean.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:38] More like uncle’s in charge.
Paul Scheer [00:30:40] I look, I love it that it is happening like that.
Listener [00:30:44] Hi, Paul. This is Aaron in Boston. And. And Meghan is a huge fan. Yes. And we kind of have a dilemma that we need your help solving. So we moved to Boston back in 2019 and are huge fans of the show. We were really excited. We moved here cause we’re like, they always come to Boston. We’ll see a show. Now, of course, the pandemic happened and a lot’s changed in our lives since then. So the only problem now is we’re moving away from Boston in December and July 25th we’re having a baby. So we kind of have a dilemma here of what do we do? What’s the freshest baby you can bring to a show? Yes. So any help or advice on this? Much appreciated. Thanks.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:37] What’s the freshest baby you can bring to a show?
Paul Scheer [00:31:40] We’ve had very we’ve had very young babies. I mean.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:43] Really, we’ve had newborn somebody brought like a three week old baby to his show once at least, and maybe even, maybe even less. I don’t know.
Paul Scheer [00:31:52] You know, I think that the the the thing that I would say is this. If you’re just bringing the baby to bring the baby. God bless. But, you know, this is also supposed to be a time out for you all as well. Like, if it’s going to be too much of I’m not saying it for us. I’m saying it for you, the audience. If it’s too much for you to deal with a baby, that’s not going to be sitting still for you. I don’t think you should bring the baby just because I think you won’t enjoy it. But a lot of people bring these young babies that are just sleeping and and then it’s great.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:23] Oh, yeah. If you think you can. If you think you can get by without it making you or let’s be honest, the people around you distracted or uncomfortable or anything like that, then bring the baby. But also, like, don’t prioritize seeing this show live over being good parents. Get it together. Idiots. You know, stay home with your goddamn baby. The baby. You’re going to bring a brand new baby to. Let me be clear. You’re going to bring a brand new baby to a crowded show of all places in Boston, my hometown. You know, some you know, there’s some some fuckin fan, some Boston fan is going to think that baby thinks it’s better than them. And then the person’s going to want to fight the baby because Boston is what happens, do you think? You think you’re smarter than me, baby? Watch out. That’s what’s going to happen. And you don’t.
Paul Scheer [00:33:20] We don’t want baby fights.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:21] You got to protect your baby from fucking drunk Boston maniacs, which is 90% of our audience when we’re there.
Paul Scheer [00:33:28] I often say this, too, and maybe I’ve already said this. I don’t want to repeat myself, but I’m going to. This is a night for parents. Like bring your baby if you want, but also if you have a chance to get out of the house with a brand new baby and you can relax for a two and a half hours, you get a nice meal. Like as a parent, I say, embrace that, embrace that. You know, just enjoy that, too. Don’t don’t, don’t sacrifice a night out just for a chance that Jason may bless your baby.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:01] And also don’t bring your baby thinking that’s what I want.
Paul Scheer [00:34:05] Well, that’s the whole thing.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:06] I don’t want you people. I don’t want bringing people, bringing babies that shouldn’t be there. If a baby, don’t think that having a baby at a show grants you entree to talking to me, getting near me or anything like that, I’m not interested. The baby baby tried to murder me in Houston, Texas. Let’s be clear. Okay.
Paul Scheer [00:34:26] By the way, I will say that, you know, the truth of the matter is, after that baby gave you covid in Texas, so you’re you’re a little more suspect of babies.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:37] Oh, I haven’t touched a baby since. And I didn’t even touch that baby that night.
Paul Scheer [00:34:41] So I guess the question comes down to this. July 25th, we do a show. Is it too soon? You know what? It may be the perfect time. You got to call it as you see it. We don’t charge extra for babies, but if your baby is not colicky, not weird, then. Then jump on in and and in an embrace and embrace the embrace being a new parent. But yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:07] Oh, somebody is showing us on screen right now a picture of some people brought twins to Largo recently. Yeah. Oh, my God. They were babies. One of whom I believe was named middle name June. Yeah. So far, I haven’t heard of anybody naming their baby Jason or even more preferred Zoox. Why not? Why not?
Paul Scheer [00:35:30] Why don’t you? Yeah. That would be interesting. I like.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:34] Think about it, everybody. All right. I was going to say before we wrap up, can I just shout out a few things that I’ve been watching that I want to give some attention to?
Paul Scheer [00:35:43] Absolutely. Because I have I was going to say maybe we should just each list off three things we want to like clue people in on because we haven’t talked about it for a little bit time. So we just kind of make it quick, but we just kind of touch on three things.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:54] Okay. So a couple of things that I want to shout out. I’ve talked about them a little bit, so you might have heard me talk about it, but Polite Society then need a monster movie. The same creator from the Peacock show We are Lady Parts which show I loved. This movie is incredible. A beautiful British coming of age comedy. It’s hilarious. It’s fantastic. Polite Society. It’s it’s. You can get it now, buy it, rent it, support, please support it. Where we talked so much about Big IP, Fast and Furious’ and Star Wars and Marvel’s. Let’s support smaller things. So to that end, polite society.
Paul Scheer [00:36:34] I love that. I’ll say one thing and say a friend of the podcast, a frequent guest on the podcast, Seth Rogan, has a great show called Platonic, which I really have been enjoying.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:44] Oh, I haven’t seen it yet.
Paul Scheer [00:36:46] Apple TV. It’s really funny. And I don’t know, I think that this handled this idea really well, which is like, it’s I love the relationship between him and Rose Byrne. They are just male and female friends, but they’re they do a great job of taking the sexual energy out of it and really making it about great friends. And that’s all. I mean, I’m a huge fan of Nick Stoller and I, and I think as much as I love his movies, I actually love seeing him when he does television as well because I feel like he can even breathe longer in these things and you get these nice, bigger scenes. I just think that his writing is always so great for his character. So high recommended of Platonic and a shout out to Carla Gallo, who is very, very funny in it.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:28] Oh, nice. Great. I will shout out The Other Two, which is absolutely pound for pound, the funniest show on television right now. I think they are about to finish this season. Season three, it’s on Max. It’s absolutely so fucking funny. This show, while also having moments of genuine heartbreak and heart ache that are so real and land so well. I don’t know any other show right now that is so successful at at both heartbreak and absurd, hilarious comedy. It’s fantastic. The other two absolutely dynamite. What else you got?
Paul Scheer [00:38:11] I’m going give a location out here. If you’re in Los Angeles and you live on the east side. I live on the East Side. So excited that Vidiots is now open for business video. Vidiots is one of the premier video stores here in Los Angeles that used to be all the way out in Santa monica. They still rent movies. They built a giant video store. You can rent tons of great stuff, stuff you can’t find anywhere else. But more importantly, they have an open, beautiful theater. They’ve converted this like this old church and the screenings that they have, this is just from like last month, like on a Saturday. You could go in the afternoon and see Who Framed Roger Rabbit, and then at night, go see One Eyed Jack. You could go see Repo Man and Fantastic Mr. Fox, The Birdcage and Crooklyn. It’s great. It’s like having and this is a very specific L.A. reference, a new Beverly on the east side. And that to me, is thrilling. Really. Well.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:05] Tell me again where it is.
Paul Scheer [00:39:05] It’s it’s in Eagle Rock. It’s right on the main strip in Eagle Rock. It’s beautiful location, fun shows, great interviews going on. Directors are popping up there all the time and the theater is completely brand new, beautifully redone, Giant every Saturday and Sunday afternoon as a kids matinee or kids film, family movie. And then they’re just doing a tremendous programing. And I think it’s going to just build and build and build and build.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:32] Okay, great. I’m going to throw in just a couple of quick things on Freevee, which is Amazon’s ad supported network, where I’ve talked about the Tegan and Sara Show High school that I loved coming of age story, another incredible coming of age story. Primo. Yes, Shea Serrano’s show, produced by Mike Schur. One of the writers is friend of the show Jason Concepcion, who does his own fantastic podcast, X-ray Vision. I can’t recommend this show enough. It is another coming of age story. Very funny, but also such good heart, such a great heart show, really human stuff, really fun in a category that I feel like is really underserved right now. It’s just really teen coming of age stuff that is very funny and not like goofy or not. It doesn’t have a lot of added stuff. It’s just great coming of age storytelling. It feels like a John Hughes movie or something. You know?
Paul Scheer [00:40:34] I want to bring up one thing that I. I just felt like I reopened my eyes to obviously, Indiana Jones fever. I don’t know if its’ sweeping the nation out of it’s sweeping the nation, but it’s here. You know, I heard.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:45] I heard there’s a vaccine coming.
Paul Scheer [00:40:46] Yeah, we got to get that. It’s the the.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:49] That fever is high.
Paul Scheer [00:40:50] I know. You got to get that that vaccine. So now I will tell you this. I have been getting ready for Indiana Jones and I rewatched Temple of Doom which is not one that I would ever really reach for and man alive. I love this movie and it’s worth a rewatch. It’s so weird. It’s so dark. It’s. I don’t know. I was having a conversation the other day about it. It is truly two men who, at a point in their careers were like, We are unstoppable. And every note that someone would give them to make it more family friendly, more four quadrant. They did not take. And I think that the recipe some people may hate it. I think it’s wonderful.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:33] And it’s kind of like the Empire Strikes Back of Indy because it’s darker, it’s harsher. It’s not it doesn’t have. It’s like it’s a much harder movie.
Paul Scheer [00:41:44] Yeah, Indie likes the fuck in that movie. And and kids are being, like, tortured and kidnaped and there’s voodoo and it’s it’s, it’s really fun. Here’s the thing I’ll say, and the larger point of it is like, it’s unfortunate that that movie had such critical backlash or, you know, people are like, Oh, it’s too dark. You know, it’s the reason why PG 13 came into existence because of the heart grab scene.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:08] Which my sister because we went to it. My dad took me and my sister to it and had to like take my sister out of the theater. And she still will talk about how upsetting it was to watch him reach in and pull someone’s heart out.
Paul Scheer [00:42:22] A moment when which Mola Ram reaches into someone’s chest, pulls out their heart no blood and is fucking. It scarred me as well. It scarred me as well. It’s so good. But the but I’ll say this if if only people were on board with it because they think that the wrong lessons were taken from that movie, which was like, let’s try to recreate the first one where this was such a crazily fun departure from the first one. That I don’t know. Anyway, it’s worth a look back. I was kind of like two too. When these trilogies are coming out, they kind of catch up on all that sort of stuff. And. And that was a fun one to watch.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:58] Let me just shout out a couple of other things just because I want them to get the attention they deserve. The second season of Somebody Somewhere, The Bridget Everett Show on Max is back and is so beautiful. Our friend Jeff Hiller, again, doing absolutely incredible work on that show. Kyle Kinane has a new comedy special out. That’s very funny. We were talking about Joni recently. Yeah. The folk singer Karen Dalton has a, there’s a beautiful documentary about her called In My Own Time. I loved American Born Chinese. Are you watching American Born Chinese?
Paul Scheer [00:43:31] I haven’t watched it yet.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:32] Yeah. Holy shit. This shows good American born Chinese based on an incredible comic. So I. Not just is the show fantastic. A reunion of almost everybody from Everything Everywhere All at Once. The show is fantastic, but the comic is fantastic, so I can’t recommend it enough. If you liked the show or if you want to get into it, this is a great entry way for young people. Comic. This is a good comic for young people. This is another great coming of age story. I love them.
Paul Scheer [00:44:00] I have shoutout at one thing too. If you’re not watching Star Trek Strange New Worlds, new season has started, and I really like this show. It’s it is like technically a prequel, but it’s a week by week episodic fun Star Trek show, back to basics, not mired in a lot of the stuff that I think a lot of people have been reacting negatively towards, even though that seems to be where they’re following up with more shows. But this is a nice, clean slate. And I like I like a lot of the new stuff too, but oh yeah.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:31] Paul, that’s a great segway for my last recommendation, which is predicated entirely on you. Oh, I have watched season three of Picard and holy shit is it fantastic.
Paul Scheer [00:44:44] Isn’t it great?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:45] It is fantastic. And this is coming from someone who, I have not watched any other seasons of Picard. I have only the most cursory knowledge of Star Trek The Next Generation. I’m not a, this is not a, I don’t know the cannon. I don’t know the history. I don’t know any of this stuff, But it didn’t matter at all. This was exciting.
Paul Scheer [00:45:09] How great.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:11] It’s a whodunit in space. I mean, great self-contained. It felt like what I was saying a couple of weeks ago about all these Agatha Christie’s that I’ve been watching. Yes. It felt like a self-contained mystery in space, though. I loved it.
Paul Scheer [00:45:24] And I mean, can we just say Jonathan Frakes, Amazing performance. Amazing performance. Right. And and then I just have to shout out. Michael Dorn as well. You know, I want to call out one thing because Avril Halley are amazing movie picking producer. She heard us have this conversation about murder mysteries. Right. And so she wrote me and she goes, I want to give you a few recommendations. So these are Avril recommendations. And I can speak to one of them, which I love. The Last of Sheila, 1973, written by Stephen Sondheim with Anthony Perkins. The cast is phenomenal. This movie is amazing. It was brought to my attention by Rian Johnson, I think, when he was talking about the inspirations for Knives Out, Knives Out. She said. Her personal favorite Perot adaptation was The Evil under the Sun.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:17] I haven’t.
Paul Scheer [00:46:18] Peter Ustinov.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:19] Oh, okay. Yeah, he’s done. Peter Ustinov is Perot in a bunch of them. Yeah, I haven’t seen that one. I’ve seen some of the other ones.
Paul Scheer [00:46:26] And then she said, Death Trap. So funny, so cynical, so twisted. I don’t want to spoil anything else. So those are three great recommendations from Avril who, we force her to pick shitty movies but also has amazing taste across the board. So I wanted to give her a shout out though.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:42] Oh no, that’s good. And those are good recs. Okay, good. I’m glad.
Paul Scheer [00:46:44] All right, great. Jason, we will talk again soon.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:47] Home run. Bye.
Paul Scheer [00:46:48] Bye. All right. Thank you, Jason, for just chatting with me, just giving advice with me. I hope we gave you some good recommendations there. But now that we got Milk Money out of the way, let’s talk about next week’s movie. We’re going from boys learning to fuck to Ben Affleck in a What the Fuck movie. That’s right. Next week we are watching Robert Rodriguez’s 2023. That’s right, 2023 thriller Hypnotic. It just came out a few weeks ago. And boy, oh, boy, it’s a doozy. Here’s a short breakdown of the plot. A detective investigates a mystery involving his missing daughter and a secret government program. Actually, that’s pretty concise. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 35% score on the tomato meter. And James Borodini from Real Reviews says “this is what happens when a less talented director tries to make a Christopher Nolan movie.” Oh, shots fired. Anyway, listen to the trailer.
Trailer Audio [00:47:48] Are you familiar with the concept of hypnotics?
Trailer Audio [00:47:51] Hypnotics?
Trailer Audio [00:47:56] Hypnotics have the ability to influence the brain.
Trailer Audio [00:47:59] It’s very hard.
Trailer Audio [00:48:02] A version of the world. That doesn’t exist.
Trailer Audio [00:48:06] I have to know everything.
Trailer Audio [00:48:09] What you see isn’t real.
Trailer Audio [00:48:13] Hypnotic rated R only theaters May 12th.
Paul Scheer [00:48:16] Now Look Hypnotic just came out in theaters last month. It’s already available to rent as a premium VOD title. And I know it’s going to be expensive, so I’m going to say this. Please try to watch it. But if you can’t, I think you will be able to get it. Nonetheless, maybe watch a clip or two just to get an idea of what we’re talking about. But again, I think you’re going to get it. Now, before we wrap up the episode, I want you to check out this bonus scene from our Milk Money show where we answer an audience members question about the scene between Melanie Griffith and Philip Bosco.
Paul Scheer [00:48:47] Okay. Yes, to your question.
Listener [00:48:49] Yeah. To get back to the $250,000, she spends all that in this suburb that’s what, like a couple of hours bike ride outside of the town, immediately.
Paul Scheer [00:48:58] By the way, she walks home. So I think it’s I think it might be 45 minutes.
Casey Wilson [00:49:03] In heels.
Listener [00:49:04] If that. And she does it immediately after getting her freedom from the guy that the money is stolen from. And right after he tells her that he just murdered Malcolm McDowell, like there’s no concern about this blowing back to her.
Casey Wilson [00:49:18] We can’t get into those details.
June Diane Raphael [00:49:20] Well, yeah.
Paul Scheer [00:49:21] I had a real question about that scene because they set up and maybe I’m wrong, but that’s the only time we see Phil Bosco in the whole movie.
Casey Wilson [00:49:29] It did feel like they gave him away of like, well, here she comes again. And you’re like, What have we seen him? Well.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:36] He’s been mentioned but not seen. This feels like a scene we missed.
Paul Scheer [00:49:39] But but this is a moment where she’s like, I’d like to have my freedom. And he goes, You’re good to go. And as she walks for the door and you want him to go into a full monologue, but if you go, let me tell you about your life. No, she just leaves. That’s it. Like that.
Casey Wilson [00:49:54] It’s pretty easy given that we’d been kind of running for the last 2 hours.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:58] The movie’s also such a delicate balance. If you get too deep in the weeds of the crime story, you really have to look at the harsh reality that these children are in abject horror. Like they are. They are on the precipice of disaster. So you really have two broad strokes, the crime story, so that you can get on board for the romance with the dad. The coming of age story.
Paul Scheer [00:50:23] One would argue, you don’t even need the crime story. It doesn’t do anything.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:29] Of course you do, Paul. Course you do.
June Diane Raphael [00:50:31] Paul.
June Diane Raphael [00:50:31] I think you need it. I think what happened. My what I was working with. No, I think what happened is that there probably was a different ending. There probably was something different that was going on with Johnny, the Pope or Jerry the pope. But and there were probably different stakes at the end. But I think what happened is they started filming and saw how good this little boy actor was.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:53] Incredible.
June Diane Raphael [00:50:54] How good Melanie is, how good Ed Harris is, what these scenes feel like, what they feel like. And I think they said, you know what? Fuck it. We want them to be together.
Casey Wilson [00:51:07] Who’s saying this?
June Diane Raphael [00:51:08] Them.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:10] All of us.
June Diane Raphael [00:51:11] All of them.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:12] Casey, Humanity.
Paul Scheer [00:51:15] So are you saying in the middle of the movie the directors like, we need to change the third act?
Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:20] Richard Benjamin’s like, You know what?
June Diane Raphael [00:51:21] I think so because it’s good. They are. They are walking such like such a fine line here of of how much we as an audience can take. And we also have to we also have to explore other characters. We’ve got Kevin’s dad and we’ve got this one and that one.
Paul Scheer [00:51:42] We don’t understand why Casey Siemaszko has a wine rack by the front door where you would put your keys. Why isn’t it in the kitchen? We got to go deeper on that character.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:52] Oh, I keep my wine in the foyer.
Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:57] All right, people, that is it. Please remember to rate and review the show. It helps. And if you listen on Apple Podcasts, make sure you are following us on that. You can visit us on social media @HDTGM. Remember, we are on tour. Just go to HDTGM.com to find our tickets, information, all that kind of stuff. And as we get closer, movies will be announced. It will be a different movie every single night. And if you want commercial free access to How Did This Get Made, our entire archive and so much more sign up for Stitcher Premium for a free one month trial. Use the code BONKERS. And also if you’ve not checked out Avril Halley’s Movie Bitches YouTube page, you are missing out, especially if you’re a RuPaul fan. We will see you next week for Hypnotic! Bye for now.
September 28, 2023
EP. 328.5 — Last Looks: Jonathan Livingston Seagull
Paul and Jason chat about reality TV, music they’re loving, and their favorite L.A. activities. Plus, Paul digs into corrections and omissions from Jonathan Livingston Seagull, shares bonus content from the live show, and reveals next week’s movie.